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Post by kezzaed on Jan 15, 2021 23:10:53 GMT
I dont know how Villa fans reacted but Grealish was villified by most people for what he did. I'm not suggesting McClean going to the gym is anywhere near as bad but we are in lockdown, there are rules we follow for good reasons. Ordinary people are shamed in the press for breaking rules so why should a high profile footballer get away with it? The club have done the right thing its just a shame some people want to excuse him. Its what hes posting on social media to thousands of followers thats the bigger issue than what he actually does in his spare time. No he wasn't, no one cares. He's had 2 or 3 England call up since. Yes there's rules to follow, but they're totally ridiculous in fairness. That's my point. He's getting vilified (on here) for training with 1 other person. Just what society has become and what the government want. Bgreen 13, The government have allowed elite sport, but what we have now is rising covid death cases with the Premier League and EFL looking closely at the rising cases of covid in football which is being driven by the breaching of covid regs by players. Jose has spoken out for players to behave, Allardyce has called for the Government to step in cus he wants the season ending to prevent his team being relegated and tonight the Premier League chairman says they will step in and take sanctions. Just one area is players kissing and cuddling after scoring. James McClean has allegedly breached covid regs along with a whole host of other players who possibly have little regard for the regs or anything bar else themselves. This covid prevalence in football has gone beyond The oatcake fanzine opinions or views in relation to James McClean. The Premier league will probably settle the wider covid issues in football, with the teams near relegation having their part to play by shouting the loudest before time runs out on completing the season which would include lower leagues. James McClean only adds to the evidence of fans who are frustrated by players action with more games being postponed.
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Post by bgreen13 on Jan 15, 2021 23:15:33 GMT
No he wasn't, no one cares. He's had 2 or 3 England call up since. Yes there's rules to follow, but they're totally ridiculous in fairness. That's my point. He's getting vilified (on here) for training with 1 other person. Just what society has become and what the government want. Bgreen 13, The government have allowed elite sport, but what we have now is rising covid death cases with the Premier League and EFL looking closely at the rising cases of covid in football which is being driven by the breaching of covid regs by players. Jose has spoken out for players to behave, Allardyce has called for the Government to step in cus he wants the season ending to prevent his team being relegated and tonight the Premier League chairman says they will step in and take sanctions. Just one area is players kissing and cuddling after scoring. James McClean has allegedly breached covid regs along with a whole host of other players who possibly have little regard for the regs or anything bar else themselves. This covid prevalence in football has gone beyond The oatcake fanzine opinions or views in relation to James McClean. The Premier league will probably settle the wider covid issues in football, with the teams near relegation having their part to play by shouting the loudest before time runs out on completing the season which would include lower leagues. James McClean only adds to the evidence of fans who are frustrated by players action with more games being postponed. I get all you are saying and have said he can't argue with anything thats coming his way (if he's found out that he's broken teh rules). But my point is that if it was anyone else other than mcclean there would've been 2 pages max.
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Post by a on Jan 15, 2021 23:23:09 GMT
Bgreen 13, The government have allowed elite sport, but what we have now is rising covid death cases with the Premier League and EFL looking closely at the rising cases of covid in football which is being driven by the breaching of covid regs by players. Jose has spoken out for players to behave, Allardyce has called for the Government to step in cus he wants the season ending to prevent his team being relegated and tonight the Premier League chairman says they will step in and take sanctions. Just one area is players kissing and cuddling after scoring. James McClean has allegedly breached covid regs along with a whole host of other players who possibly have little regard for the regs or anything bar else themselves. This covid prevalence in football has gone beyond The oatcake fanzine opinions or views in relation to James McClean. The Premier league will probably settle the wider covid issues in football, with the teams near relegation having their part to play by shouting the loudest before time runs out on completing the season which would include lower leagues. James McClean only adds to the evidence of fans who are frustrated by players action with more games being postponed. I get all you are saying and have said he can't argue with anything thats coming his way (if he's found out that he's broken teh rules). But my point is that if it was anyone else other than mcclean there would've been 2 pages max. Absolutely. People couldn’t wait to stick the boot in on McLean because he’s not a brilliant player. He should be sanctioned if found to be in breach and that should be that. Instead though we’ve got a mob baying for blood.
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 15, 2021 23:32:34 GMT
As much as I want him gone from this club Thing is with its is that it sets a precedent, say Tyrese Campbell does it, should we fuck him off? Comparisons to the Derby crash keogh incident. The Moral Maze of Football If you're any good or you've got value you can do anything and be forgiven in football.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 7:26:19 GMT
Bgreen 13, The government have allowed elite sport, but what we have now is rising covid death cases with the Premier League and EFL looking closely at the rising cases of covid in football which is being driven by the breaching of covid regs by players. Jose has spoken out for players to behave, Allardyce has called for the Government to step in cus he wants the season ending to prevent his team being relegated and tonight the Premier League chairman says they will step in and take sanctions. Just one area is players kissing and cuddling after scoring. James McClean has allegedly breached covid regs along with a whole host of other players who possibly have little regard for the regs or anything bar else themselves. This covid prevalence in football has gone beyond The oatcake fanzine opinions or views in relation to James McClean. The Premier league will probably settle the wider covid issues in football, with the teams near relegation having their part to play by shouting the loudest before time runs out on completing the season which would include lower leagues. James McClean only adds to the evidence of fans who are frustrated by players action with more games being postponed. I get all you are saying and have said he can't argue with anything thats coming his way (if he's found out that he's broken teh rules). But my point is that if it was anyone else other than mcclean there would've been 2 pages max. Theres a lot of comments from people defending him because they like him or feel sorry for him. Do you honestly think if Vokes had done something similar (not going to the gym obviously) it would be 2 pages? I guarantee it would be a lot more and no one would be sticking up for him. Ive got a lot of sympathy for McClean with the poppy related abuse he gets but this is another matter and he has got form when it comes to stupid social media posts
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 16, 2021 7:50:49 GMT
McClean is certainly a controversial character, and I can understand some of his views based on his background, but still he seems to be the one making those stupid things over and over again. It's never the big things, but he has a habit of making the wrong decisions, not only on the pitch! Ballotelli once wore a T-shirt with "Why always me", and I honestly think McClean should ask himself this question. I will never accept threats against him or his family because of his political views, but he must take the rap when he does something stupid.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jan 16, 2021 9:04:43 GMT
James McClean has certainly acted foolishly but I don’t agree with all the vitriol he gets. Don't forget he was player of the season last season, I believe this was because of his resurgence which was instrumental in our survival after MON arrived.
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Post by skelman on Jan 16, 2021 10:27:34 GMT
In the great scheme of things his latest transgression in itself is pretty trivial and as much as I want to I can't spew the bile. However it is another example of his complete fuckwittery and the day of his departure from this club wont come a day too soon. Disagree with you numpty. Oh and here's one of many examples of his alleged complete fuckwittery. JAMES McCLEAN has run 52 miles across two days in memory of a Derry-based coach who passed away last month aged just 31. The Stoke winger completed the Navy Seals-inspired challenge which involves running four miles every four hours over 48 hours to honour Thomas Burke. McClean also paid tribute by deciding to donate £10 for every mile he completed, which will go towards buying a new kit for the U5s team that the much-loved Burke used to coach.
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Post by gaznandi on Jan 16, 2021 11:14:16 GMT
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Post by ab61 on Jan 16, 2021 11:19:12 GMT
Shit happens. Move on.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 11:22:32 GMT
I think its been handled well by the club. Lets hope McClean learns from his mistake this time and is more careful about what he posts on social media.
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Post by liathroid on Jan 16, 2021 12:05:40 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 16, 2021 12:20:14 GMT
In the great scheme of things his latest transgression in itself is pretty trivial and as much as I want to I can't spew the bile. However it is another example of his complete fuckwittery and the day of his departure from this club wont come a day too soon. Disagree with you numpty. Oh and here's one of many examples of his alleged complete fuckwittery. JAMES McCLEAN has run 52 miles across two days in memory of a Derry-based coach who passed away last month aged just 31. The Stoke winger completed the Navy Seals-inspired challenge which involves running four miles every four hours over 48 hours to honour Thomas Burke. McClean also paid tribute by deciding to donate £10 for every mile he completed, which will go towards buying a new kit for the U5s team that the much-loved Burke used to coach. I'd be surprised if there is a footballer in our squad who donates more generously to charities including the Donna Louise Trust who have singled him out (along with Joe Allen) for especially generous donations. He's also purchased a significant amount of equipment for frontline health workers, sponsoring significant amounts of dinners for homeless at Xmas etc, etc... might be useful to consider before throwing him to the lions.
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Post by nottsover60 on Jan 16, 2021 12:23:22 GMT
Bgreen 13, The government have allowed elite sport, but what we have now is rising covid death cases with the Premier League and EFL looking closely at the rising cases of covid in football which is being driven by the breaching of covid regs by players. Jose has spoken out for players to behave, Allardyce has called for the Government to step in cus he wants the season ending to prevent his team being relegated and tonight the Premier League chairman says they will step in and take sanctions. Just one area is players kissing and cuddling after scoring. James McClean has allegedly breached covid regs along with a whole host of other players who possibly have little regard for the regs or anything bar else themselves. This covid prevalence in football has gone beyond The oatcake fanzine opinions or views in relation to James McClean. The Premier league will probably settle the wider covid issues in football, with the teams near relegation having their part to play by shouting the loudest before time runs out on completing the season which would include lower leagues. James McClean only adds to the evidence of fans who are frustrated by players action with more games being postponed. I get all you are saying and have said he can't argue with anything thats coming his way (if he's found out that he's broken teh rules). But my point is that if it was anyone else other than mcclean there would've been 2 pages max. In all honesty it could only have been McLean in that squad. I bet 99% of fans like him or not if asked to guess which Stoke player had allegedly broken covid rules and posted his breach on Instagram would have got it right. That's the point. He doesn't help himself and I sometimes think he must enjoy playing the victim.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2021 12:28:18 GMT
Disagree with you numpty. Oh and here's one of many examples of his alleged complete fuckwittery. JAMES McCLEAN has run 52 miles across two days in memory of a Derry-based coach who passed away last month aged just 31. The Stoke winger completed the Navy Seals-inspired challenge which involves running four miles every four hours over 48 hours to honour Thomas Burke. McClean also paid tribute by deciding to donate £10 for every mile he completed, which will go towards buying a new kit for the U5s team that the much-loved Burke used to coach. I'd be surprised if there is a footballer in our squad who donates more generously to charities including the Donna Louise Trust who have singled him out (along with Joe Allen) for especially generous donations. He's also purchased a significant amount of equipment for frontline health workers, sponsoring significant amounts of dinners for homeless at Xmas etc, etc... might be useful to consider before throwing him to the lions. Thats all very good but it doesnt excuse him. Pulis did a lot more for charity and look at the abuse he used to get.
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 16, 2021 12:35:01 GMT
I'd be surprised if there is a footballer in our squad who donates more generously to charities including the Donna Louise Trust who have singled him out (along with Joe Allen) for especially generous donations. He's also purchased a significant amount of equipment for frontline health workers, sponsoring significant amounts of dinners for homeless at Xmas etc, etc... might be useful to consider before throwing him to the lions. Thats all very good but it doesnt excuse him. Pulis did a lot more for charity and look at the abuse he used to get. I wasn't suggesting it excuses anything. I'm just trying to add some sense of balance amidst the hysteria, and to add balance to the narrative that he ONLY brings negativity to the club.
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Post by skemstokie on Jan 16, 2021 12:47:42 GMT
James McClean has certainly acted foolishly but I don’t agree with all the vitriol he gets. Don't forget he was player of the season last season, I believe this was because of his resurgence which was instrumental in our survival after MON arrived. I am a afraid a lot on this board allow no credit for past achievements. Shawcross is a good example,he has been a loyal servant for many years but many have wanted to bin him off forgetting all the times he has stuck his body in the way of goal-bound shots. McClean has not been here so long but i think he has shown commitment here as he has at previous clubs,he has admitted he was in the wrong accepted his punishment and it should now be over.
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