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Post by franklin on Feb 6, 2021 18:39:09 GMT
TP had one win in 14 and it cost him his job. I can't see MON lasting beyond the end of the season if this continues. I don't know what the issue is but he seems to have lost his positive effect on the squad. He'd also spent best part of 100m He did but its all relative he wasn't playing against the likes of Rotherham every week.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2021 18:40:50 GMT
TP had one win in 14 and it cost him his job. I can't see MON lasting beyond the end of the season if this continues. I don't know what the issue is but he seems to have lost his positive effect on the squad. I don’t think there’s any appetite whatsoever for that at the club or in the fanbase is there?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2021 18:41:35 GMT
He'd also spent best part of 100m In taking us from the bottom of our present division to promotion, establishment in the Prem, a cup final and rampaging through Europe. The greatest ever bargain in our history. Sacking TP was one of the greatest errors in our history alongside selling Stan and not insuring the ground properly. Had TP remained we would still be in the Prem and would probably have won one of the cups by now. Instead we gave Hughes silly money and he used it to oversee our decline and eventual relegation. That’s absolute nonsense and you know it.
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Post by pavel on Feb 6, 2021 18:42:13 GMT
10 points in 10 games, it's not fine margins, it's relegation form. Luckily we started the season reasonably well and got points on the board but there is no disguising the fact that our current form is shocking.
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Post by telfordstokie on Feb 6, 2021 18:43:36 GMT
At the start of the season, think most would have happily accepted a transition year where we’d hopefully finish in the top half for the first time since relegation and blood some youngsters into the side while making a start on getting rid of the huge amount of deadwood we’ve accumulated in the squad.
That’s basically what is happening - but must admit it’s hard to take right now when we’d made such a positive start and it’s slipping away week by week and game by game. Just need to scrape a win from somewhere; not expecting anything at Norwich but next two home games are golden opportunities to get back on track.
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Post by larrypotter on Feb 6, 2021 18:50:46 GMT
Fact is we overachieved earlier in the season and now those who expect instant success are getting frustrated. The legacy of Hughes, Rowett and Jones isn't going to be overturned in a few months. Live with it.
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Post by lancer on Feb 6, 2021 18:51:30 GMT
Take any group of 14 matches over the last couple of seasons and see how the results compare, and our position in the league. We know we are not winning enough games at present but that's because we can't get a goal scorer to replace Campbell, despite many supporters who think that MON doesn't realise what we need. By the way, we've just taken 4 points out of Reading,(who also couldn't score) who are looking good to be promoted.
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Post by palerider on Feb 6, 2021 19:00:36 GMT
Nathan jones territory,m.o.n has bought himself some time with last seasons heroics,I think we’ve just got “” manager out” fatigue
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Post by callas12 on Feb 6, 2021 19:26:22 GMT
There are some owners that would drop the axe at that form, if they had ambitions of reaching the premier league Very true, Bournemouth have done & their run wasn't as bad as ours is
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 6, 2021 19:30:15 GMT
There are some owners that would drop the axe at that form, if they had ambitions of reaching the premier league Very true, Bournemouth have done & their run wasn't as bad as ours is Apples and oranges though isn’t it?
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Feb 6, 2021 19:32:01 GMT
I'm grateful for him getting us out of the mire last season....but we can't keep forever being indebted to him because of it!!!
We finished 15th last season, and if we finish there or there abouts again this season, then we haven't progressed at all, even with the changes in playing staff!!!
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 6, 2021 19:32:29 GMT
Nathan jones territory,m.o.n has bought himself some time with last seasons heroics,I think we’ve just got “” manager out” fatigue Win, lose or draw we’ve been in every game of this bad run until the final minute. We all know the current issues but this is absolutely nothing like the garbage under Jones......
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 19:32:34 GMT
The more times you sack a manager, the more times you have to just start all over again. Each manager wants their own players etc. Unless he’s close to taking us down, I’d be amazed if he isn’t here in a couple of years.
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Post by wakeypotter on Feb 6, 2021 19:32:35 GMT
We played ok today against a top 6 team. Never really under threat and if Cousins header went in, completely different mood on here tonight. Fine margins and fickle fans. We’re not far away and still on the upward, despite the winless run given the injuries etc. Fickle!! Get a fucking grip man 1 win in 12 and playing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen
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Post by sd22 on Feb 6, 2021 19:35:21 GMT
Not calling for his head myself. Although that’s not to say I’m not fuming with recent performances.
If fans were allowed in, I fear he’d be gone by next week.
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 6, 2021 20:00:54 GMT
We are paying he price of the last 4 managers and we need to stream line the the massive wage bill and they board have brought MON inn with a plan and as long as we are in no danger of relegation over the next 2 seasons and as long as we are getting rid of the big earners the club will be patient.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 6, 2021 20:06:50 GMT
He should have recalled Afobe once Gregory had gone, not signing a striker is his biggest mistake.
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Post by stokemark on Feb 6, 2021 20:09:57 GMT
MONs biggest issue is that he may have the ability to grind out points to survive (hence his success at N Ireland) but he has zero experience / credentials of building a winning one.
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 6, 2021 20:10:05 GMT
He should have recalled Afobe once Gregory had gone, not signing a striker is his biggest mistake. Don't think we could of unless it was a condition of the loan.
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Post by Royal Donut on Feb 6, 2021 20:11:55 GMT
We played ok today against a top 6 team. Never really under threat and if Cousins header went in, completely different mood on here tonight. Fine margins and fickle fans. We’re not far away and still on the upward, despite the winless run given the injuries etc. Fickle!! Get a fucking grip man 1 win in 12 and playing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen Whats the answer,,, a new manager and what if he plays the same sack him also where does this all end. None of it matters anyway because the owners won't sack him, unlike the fickle fans.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 6, 2021 20:23:53 GMT
He should have recalled Afobe once Gregory had gone, not signing a striker is his biggest mistake. Don't think we could of unless it was a condition of the loan. Trabzonspor wanted to terminate his loan
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 6, 2021 20:24:05 GMT
You could also turn the stat round if your glass is half full and say we’ve only lost 2 league games in 12 since Campbell’s injury against Cardiff W1 D9 L2
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 6, 2021 20:25:27 GMT
Fickle!! Get a fucking grip man 1 win in 12 and playing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen Whats the answer,,, a new manager and what if he plays the same sack him also where does this all end. None of it matters anyway because the owners won't sack him, unlike the fickle fans. Sadly some fans can't see just what a predicament we find ourselves in, we have billionaire owners who can't put money and we are very close to facing fines and possible points deductions, we have 11 players out on loan and 70% of those cost us close to £40 million quid and are no where near the first team, we were lucky enough to off load Berahino and Imbula probably and huge cost to the club and are probably also paying a big cut of the wages.
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 6, 2021 20:27:20 GMT
Don't think we could of unless it was a condition of the loan. Trabzonspor wanted to terminate his loan Didn't know but why should we take him back unless it was in our best intersts?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2021 20:29:58 GMT
I am not at the stage of calling for MON head, but he has to start showing something, it’s just to comfortable playing for a draw when he doesn’t have the fans screaming for something to happen. 1 win in 14 in all competitions has seen plenty of managers shown the door, especially a team with ambitions of promotion, even if realistically that ambition is focused on next season. Everybody in the club new we had to replace Campbell, even recalling Afobi would have given us an option, this season now feels done, it’s just a trudge to 50 points until we go again, very very disappointing We're not plenty of whatever. We're SCFC owned by the Coates family, and apart from a few blips before and after relegation, they don't sack managers, even if other clubs would have. Do you really think MON's comfortable playing for a draw? I bet he's seething inside.
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Post by Squeekster on Feb 6, 2021 20:33:01 GMT
The reality is we could/should of won today, should of beat Cardiff should of at least got a point against Bournemouth so it's not like we haven't been in most if not all of the games.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 6, 2021 20:39:16 GMT
Question. How many of O'Neill's 7 signings (excluding this month's batch as we haven't seen enough of them) have actually improved us? Fletcher, Mikel, Thompson, Fox, Chester, Brown and TOB are the seven I refer to. Fletcher and Fox have been brilliant signings on free transfers. Chester and Mikel have made an OK contribution for free transfers- still positive signings all things considered. Thompson only cost about500k and is improving all the time. I think he's worth more than we paid for him and is a decent squad player. TOB- didn't cost much. young. a gamble. Not impressed so far but he's potentially one for the future. Brown- Looks like a waste of £1.5m to be honest. That's one bad signing out of seven with fuck all money. Two extremely positive, three positive, one neither here nor there.
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Post by Trouserdog on Feb 6, 2021 20:39:50 GMT
He should have recalled Afobe once Gregory had gone, not signing a striker is his biggest mistake. I'd rather play with 10 men.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 6, 2021 20:43:47 GMT
The only one that's going to be an issue and a stick to beat him with, is Brown. £2m (ish) in our state is big money, and he's not adding much.
All the others are ones he's used as stopgaps with money he found down the back of the settee.
A few hundred k for Thompson, free for TOB and peanuts as a wage, one-year deals for Chester and Mikel, Fox has been fine on a free, Fletcher class act
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Post by wrighter on Feb 6, 2021 20:54:08 GMT
makes me laugh some calling for MON to go [not me]
so look around, who would you have take over ? What managers are unemployed, more to the point, who would come ?
Lampard or Terry on their way to Bournemouth, what about Monk ? would you want that ?
Behave, this season we wont go up, and we wont go down
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