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Post by wannabee on Jun 18, 2024 0:55:23 GMT
Bonkers. He should bail even though there's no obvious alternative. He should have got out last year and let the voters pick. FFS. Still miles better than Trump. His administration has achieved a lot and if he's re-elected then things will be loads better for most people. But he's just so shit at political campaigning and marketing. Agreed. I think it’s ridiculous that there is a lower age limit but no upper limit to Presidency (and to call for one is “ageist”). This Presidency should have been all about grooming an obvious successor, yet the field of play looks worse for the DNC now than it did 4 years ago. At least the RNC has De Santis (who i very much dislike) and Haley who look ready to go for it when Trump dies. Did you say Trump, De Santis and grooming all in one sentence How did it ever get this bad? truthsocial.com/@realdonaldtrump/109825049366738123
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Post by elystokie on Jun 18, 2024 7:07:12 GMT
It's a crazy situation. He should cite 'personal reasons' now his son has been found guilty and call it a day before his senility hands the election to Trump. I've no idea who should replace him because I'm not au fait with US democratic contenders. I don't think Michelle Obama will take the job though. OS. Bonkers. He should bail even though there's no obvious alternative. He should have got out last year and let the voters pick. FFS. Still miles better than Trump. His administration has achieved a lot and if he's re-elected then things will be loads better for most people. But he's just so shit at political campaigning and marketing. One of the differences I perceive, possibly wrongly as I'm not that familiar with the situation, is that Biden has a team around him that work together. With Trump noone around him on his side will tell him anything he doesn't want to hear, I find that a terrifying prospect, baffles me that others don't 🤷
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jun 18, 2024 7:19:52 GMT
😂Incredible. What were the Democrats thinking putting him forward?!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jun 18, 2024 7:21:47 GMT
Bonkers. He should bail even though there's no obvious alternative. He should have got out last year and let the voters pick. FFS. Still miles better than Trump. His administration has achieved a lot and if he's re-elected then things will be loads better for most people. But he's just so shit at political campaigning and marketing. Agreed. I think it’s ridiculous that there is a lower age limit but no upper limit to Presidency (and to call for one is “ageist”). This Presidency should have been all about grooming an obvious successor, yet the field of play looks worse for the DNC now than it did 4 years ago. At least the RNC has De Santis (who i very much dislike) and Haley who look ready to go for it when Trump dies. Haley, absolute milf 😍😍
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 19, 2024 7:58:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2024 11:02:12 GMT
Agreed. I think it’s ridiculous that there is a lower age limit but no upper limit to Presidency (and to call for one is “ageist”). This Presidency should have been all about grooming an obvious successor, yet the field of play looks worse for the DNC now than it did 4 years ago. At least the RNC has De Santis (who i very much dislike) and Haley who look ready to go for it when Trump dies. Haley, absolute milf 😍😍 Little old for me but her daughter looks just like her.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 19, 2024 15:29:58 GMT
One of the differences I perceive, possibly wrongly as I'm not that familiar with the situation, is that Biden has a team around him that work together. With Trump noone around him on his side will tell him anything he doesn't want to hear, I find that a terrifying prospect, baffles me that others don't 🤷 My impression is that Biden's mind is still there, but he does have a team around him. The democrats under Biden are a team that tries to govern and make things better. The republicans under Trump are a cult of personality that want to install an effective dictatorship. Their job is to do what trump says and to glorify him for the cult. I still don't know what great things trump actually did or what amazing deals he supposedly negotiated, that weren't obviously gonna be done anyway. Every time I've asked his supporters have just kept telling me his branding and how it makes their emotions feel. Or coincidentally what happened, like how he was lucky to inherit the perfect part of the business cycle. With Biden you can actually point to many ways he's worked to make things better for the US. Whether it's consumer protections, limiting deficits, investing in the future, preventing corporate control of the internet etc.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jun 19, 2024 15:45:38 GMT
One of the differences I perceive, possibly wrongly as I'm not that familiar with the situation, is that Biden has a team around him that work together. With Trump noone around him on his side will tell him anything he doesn't want to hear, I find that a terrifying prospect, baffles me that others don't 🤷 My impression is that Biden's mind is still there, but he does have a team around him. The democrats under Biden are a team that tries to govern and make things better. The republicans under Trump are a cult of personality that want to install an effective dictatorship. Their job is to do what trump says and to glorify him for the cult. I still don't know what great things trump actually did or what amazing deals he supposedly negotiated, that weren't obviously gonna be done anyway. Every time I've asked his supporters have just kept telling me his branding and how it makes their emotions feel. Or coincidentally what happened, like how he was lucky to inherit the perfect part of the business cycle. With Biden you can actually point to many ways he's worked to make things better for the US. Whether it's consumer protections, limiting deficits, investing in the future, preventing corporate control of the internet etc. I'm getting the feeling a lot of people are getting more concerned about the 10m illegals that have crossed the Mexican border since he became president. That and the fact truck loads of fentanyl is also pouring through the border and causing chaos..
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Post by elystokie on Jun 19, 2024 15:53:35 GMT
One of the differences I perceive, possibly wrongly as I'm not that familiar with the situation, is that Biden has a team around him that work together. With Trump noone around him on his side will tell him anything he doesn't want to hear, I find that a terrifying prospect, baffles me that others don't 🤷 My impression is that Biden's mind is still there, but he does have a team around him. The democrats under Biden are a team that tries to govern and make things better. The republicans under Trump are a cult of personality that want to install an effective dictatorship. Their job is to do what trump says and to glorify him for the cult. I still don't know what great things trump actually did or what amazing deals he supposedly negotiated, that weren't obviously gonna be done anyway. Every time I've asked his supporters have just kept telling me his branding and how it makes their emotions feel. Or coincidentally what happened, like how he was lucky to inherit the perfect part of the business cycle. With Biden you can actually point to many ways he's worked to make things better for the US. Whether it's consumer protections, limiting deficits, investing in the future, preventing corporate control of the internet etc. He's also realised the emperor was naked all along and has done something about it, nowhere near enough, but more than any other president in 80 years.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 19, 2024 15:57:19 GMT
I'm getting the feeling a lot of people are getting more concerned about the 10m illegals that have crossed the Mexican border since he became president. That and the fact truck loads of fentanyl is also pouring through the border and causing chaos.. I guess since Republicans killed the border deal and made it clear they'll kill any border deal if the Democrats have any place in government, then the choice is needing a Democractic trifecta or a Republican one. I didn't go through the bill, so correct me if I'm wrong, but the Democratic offer seems to be to fund the enforcement of the border and the courts to process applications following the law. The Republican plan seems to be a police state to start kicking down doors, concentration camps, and we already know that they fucking love hurting families and intentionally committed a campaign of mass child abuse. Longer term the Democrats generally seem to support a more stable, wealthier future so there will be fewer immigrants. Republican policies seem designed to increase human suffering worldwide so that there will be more refugees. Which I think is politically sensible from them, they've shown that a steady supply of desperate refugees is really useful for their political campaigns and it'll be a great excuse to get people scared into giving up their rights so the Supreme Leader can do what he wants. Anyway... again I keep asking what Trump has actually done that was within his power, and compare with what Biden has actually done within his power and I never seem to get a detailed answer. I just don't like reacting with the feelings the media tells me to, and not looking into the details.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 19, 2024 16:06:25 GMT
My impression is that Biden's mind is still there, but he does have a team around him. The democrats under Biden are a team that tries to govern and make things better. The republicans under Trump are a cult of personality that want to install an effective dictatorship. Their job is to do what trump says and to glorify him for the cult. I still don't know what great things trump actually did or what amazing deals he supposedly negotiated, that weren't obviously gonna be done anyway. Every time I've asked his supporters have just kept telling me his branding and how it makes their emotions feel. Or coincidentally what happened, like how he was lucky to inherit the perfect part of the business cycle. With Biden you can actually point to many ways he's worked to make things better for the US. Whether it's consumer protections, limiting deficits, investing in the future, preventing corporate control of the internet etc. I'm getting the feeling a lot of people are getting more concerned about the 10m illegals that have crossed the Mexican border since he became president. That and the fact truck loads of fentanyl is also pouring through the border and causing chaos.. Maybe the Mexicans will be more accommodating and actually pay for the wall when he asks for the second time? 😀 They'd probably just tunnel under it anyway, I bet that border is riddled with tunnels.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jun 19, 2024 16:40:57 GMT
I'm getting the feeling a lot of people are getting more concerned about the 10m illegals that have crossed the Mexican border since he became president. That and the fact truck loads of fentanyl is also pouring through the border and causing chaos.. I guess since Republicans killed the border deal and made it clear they'll kill any border deal if the Democrats have any place in government, then the choice is needing a Democractic trifecta or a Republican one. I didn't go through the bill, so correct me if I'm wrong, but the Democratic offer seems to be to fund the enforcement of the border and the courts to process applications following the law. The Republican plan seems to be a police state to start kicking down doors, concentration camps, and we already know that they fucking love hurting families and intentionally committed a campaign of mass child abuse. Longer term the Democrats generally seem to support a more stable, wealthier future so there will be fewer immigrants. Republican policies seem designed to increase human suffering worldwide so that there will be more refugees. Which I think is politically sensible from them, they've shown that a steady supply of desperate refugees is really useful for their political campaigns and it'll be a great excuse to get people scared into giving up their rights so the Supreme Leader can do what he wants. Anyway... again I keep asking what Trump has actually done that was within his power, and compare with what Biden has actually done within his power and I never seem to get a detailed answer. I just don't like reacting with the feelings the media tells me to, and not looking into the details. What else was in the border bill that the republicans killed? Its never straightforward as you well know. But does allow you to simply state the border is not a Democrat problem because well we tried but those pesky republicans ruined it...Politics innit..
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 19, 2024 16:42:31 GMT
I'm getting the feeling a lot of people are getting more concerned about the 10m illegals that have crossed the Mexican border since he became president. That and the fact truck loads of fentanyl is also pouring through the border and causing chaos.. Also I think that a big part of disagreements is over whether the US political system is any good. Like, should there be checks and balances in the government and should the constitution be followed? Or should powers be stripped from Congress and rights be stripped from normal folk, so that a Supreme Leader can have more power? It seems like a lot of discussions about topics like immigration are kinda going at cross purposes, because Democratic arguments generally seem to assume that the constitution needs to be followed, people's rights need protecting and an all-powerful government is bad. Republican arguments push for a more dictatorship style, police state approach, with very little respect for checks and balances and the constitution. E.g. it's up to Congress to control the purse strings, so the Democrats approached it by negotiating with the Republicans to get a deal to fund border protection. MAGA House Republicans killed the bipartisan deal and are blaming Biden for the results of their own actions. Biden's now done an executive order that he delayed, and the delay makes me think he really didn't want to do it, because it's legally questionable and risks violating people's rights. However, there's always a tradeoff and the law does allow more extreme actions when there's considered to be a strong government interest in doing so (at least, that's what I've picked up from watching lawyers explain things. I really don't know law though). Republicans act like they don't care about checks and balances or the government infringing on people's rights, so they're arguing in a totally different way.
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Post by OldStokie on Jun 19, 2024 19:25:29 GMT
Saw on the news last night that many of the videos of Biden making errors have been doctored to make him look 10 times worse. It's getting to the stage where we can't believe anything we see or hear these days.
OS.
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 19, 2024 23:10:13 GMT
What else was in the border bill that the republicans killed? Its never straightforward as you well know. But does allow you to simply state the border is not a Democrat problem because well we tried but those pesky republicans ruined it...Politics innit.. Now that's a great question. Politicians often slip "poison pills" into a bill, and I didn't read this one but went on reporting where republicans said they agreed with the bill but then they killed it because Trump wanted the border to get worse so he could campaign on it.
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Post by elystokie on Jun 20, 2024 4:31:51 GMT
Saw on the news last night that many of the videos of Biden making errors have been doctored to make him look 10 times worse. It's getting to the stage where we can't believe anything we see or hear these days. OS. Tbh I've long suspected as much, been quite surprised how many have fully bought into it, very clever but some things didn't seem to add up 🤔 I'd take the '10 million Mexicans' with a very large dose of salt too, almost 10% of a population wanting to uproot from what's hardly a war torn country? But cult members must believe the cult leader 🤷
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Post by mtrstudent on Jun 20, 2024 4:50:44 GMT
Saw on the news last night that many of the videos of Biden making errors have been doctored to make him look 10 times worse. It's getting to the stage where we can't believe anything we see or hear these days. OS. Tbh I've long suspected as much, been quite surprised how many have fully bought into it, very clever but some things didn't seem to add up 🤔 I'd take the '10 million Mexicans' with a very large dose of salt too, almost 10% of a population wanting to uproot from what's hardly a war torn country? But cult members must believe the cult leader 🤷 There aren't 10 million Mexicans who've unlawfully crossed the border under Biden and are now living in the US. E.g. factcheck. It's another one of the propaganda lies, but a lot of people forget to fact check and just believe what they're told. 😢
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jun 20, 2024 21:49:35 GMT
What else was in the border bill that the republicans killed? Its never straightforward as you well know. But does allow you to simply state the border is not a Democrat problem because well we tried but those pesky republicans ruined it...Politics innit.. Now that's a great question. Politicians often slip "poison pills" into a bill, and I didn't read this one but went on reporting where republicans said they agreed with the bill but then they killed it because Trump wanted the border to get worse so he could campaign on it. Several Democrats voted against it. Who'd have thought..
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Post by salopstick on Jun 20, 2024 21:56:52 GMT
Every time I see this thread near the top I think what has senile grandad done now
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jun 20, 2024 22:01:16 GMT
Every time I see this thread near the top I think what has senile grandad done now Sexually assaulted an author, illegally paid a porn star to keep schtum about their sexual encounter, and probably hit on his daughter a few times.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2024 23:59:46 GMT
Now that's a great question. Politicians often slip "poison pills" into a bill, and I didn't read this one but went on reporting where republicans said they agreed with the bill but then they killed it because Trump wanted the border to get worse so he could campaign on it. Several Democrats voted against it. Who'd have thought.. I suppose that the difference is that Democrats don’t really run on a platform of immigration - Republicans do. Every political add on tv at present in Virginia centers around military or immigration. Yet, Republicans have neglected these very things just to spite the DNC.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Jul 5, 2024 20:21:30 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 5, 2024 20:36:42 GMT
Nothing surprises me about what this man says. America need Trump I’m afraid
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Post by SuperRickyFuller on Jul 5, 2024 20:42:00 GMT
I'm surprised he remembered he's up against Trump. Half expected him to say someone like Calvin Coolidge 😂 Genuinely feel sorry for the bloke, someone needs to get him to stand down and retire. He's far too old for this and is clearly struggling.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Jul 5, 2024 21:23:59 GMT
Every time I see this thread near the top I think what has senile grandad done now Sexually assaulted an author, illegally paid a porn star to keep schtum about their sexual encounter, and probably hit on his daughter a few times. It's one thing disliking Trump, I don't like him either. But baseless accusations he's tried to abuse his daughter is beyond the pale for me. How would you like that kind of shyte in your life.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 5, 2024 22:04:54 GMT
The narrative that videos of Biden frailties been cheap fake has been disproven. This man is unwell and cannot speak without a teleprompter
The other option is a 🤡
It looks to me like politics in the US has become ever increasingly polarised and dominated by the extremes.
Sane middle ground people don’t seem to attract funding.
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Post by Gods on Jul 5, 2024 22:14:59 GMT
The narrative that videos of Biden frailties been cheap fake has been disproven. This man is unwell and cannot speak without a teleprompter The other option is a 🤡 It looks to me like politics in the US has become ever increasingly polarised and dominated by the extremes. Sane middle ground people don’t seem to attract funding. I'm not sure about that. I think Biden is middle ground, the trouble is he doesn't know what day it is!
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 5, 2024 22:25:18 GMT
The narrative that videos of Biden frailties been cheap fake has been disproven. This man is unwell and cannot speak without a teleprompter The other option is a 🤡 It looks to me like politics in the US has become ever increasingly polarised and dominated by the extremes. Sane middle ground people don’t seem to attract funding. I'm not sure about that. I think Biden is middle ground, the trouble is he doesn't know what day it is! Think he was, think now he’s been hijacked by extreme left elements of his party
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Jul 5, 2024 22:56:28 GMT
Sexually assaulted an author, illegally paid a porn star to keep schtum about their sexual encounter, and probably hit on his daughter a few times. It's one thing disliking Trump, I don't like him either. But baseless accusations he's tried to abuse his daughter is beyond the pale for me. How would you like that kind of shyte in your life. It was a reference to the time when he said if she wasn't his daughter he would hit on her. But if you insist, I'll apologise to Trump for all the sleepless nights he's had because of my comment on an obscure football message board.
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 6, 2024 1:21:46 GMT
Currently American voters have a choice between a frail elderly man, possibly suffering memory loss and on the verge dementia, and a frail, obese elderly man who is clearly suffering from delusions of grandeur, who is a legally proven rapist, fraud and a convicted felon who owes hundreds of millions of dollars to those he has deliberately defrauded or maliciously and falsely defamed, who identified a woman he raped as his second wife, whilst claiming she was not his type, who hasn’t told the truth about anything for over 20 years, except for his feelings of lust for his own daughter.
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