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Post by caine on Jan 18, 2021 8:51:38 GMT
Exactly a half fit Joe Allen is tons better than Cousins! Cousins- tackling 7/10 Passing 2/10 Awareness 3/10 Flare 0.01/10 Flair? Why would flair come into judging Cousins? 😂 Cousins is a much better defensive midfielder. He’s a better tackler. Better at reading the game defensively. Better at holding shape. That’s what he does. We don’t need him to have flair. Just like we don’t Allen to have flair 😂 So you’d rather have Cousins than Allen starting and have no midfielders in the box as Mikel doesn’t get forward either! 🤣🤣🤣. Isn’t either a debate, a half fit Allen should be starting. Glad you ain’t the manger, problem now is scoring not conceding. Clearly I was taking the biscuit with the ratings for Cousin, as some of the ratings for Allen were baffling! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2021 8:57:29 GMT
Flair? Why would flair come into judging Cousins? 😂 Cousins is a much better defensive midfielder. He’s a better tackler. Better at reading the game defensively. Better at holding shape. That’s what he does. We don’t need him to have flair. Just like we don’t Allen to have flair 😂 So you’d rather have Cousins than Allen starting and have no midfielders in the box as Mikel doesn’t get forward either! 🤣🤣🤣. Isn’t either a debate, a half fit Allen should be starting. Glad you ain’t the manger, problem now is scoring not conceding. Clearly I was taking the biscuit with the ratings for Cousin, as some of the ratings for Allen were baffling! Cousins should be one of the first names on the team sheet. |
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Jan 18, 2021 9:03:24 GMT
So you’d rather have Cousins than Allen starting and have no midfielders in the box as Mikel doesn’t get forward either! 🤣🤣🤣. Isn’t either a debate, a half fit Allen should be starting. Glad you ain’t the manger, problem now is scoring not conceding. Clearly I was taking the biscuit with the ratings for Cousin, as some of the ratings for Allen were baffling! Cousins should be one of the first names on the team sheet. 100%, and he was playing well. I wasn’t one for the conspiracies regarding Allen having a “Must start every game” clause but the longer this goes on the more I’m starting to wonder. |
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Post by caine on Jan 18, 2021 9:05:01 GMT
So you’d rather have Cousins than Allen starting and have no midfielders in the box as Mikel doesn’t get forward either! 🤣🤣🤣. Isn’t either a debate, a half fit Allen should be starting. Glad you ain’t the manger, problem now is scoring not conceding. Clearly I was taking the biscuit with the ratings for Cousin, as some of the ratings for Allen were baffling! Cousins should be one of the first names on the team sheet. That’s your opinion and I could make a case for him coming on for Mikel as he is usually knackered after 60 minutes. But prefer us with Allen in the team. Takes the ball forward much better. You say we don’t need any flair but you can’t have 2 CMs who aren’t box to box. Allen and cousins maybe I wouldn’t mind that but not Cousins and Mikel. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2021 9:13:42 GMT
Cousins should be one of the first names on the team sheet. 100%, and he was playing well. I wasn’t one for the conspiracies regarding Allen having a “Must start every game” clause but the longer this goes on the more I’m starting to wonder. His use has been very perculiar especially with the manager saying he's got to be careful with how he uses him. The actions don't match the words. He's been thrown in pretty much straight away and played way more than he should have done. And he's been perfeclty ok but nothing has changed, it's no different to having Tymon there. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 18, 2021 9:22:59 GMT
Pass completion 8/10 Value 6/10 Team cohesion 7/10 Inspiration for younger players 9/10 Future coach and manager prospect 10/10 Why future coach? His discipline and tactical awareness is appalling. And also why does "future coach" help us away at Rotherham on a Tuesday night in January? |
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Post by slicko on Jan 18, 2021 11:41:31 GMT
Why future coach? His discipline and tactical awareness is appalling. And also why does "future coach" help us away at Rotherham on a Tuesday night in January? Every player has attributes beyond those originally quoted in the first post. Playing football well as a team depends on many factors, some on the periphery. Team success and cohesion may well be involve and include players such as Rory Delap who may be included for both their current ability and to ensure his future progression into a coaching role. Younger players may well want to emulate that. Alternatively consider the QPR/Hughes tenure where players were purchased on ability alone. But you probably knew that already. |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jan 18, 2021 15:23:09 GMT
 Determination 10/10 New hair 7/10 but he doesn't look like Joe Allen On balance 8/10 Off balance 4/10 Chuck Norris 5/10 Abdoulaye Faye 11/10 Just to confirm those ratings are out of 20? If so it's pretty much how I'd expect it a very average player who depends solely on work rate but a quick check at top right hand corner makes me come to the conclusion get fucking rid ASAP instead of setting up around him. Allen is one of Stoke's best-rated players in the game. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 15:45:51 GMT
Has been out for yonks - nowhere near match fit/sharp, but still our best player by far even running at about 60%. He and Campbell are possibly the only 2 players we have - who would make it into the squad of the top 6/7 teams in this division You're pissing in the wind on here mate. Most think Cousins is a better player! |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2021 16:04:27 GMT
Has been out for yonks - nowhere near match fit/sharp, but still our best player by far even running at about 60%. He and Campbell are possibly the only 2 players we have - who would make it into the squad of the top 6/7 teams in this division You're pissing in the wind on here mate. Most think Cousins is a better player! I don't think that's true. I think a lot of us think Cousins is better at his job in the team. He is. Allen is a better footballer but doesn't play for the team. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 18, 2021 16:10:16 GMT
Fitness box to box 9 out of 10 Tackling 5 out of 10 Creativity 2 out of 10 Passing 4 out of 10 Heading 2 out of 10 Positional sense 2 out of 10 Use of both feet 5 out of 10 What a player gives me goose bumps Liverpool must of seen something you don’t |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2021 16:15:58 GMT
Fitness box to box 9 out of 10 Tackling 5 out of 10 Creativity 2 out of 10 Passing 4 out of 10 Heading 2 out of 10 Positional sense 2 out of 10 Use of both feet 5 out of 10 What a player gives me goose bumps Liverpool must of seen something you don’t Tbf he played for them when they weren't that good and at a time that if we played them I'd expect to beat them at home and challenge for the result away. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 16:55:25 GMT
Fitness box to box 9 out of 10 Tackling 5 out of 10 Creativity 2 out of 10 Passing 4 out of 10 Heading 2 out of 10 Positional sense 2 out of 10 Use of both feet 5 out of 10 What a player gives me goose bumps Liverpool must of seen something you don’t The ability to sell him on because he wasn't good enough? |
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 18, 2021 16:57:01 GMT
Liverpool must of seen something you don’t Tbf he played for them when they weren't that good and at a time that if we played them I'd expect to beat them at home and challenge for the result away. Told you yday I’m not reading your posts 😂😂 |
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 18, 2021 16:59:16 GMT
Liverpool must of seen something you don’t The ability to sell him on because he wasn't good enough? That’s your opinion fair enough but he’s got that on his CV , I’d sooner trust Brendan Rodgers on his opinion of Joe |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 17:37:46 GMT
You're pissing in the wind on here mate. Most think Cousins is a better player! I don't think that's true. I think a lot of us think Cousins is better at his job in the team. He is. Allen is a better footballer but doesn't play for the team. I think like Powell he can be guilty of trying to do too much for the team. It is O'Neill's job to simplify his game and use his energy in the correct areas of the pitch. He should not be competing for a place in the team with Cousins because he isn't a DM he's a box to boxer. It should be Cousins or Mikel + Allen + A N other in a midfield three in my opinion. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 18, 2021 17:40:55 GMT
I don't think that's true. I think a lot of us think Cousins is better at his job in the team. He is. Allen is a better footballer but doesn't play for the team. I think like Powell he can be guilty of trying to do too much for the team. It is O'Neill's job to simplify his game and use his energy in the correct areas of the pitch. He should not be competing for a place in the team with Cousins because he isn't a DM he's a box to boxer. It should be Cousins or Mikel + Allen + A N other in a midfield three in my opinion. Cousins is the only DM we have imo. Mikel cannot do it. Agreed it shouldn’t be Cousins or Allen but it should be Cousins and another. At the moment anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 18:28:18 GMT
The ability to sell him on because he wasn't good enough? That’s your opinion fair enough but he’s got that on his CV , I’d sooner trust Brendan Rodgers on his opinion of Joe Rodgers' opinion is irrelevant really. We are on about his time at Stoke. Which for me coincides with our downfall. Coincidence? I think not. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 18, 2021 19:08:49 GMT
That’s your opinion fair enough but he’s got that on his CV , I’d sooner trust Brendan Rodgers on his opinion of Joe Rodgers' opinion is irrelevant really. We are on about his time at Stoke. Which for me coincides with our downfall. Coincidence? I think not. 😂😂 Give your head a wobble , thought we played 11 men not a 1 man team |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 19:33:59 GMT
Rodgers' opinion is irrelevant really. We are on about his time at Stoke. Which for me coincides with our downfall. Coincidence? I think not. 😂😂 Give your head a wobble , thought we played 11 men not a 1 man team We do, but one man can still contribute to a downfall of a team. |
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Post by dastokie on Jan 18, 2021 19:54:56 GMT
Fitness box to box 9 out of 10 Tackling 5 out of 10 Creativity 2 out of 10 Passing 4 out of 10 Heading 2 out of 10 Positional sense 2 out of 10 Use of both feet 5 out of 10 What a player gives me goose bumps Liverpool must of seen something you don’t Yes 12 million for him laughing all the way to the bank didn't take llong for them to offload |
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Post by dastokie on Jan 18, 2021 19:57:40 GMT
Seriously there are better ball players with the foot at Eugene Park and they use an egg shaped ball
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Post by dastokie on Jan 18, 2021 19:58:09 GMT
Seriously there are better ball players with the foot at Eugene Park and they use an egg shaped ball
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Post by potterpaul on Jan 18, 2021 20:14:28 GMT
Just to confirm those ratings are out of 20? If so it's pretty much how I'd expect it a very average player who depends solely on work rate but a quick check at top right hand corner makes me come to the conclusion get fucking rid ASAP instead of setting up around him. Allen is one of Stoke's best-rated players in the game. What we really need is a 'Rate Joe Allen's career with Stoke' thread |
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 18, 2021 20:25:49 GMT
Liverpool must of seen something you don’t Yes 12 million for him laughing all the way to the bank didn't take llong for them to offload Yes after 91 games for them 2012 -2016 he must have been really wank for Liverpool , 56 games for Wales 🏴 proper wank |
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Post by dastokie on Jan 18, 2021 22:02:50 GMT
Yes 12 million for him laughing all the way to the bank didn't take llong for them to offload Yes after 91 games for them 2012 -2016 he must have been really wank for Liverpool , 56 games for Wales 🏴 proper wank 91 games how many has sub |
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 18, 2021 22:38:49 GMT
I cant help but conflate his arrival with our Premier League downturn.
I also cant really see what he brings to the team tbh. As far as I'm concerned his reputation is mainly garnered via his playing in a Welsh team that was flattered via the presence of Gareth Bale and Aaron Ramsey ..** pause to wash my mouth out of the unpleasant taste that suddenly fills it.
I think we should sell him to free up our ffp position.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 19, 2021 9:18:37 GMT
Yes after 91 games for them 2012 -2016 he must have been really wank for Liverpool , 56 games for Wales 🏴 proper wank 91 games how many has sub 😭 |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Jan 19, 2021 17:10:48 GMT
Nearly 400 1st team appearances and 50 odd international caps......Been there, seen it, done it and got the T shirt.
Has had the trust of his managers/coaches throughout his career.
That’s fact
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2021 17:54:30 GMT
Comfortably our best midfielder. Anyone who says different is a dick. Fact  |
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