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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 12, 2021 21:17:30 GMT
All of our best attacking performances under O'Neill have come with 4-3-3, starting with the big win away at Huddersfield. The problem is that Campbell's performances as the wide right forward were key to its success. Maybe this signing, plus Doughty, could go some way to helping with that.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2021 21:17:45 GMT
Some mard arses on here tonight. We’ve been crying out for a left back so we can banish this wretched 5-3-2 system once and for all. Now we are moving away from that we’ve got folk moaning about us playing 4-3-3. You couldn’t make it up. They're moaning because we tried it before and it was dog shit, we all know as it stands even with the new signings 4-2-3-1 is what suits them. And its not a 4-3-3 with MON it's 4-5-1. What shite. This is another good signing in what’s so far been a decent window.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 12, 2021 21:22:10 GMT
Certain people are anti O'Neill. Ever since he quit Ireland for good and COMMITTED himself to Stoke City.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 12, 2021 21:23:47 GMT
Manager assembling his squad, bringing in strong options for what will be a tough grind for the rest of the season. Typically morons know better. Its a board for discussion and speculation and guess what, people are speculating and discussing.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 12, 2021 21:24:37 GMT
They're moaning because we tried it before and it was dog shit, we all know as it stands even with the new signings 4-2-3-1 is what suits them. And its not a 4-3-3 with MON it's 4-5-1. What shite. This is another good signing in what’s so far been a decent window. I agree it'll be a good signing, I didn't mention him being a bad one did I?
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 12, 2021 21:26:02 GMT
Certain people are anti O'Neill. Ever since he quit Ireland for good and COMMITTED himself to Stoke City. To be fair those certain people often appear anti everything. I’m not sure some of them will ever be happy.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2021 21:31:30 GMT
What shite. This is another good signing in what’s so far been a decent window. I agree it'll be a good signing, I didn't mention him being a bad one did I? No but you are dissecting and over analysing the merits of two very similar systems. Purring over the virtues of 4231, whilst condemning 433 as shite.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2021 21:32:44 GMT
Certain people are anti O'Neill. Ever since he quit Ireland for good and COMMITTED himself to Stoke City. I’m afraid there are several posters here who simply do not deserve a good manager in charge of our club. Shame.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 12, 2021 21:32:54 GMT
Certain people are anti O'Neill. Ever since he quit Ireland for good and COMMITTED himself to Stoke City. To be fair those certain people often appear anti everything. I’m not sure some of them will ever be happy. If you read my posts you'll see I very rarely criticise the manager, I think he's doing a great job and wouldn't swap him for anyone at the moment. That doesn't mean you can't question the odd decision here and there.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 12, 2021 21:38:05 GMT
I agree it'll be a good signing, I didn't mention him being a bad one did I? No but you are dissecting and over analysing the merits of two very similar systems. Purring over the virtues of 4231, whilst condemning 433 as shite. They aren't the same, one works one doesn't with this squad.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 12, 2021 21:39:22 GMT
Certain people are anti O'Neill. Ever since he quit Ireland for good and COMMITTED himself to Stoke City. And certain people think he's the second coming and does nothing wrong.
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Post by ethers26 on Jan 12, 2021 21:42:56 GMT
Certain people are anti O'Neill. Ever since he quit Ireland for good and COMMITTED himself to Stoke City. And certain people think he's the second coming and does nothing wrong. No, they just support their club
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2021 21:48:31 GMT
No but you are dissecting and over analysing the merits of two very similar systems. Purring over the virtues of 4231, whilst condemning 433 as shite. They aren't the same, one works one doesn't with this squad. The squad is changing dramatically. It will be unrecognisable this time next year.
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Post by bgreen13 on Jan 12, 2021 21:51:55 GMT
They aren't the same, one works one doesn't with this squad. The squad is changing dramatically. It will be unrecognisable this time next year. It was never going to change overnight. O'neill was a victim of his own success for some. Others are just used to being negative I think.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 12, 2021 21:52:00 GMT
They aren't the same, one works one doesn't with this squad. The squad is changing dramatically. It will be unrecognisable this time next year. Then play 433 when that happens, why do it now when you've not got the players to implement it properly?
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Post by bgreen13 on Jan 12, 2021 21:54:06 GMT
The squad is changing dramatically. It will be unrecognisable this time next year. Then play 433 when that happens, why do it now when you've not got the players to implement it properly? Who said he won't? It's all conjecture that he's going to do it now.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 12, 2021 21:56:11 GMT
Then play 433 when that happens, why do it now when you've not got the players to implement it properly? Who said he won't? It's all conjecture that he's going to do it now. They play 433 at Crewe BTW but they've got the players to do it properly ;-)
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Post by bgreen13 on Jan 12, 2021 21:58:20 GMT
Who said he won't? It's all conjecture that he's going to do it now. They play 433 at Crewe BTW but they've got the players to do it properly ;-) And they're still midtable league 1 fodder 😊
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 21:59:24 GMT
No but you are dissecting and over analysing the merits of two very similar systems. Purring over the virtues of 4231, whilst condemning 433 as shite. They aren't the same, one works one doesn't with this squad. The squad is changing though, that's the point. Two attacking fullbacks could make all the difference whichever system we play.
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2021 22:02:52 GMT
The squad is changing dramatically. It will be unrecognisable this time next year. Then play 433 when that happens, why do it now when you've not got the players to implement it properly? I think we have?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 12, 2021 22:04:52 GMT
They play 433 at Crewe BTW but they've got the players to do it properly ;-) And they're still midtable league 1 fodder 😊 Same position as us, just 2 points away from play offs after getting promoted last season.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 12, 2021 22:06:07 GMT
And certain people think he's the second coming and does nothing wrong. No, they just support their club Everyone on here supports the club, it would be stupid to think other wise, some just realise that discussing on here essentially means fuck all as long as they back the team come match day once they get inside the stadium.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 12, 2021 22:09:02 GMT
Then play 433 when that happens, why do it now when you've not got the players to implement it properly? I think we have? Who would your front three be and who would your midfield be? I still can't see that we have the players to make it work, it needs legs in the middle for me and they either aren't fit or in most cases don't have the legs anyway.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 12, 2021 22:11:46 GMT
Then play 433 when that happens, why do it now when you've not got the players to implement it properly? I think we have? Let's see how you'd do it...
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2021 22:14:51 GMT
Who would your front three be and who would your midfield be? I still can't see that we have the players to make it work, it needs legs in the middle for me and they either aren't fit or in most cases don't have the legs anyway. As it currently stands with injuries? Allen....Cousins....Clucas Brown..Powell...Rabbi
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jan 12, 2021 22:18:56 GMT
Who would your front three be and who would your midfield be? I still can't see that we have the players to make it work, it needs legs in the middle for me and they either aren't fit or in most cases don't have the legs anyway. As it currently stands with injuries? Allen....Cousins....Clucas Brown..Powell...Rabbi See to me that just looks awful, if you're thinking more a 5-1 its okay but two of your front three aren't suited imo and with Allen in the mid three we'll get over run/pushed back too easily to cover him. Each to their own but that looks like a lot of square pegs in round holes to me.
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 12, 2021 22:21:03 GMT
Certain people are anti O'Neill. Ever since he quit Ireland for good and COMMITTED himself to Stoke City. To be fair those certain people often appear anti everything. I’m not sure some of them will ever be happy. And they seem happier when things are going badly rather than well.
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Post by wilcopotter on Jan 12, 2021 22:23:49 GMT
They play 433 at Crewe BTW but they've got the players to do it properly ;-) And they're still midtable league 1 fodder 😊 And he could go and watch them, if we were allowed in grounds😉
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Post by mickstupp on Jan 12, 2021 22:27:38 GMT
As it currently stands with injuries? Allen....Cousins....Clucas Brown..Powell...Rabbi See to me that just looks awful, if you're thinking more a 5-1 its okay but two of your front three aren't suited imo and with Allen in the mid three we'll get over run/pushed back too easily to cover him. Each to their own but that looks like a lot of square pegs in round holes to me. And how would those issues in the front three be any different in a 4231?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2021 22:31:54 GMT
As it currently stands with injuries? Allen....Cousins....Clucas Brown..Powell...Rabbi See to me that just looks awful, if you're thinking more a 5-1 its okay but two of your front three aren't suited imo and with Allen in the mid three we'll get over run/pushed back too easily to cover him. Each to their own but that looks like a lot of square pegs in round holes to me. We are far more likely to get over run with two sitting midfielders who can't pick a pass. That's the problem with 4231 we don't have a quality ball playing midfielder so it's very difficult to get out. At least with 3 in midfield we can press much higher and force mistakes. We don't yet have the players for either system but we are a work in progress.
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