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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 12, 2021 10:10:06 GMT
Wonder what Wilder's explanation for recalling him and just switching Champ loan clubs will be? He's getting loads of minutes in the same division.
Unless there is a buy option, which seems unlikely in the circumstances
Once Fox is back, who knows if he'll still get those minutes here?
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Post by moon on Jan 12, 2021 10:12:16 GMT
Bizarre if it's only a loan, especially when there is no guarantee he gets minutes on the pitch once Fox is back! but if he joins I'm not complaining, any competent LB will do for now, it would be great if it's with a view to a permanent deal.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2021 10:12:17 GMT
What’s in it for Sheffield United to recall him from Luton only to then send him straight back out to us? Some kind of swap deal in the offing?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 12, 2021 10:14:57 GMT
What’s in it for Sheffield United to recall him from Luton only to then send him straight back out to us? Some kind of swap deal in the offing? Doesn't seem to make any sense - there seems to be a missing piece of the puzzle we're not privy to? Suppose theoretically it's better for him to play for a team towards the top, but don't know if that's worth pulling a fast one on Luton, especially when he's playing most weeks, something he may not do once Fox is back
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 12, 2021 10:15:43 GMT
What’s in it for Sheffield United to recall him from Luton only to then send him straight back out to us? Some kind of swap deal in the offing? Doesn't seem to make any sense - there seems to be a missing piece of the puzzle we're not privy to? Suppose theoretically it's better for him to play for a team towards the top, but don't know if that's worth pulling a fast one on Luton, especially when he's playing most weeks, something he may not do once Fox is back Maybe the player has pushed for it and we're paying a higher % share of his wage?
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 12, 2021 10:16:53 GMT
Doesn't seem to make any sense - there seems to be a missing piece of the puzzle we're not privy to? Suppose theoretically it's better for him to play for a team towards the top, but don't know if that's worth pulling a fast one on Luton, especially when he's playing most weeks, something he may not do once Fox is back Maybe the player has pushed for it and we're paying a higher % share of his wage? Maybe - but he won't be on big money, will he? In Prem terms , it'll be peanuts. Definitely seems to be just a loan
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Post by upthefud on Jan 12, 2021 10:19:40 GMT
Attacking the loan market is a good sign.
Shows we’re committed to making a promotion push this year.
No point loaning players if we’d be content with a top half finish
Hopefully we can insert a to buy clause
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Post by telfordstokie on Jan 12, 2021 10:20:47 GMT
God willing, this is pretty funny.
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Post by mowlee on Jan 12, 2021 10:21:15 GMT
Must be a option too buy otherwise would of stayed at Luton
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 12, 2021 10:22:28 GMT
Suppose it may come down, as Prestwich says, to what the player wants.
There's a loan release clause, and he's keen to exploit it to move to Stoke, somewhere he'd prefer to be?
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Post by ethers26 on Jan 12, 2021 10:23:12 GMT
This is hilarious
But I wonder if it's a tactical move for Wilder?
They play similar defensive systems to us don't they?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 12, 2021 10:23:51 GMT
Doesn't seem to make any sense - there seems to be a missing piece of the puzzle we're not privy to? Suppose theoretically it's better for him to play for a team towards the top, but don't know if that's worth pulling a fast one on Luton, especially when he's playing most weeks, something he may not do once Fox is back Maybe the player has pushed for it and we're paying a higher % share of his wage? Plus he's a full back in a Jones team, he's probably absolutely shagged...
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 12, 2021 10:24:25 GMT
This is hilarious But I wonder if it's a tactical move for Wilder? They play similar defensive systems to us don't they? Not really, can't say I've noticed Harry Souttar bombing on past the wingers...
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 12, 2021 10:24:55 GMT
Yeah - that is interesting. Sounds like Wilder has shafted Nath over the weekend, and he's had to recall him as cover. Ouch I have a feeling some of that respect has just been flushed down the toilet! Though saying that, Nath was a bit naive to think he’d be there all season if the recall option remained in the agreement.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 12, 2021 10:25:38 GMT
And if he's a Welsh international then there's no better place to be?
Think it makes absolute sense from our pov though.
We're buying (probably) a player than can cover there but he's coming in the summer so we loan this guy now.
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Post by Championship Potter on Jan 12, 2021 10:26:00 GMT
Very confusing all round. Perhaps we’ve offered to pay a loan fee or a bigger chunk of his wages? Seems odd to ruffle Luton up for the sake of a tiny loan fee though.
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Post by clintonbaptiste on Jan 12, 2021 10:26:26 GMT
He obviously decided to fuck Luton off for his dream to play alongside wee uncle Joe. As long as it boils Nathan Jones' piss, then who cares
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Post by ethers26 on Jan 12, 2021 10:26:39 GMT
This is hilarious But I wonder if it's a tactical move for Wilder? They play similar defensive systems to us don't they? Not really, can't say I've noticed Harry Souttar bombing on past the wingers... I thought they'd stopped that given their injuries But I meant defensive systems
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Post by neddy on Jan 12, 2021 10:27:41 GMT
Suppose it may come down, as Prestwich says, to what the player wants. There's a loan release clause, and he's keen to exploit it to move to Stoke, somewhere he'd prefer to be? Close to home?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 10:28:11 GMT
Some press suggesting permanent deal to us.
Is he a fullback or more of a wingback?
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2021 10:30:20 GMT
What’s in it for Sheffield United to recall him from Luton only to then send him straight back out to us? Some kind of swap deal in the offing? Doesn't seem to make any sense - there seems to be a missing piece of the puzzle we're not privy to? Suppose theoretically it's better for him to play for a team towards the top, but don't know if that's worth pulling a fast one on Luton, especially when he's playing most weeks, something he may not do once Fox is back Would they want one of our players? Ince?
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 12, 2021 10:30:30 GMT
Sorry Jones, your boy is leaving to join a bigger club and you know all about that. With that in mind you can't really complain, as it would make you a massive hypocrite.
All the best Nath.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 12, 2021 10:32:43 GMT
Not really, can't say I've noticed Harry Souttar bombing on past the wingers... I thought they'd stopped that given their injuries But I meant defensive systems I'm not sure to be honest, are they? What are the similarities? I know they play a 3-5-2 but I hadn't noticed any similarities either way between how they play and we play?
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Post by potterburt on Jan 12, 2021 10:39:28 GMT
I could see Wilder and ONeil going for a pint as mates and purposely forgetting to invite little Jones, who happens past the window and see’s them which leads to Nath pacing up and down outside biting his fingernails muttering ‘who needs friend anyway, god’s my mate’
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Post by moon on Jan 12, 2021 10:40:03 GMT
I thought they'd stopped that given their injuries But I meant defensive systems I'm not sure to be honest, are they? What are the similarities? I know they play a 3-5-2 but I hadn't noticed any similarities either way between how they play and we play? 3..5........2 points all season, seems that god awful formation isn’t working for them either, the sooner we drop that system the better, hopefully this lad enables us to play a back 4 again.
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Post by shakermaker on Jan 12, 2021 10:42:13 GMT
Maybe the player has pushed for it and we're paying a higher % share of his wage? Plus he's a full back in a Jones team, he's probably absolutely shagged... What with losing out on Justin when he managed us, getting rid of Pieters when we had a left-back crisis, the disastrous policy of playing McClean as a LWB and now losing RND at Luton, the position of left-back appears to be defining NJ’s management career!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 12, 2021 10:43:40 GMT
Suppose it may come down, as Prestwich says, to what the player wants. There's a loan release clause, and he's keen to exploit it to move to Stoke, somewhere he'd prefer to be? Close to home? This is more likely to be the case I'd imagine. I learnt something new from a player a little while ago that when a player moves so far away from home, particularly on loan to a club like Luton, they often end up staying in a hotel, paid for themselves rather than the loaning club. I would never have imagined that to be the case. Living in a hotel in current times can't be much fun, if indeed he is, so if he does happen to be able to live at home and either reduce his commute by 2 hours a day or end his days of staying in a hotel, maybe that is all the incentive the kid needs to move? EDIT - to give some context, the player who was living in the North West had the opportunity to join Ipswich Town on loan this season. He basically said he would be playing for nothing once his expenses were taken into account.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jan 12, 2021 10:46:15 GMT
This is more likely to be the case I'd imagine. I learnt something new from a player a little while ago that when a player moves so far away from home, particularly on loan to a club like Luton, they often end up staying in a hotel, paid for themselves rather than the loaning club. I would never have imagined that to be the case. Living in a hotel in current times can't be much fun, if indeed he is, so if he does happen to be able to live at home and either reduce his commute by 2 hours a day or end his days of staying in a hotel, maybe that is all the incentive the kid needs to move? I’d say that would incentivise most people.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 10:50:52 GMT
Sorry Jones, your boy is leaving to join a bigger club and you know all about that. With that in mind you can't really complain, as it would make you a massive hypocrite. All the best Nath. I fully agree that we’re a bigger club. Bizarrely, when Jones first arrived, I got the impression the Luton faithful didn’t... It would be like us getting annoyed at MON for “sideways move” if Solksjaer gets the sack and MON takes over.
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Post by potterburt on Jan 12, 2021 10:58:22 GMT
This is more likely to be the case I'd imagine. I learnt something new from a player a little while ago that when a player moves so far away from home, particularly on loan to a club like Luton, they often end up staying in a hotel, paid for themselves rather than the loaning club. I would never have imagined that to be the case. Living in a hotel in current times can't be much fun, if indeed he is, so if he does happen to be able to live at home and either reduce his commute by 2 hours a day or end his days of staying in a hotel, maybe that is all the incentive the kid needs to move? I wonder if there’s going to be a quite a few instances of young loanees in odd accomodation situs and with it looking like a lock down until close to the season maybe quite a few are pushing and putting pressure on agents/parent clubs for finding better living situations which might mean a change of club?
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