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Post by wazbagsbro on Jan 9, 2021 17:43:09 GMT
I remember when Leicester offered 7million for Nzonzy and I laughed out loud ,Leave the mighty potters with our 9th place finishes for a club no bigger than us who are fighting relegation.Anyway they signed Huth "as Hughes had no faith in him " and the rest is history .However ,we had at least as much money as them for new players, We had just as many supporters ,Now they look light years away and I'd love to know where the fault actually lies and if it's been rectified. If we go up through playoffs are we going to be a Wolves with a strong team to hold our own or a Norwich playing relegation season after season.What are we doing
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Post by Goonie on Jan 9, 2021 17:46:13 GMT
1 buy another new Canada Goose cost as this one is dirty 2 do my impression of Scrooge McDuck by swimming through my cash assets 3 avoid covid
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Post by albundy on Jan 9, 2021 17:48:07 GMT
I remember when Leicester offered 7million for Nzonzy and I laughed out loud ,Leave the mighty potters with our 9th place finishes for a club no bigger than us who are fighting relegation.Anyway they signed Huth "as Hughes had no faith in him " and the rest is history .However ,we had at least as much money as them for new players, We had just as many supporters ,Now they look light years away and I'd love to know where the fault actually lies and if it's been rectified. If we go up through playoffs are we going to be a Wolves with a strong team to hold our own or a Norwich playing relegation season after season.What are we doing What are we doing? I remember being relegated with Manchester City to division 3 and now look at them The chairman should hang his head in shame
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Post by liathroid on Jan 9, 2021 17:49:06 GMT
I remember when Leicester offered 7million for Nzonzy and I laughed out loud ,Leave the mighty potters with our 9th place finishes for a club no bigger than us who are fighting relegation.Anyway they signed Huth "as Hughes had no faith in him " and the rest is history .However ,we had at least as much money as them for new players, We had just as many supporters ,Now they look light years away and I'd love to know where the fault actually lies and if it's been rectified. If we go up through playoffs are we going to be a Wolves with a strong team to hold our own or a Norwich playing relegation season after season.What are we doing What are we doing? I remember being relegated with Manchester City to division 3 and now look at them The chairman should hang his head in shame WOW
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 9, 2021 17:50:37 GMT
Look at our squad and when the majority of our overpaid deadwood is out of contract and the problem is as plain as the nose on your face.
We have about 15 players out of contract at the end of next season, only then we will be able to fully rebuild properly and cut our cloth accordingly. If we go up in the meantime it's a bonus, but the plan is hopefully to back MON as much as we can within the realms of FFP, keep investing in our academy and move the club forward on the pitch but financially.....
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Post by questionable on Jan 9, 2021 17:50:42 GMT
He looked quite comfortable this afternoon when he drove past me.
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Post by Veritas on Jan 9, 2021 17:51:07 GMT
I remember when Leicester offered 7million for Nzonzy and I laughed out loud ,Leave the mighty potters with our 9th place finishes for a club no bigger than us who are fighting relegation.Anyway they signed Huth "as Hughes had no faith in him " and the rest is history .However ,we had at least as much money as them for new players, We had just as many supporters ,Now they look light years away and I'd love to know where the fault actually lies and if it's been rectified. If we go up through playoffs are we going to be a Wolves with a strong team to hold our own or a Norwich playing relegation season after season.What are we doing What are we doing? I remember being relegated with Manchester City to division 3 and now look at them The chairman should hang his head in shame I will give you the benefit of thinking this is an attempt at irony.
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Post by bingbang on Jan 9, 2021 18:13:09 GMT
Take the money out of the equation and Coates is clueless. He thought Scholes and Cartwright were excellent at their jobs , player recruitment, he eventually saw through one, but the other still hangs around like a bad smell, purchasing such shit as Vokes, Wimmer, Etebo, Bauer, etc, etc, etc the list is endless. How many successful purchases has he done 😬
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jan 9, 2021 18:15:52 GMT
Take the money out of the equation and Coates is clueless. He thought Scholes and Cartwright were excellent at their jobs , player recruitment, he eventually saw through one, but the other still hangs around like a bad smell, purchasing such shit as Vokes, Wimmer, Etebo, Bauer, etc, etc, etc the list is endless. How many successful purchases has he done 😬 For a bloke that’s not interested any longer you have a lot to say🤔
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Post by bingbang on Jan 9, 2021 18:17:54 GMT
Will always have an interest just very frustrated at what’s happened you our club.
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Post by wazbagsbro on Jan 9, 2021 18:28:26 GMT
I remember when Leicester offered 7million for Nzonzy and I laughed out loud ,Leave the mighty potters with our 9th place finishes for a club no bigger than us who are fighting relegation.Anyway they signed Huth "as Hughes had no faith in him " and the rest is history .However ,we had at least as much money as them for new players, We had just as many supporters ,Now they look light years away and I'd love to know where the fault actually lies and if it's been rectified. If we go up through playoffs are we going to be a Wolves with a strong team to hold our own or a Norwich playing relegation season after season.What are we doing What are we doing? I remember being relegated with Manchester City to division 3 and now look at them The chairman should hang his head in shame I was also there ,throughout Coates time as chairman and it was mostly miserable until he was finally chased out of the ground I just want him to say that Bet 365 are totally commited to Stoke being a top league, competitive team in his lifetime and his kids.A few years where he finances self sufficiency
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 9, 2021 18:32:13 GMT
The chairman and his family have thrown their own personal wealth down the drain over the last 5 years and continue to support Stoke City Football Club. If they withdraw their support you'll soon see what a football club in crisis looks like.
They've made mistakes, they've made them with their own money and with the best intentions. It's life.
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 9, 2021 18:33:31 GMT
What are we doing? I remember being relegated with Manchester City to division 3 and now look at them The chairman should hang his head in shame I was also there ,throughout Coates time as chairman and it was mostly miserable until he was finally chased out of the ground I just want him to say that Bet 365 are totally commited to Stoke being a top league, competitive team in his lifetime and his kids.A few years where he finances self sufficiency Why should he? Forgetting FFP exists why should he bank roll a football club that already owes his family in the region of £150m?
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Post by wazbagsbro on Jan 9, 2021 19:03:58 GMT
So don't bank roll ,just state his plans ,I've said it twice , where are we planning to be in 5 or so years.Arsenal have 2 players on the pitch that we could of signed ,one that we bailed at the price , look what they are worth now . Are we playing safe ,with a safe budget ,self sufficient ,or are we contenders . It's all Coates choice just let us know
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 9, 2021 19:10:16 GMT
So don't bank roll ,just state his plans ,I've said it twice , where are we planning to be in 5 or so years.Arsenal have 2 players on the pitch that we could of signed ,one that we bailed at the price , look what they are worth now . Are we playing safe ,with a safe budget ,self sufficient ,or are we contenders . It's all Coates choice just let us know Which part of we're adhering to FFP don't you get? We blew our golden ticket. They put it in the hands of Gary Rowett and we blew every single penny of it. We're still paying for it now. His hands are totally tied. We're a championship club with a championship budget. His plans will be to try and get us back into the premier league, but he can't bank roll that and nor can anyone else. The budget is what what we are allowed to spend and the sooner you and other supporters get that between their ears the sooner this constant negative bollocks about all aspects of the club might change.
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Post by onefatcopper on Jan 9, 2021 19:45:05 GMT
The chairman and his family have thrown their own personal wealth down the drain over the last 5 years and continue to support Stoke City Football Club. If they withdraw their support you'll soon see what a football club in crisis looks like. They've made mistakes, they've made them with their own money and with the best intentions. It's life. And don’t forget when most clubs are not receiving any gate revenue our chairman and his family have kept our club solvent when some clubs like one previously named ARSENAL have gone with cap in hand for a convenient government loan (forever hang your heads in shame). I believe that know one from the management down to turnstile operators have been left out of pocket or have been furloughed. That’s the sort of club I’m proud to be a supporter of, and one I believe that Michael O’Neill can rebuild if we don’t drive him out of the door. For gods sake it’s time to take a reality check and realise we are not a Premier League club anymore and we can’t compete with a top three team. But Leicester can give us hope, because just look at their story over the past five years, that’s inspirational for anyone.
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Post by Gods on Jan 9, 2021 19:54:50 GMT
It is time we heard from someone on the Board.
Nothing sinister, it's just been a long time.
MON pads up and goes out to bat each week and takes the football questions.
But it would be good to get the wider picture. What are our hopes, aspirations ambitions? Are we meeting them? What are the challenges? That stuff...
I don't even know who does the Boards bidding anymore. Is Peter still the mouthpiece or does John do that now or does it come from Scholes.
Perhaps Scholes has been furloghed? Who knows...
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Post by wazbagsbro on Jan 9, 2021 19:55:27 GMT
But he baulked at Tierneys price whilst in premier and lost out on Cedric to Southampton because of their bigger wage structure. Anyway ,that's all irrelevant ,What I'm asking is what are our long term plans .I can still remember Peter Coates saying he would like to one day do a Barnsley and get promoted to the top league for a season .I realise his money situation has changed ,have his plans for us. What are his daughters plans in the long term.I know we are stuck cuz of ffp. What's the long term plan. I'm not going to state this question again u either get it or u dont
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 9, 2021 20:00:29 GMT
But he baulked at Tierneys price whilst in premier and lost out on Cedric to Southampton because of their bigger wage structure. Anyway ,that's all irrelevant ,What I'm asking is what are our long term plans .I can still remember Peter Coates saying he would like to one day do a Barnsley and get promoted to the top league for a season .I realise his money situation has changed ,have his plans for us. What are his daughters plans in the long term.I know we are stuck cuz of ffp. What's the long term plan. I'm not going to state this question again u either get it or u dont Could you find me a recent statement from anyone of the other 91 football League clubs that outlines such things? I'd like a read.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 20:04:30 GMT
The chairman and his family have thrown their own personal wealth down the drain over the last 5 years and continue to support Stoke City Football Club. If they withdraw their support you'll soon see what a football club in crisis looks like. They've made mistakes, they've made them with their own money and with the best intentions. It's life. Well said 👍
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Post by thevoid on Jan 9, 2021 20:26:29 GMT
I was also there ,throughout Coates time as chairman and it was mostly miserable until he was finally chased out of the ground I just want him to say that Bet 365 are totally commited to Stoke being a top league, competitive team in his lifetime and his kids.A few years where he finances self sufficiency Why should he? Forgetting FFP exists why should he bank roll a football club that already owes his family in the region of £150m? Because he's the owner?
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Post by bagnallboothen on Jan 9, 2021 20:31:03 GMT
Why should he? Forgetting FFP exists why should he bank roll a football club that already owes his family in the region of £150m? Because he's the owner? Outside of Man City and Chelsea do any other owners bank roll their clubs for a period of 20 plus years? It's his choice, because he owns the club and he's rich doesn't mean he has to and it shouldn't be expected. I'm sure he'd sell if the right offer came along...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 20:34:28 GMT
Chairman’s long terms plans are to get stoke city back in the premiership
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Post by spoton on Jan 9, 2021 20:35:42 GMT
Look at our squad and when the majority of our overpaid deadwood is out of contract and the problem is as plain as the nose on your face. We have about 15 players out of contract at the end of next season, only then we will be able to fully rebuild properly and cut our cloth accordingly. If we go up in the meantime it's a bonus, but the plan is hopefully to back MON as much as we can within the realms of FFP, keep investing in our academy and move the club forward on the pitch but financially..... Well the money the manager has had so far he's waisted his players are know better in fact worse than we have had, i personally would not trust him with any money, normally 1 out of 6 signing ends up a good one can you honestly say he got it right
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Post by robinplumpton on Jan 9, 2021 20:43:31 GMT
Been through the "Coates out" years and the "Dong" years. His loyalty to the area has been exemplary. His loyalty to other individuals has been equally , personally laudable, yet some might say flawed. It was interesting to hear from Gerry Taggart earlier. The usual (interviewed on BBC radio Stoke..."Stoke are a premier league club") what was perhaps more interesting was the view that MON could and should be a Premier League Manager now. Maybe if MON continues to polish the "t*rd" left by Hughes, Lambert, Rowett, Mad Nath, Coates' biggest challenge long term, will be facilitating a squad that MON can truly have a fair crack with. "coates out", "Transfer Dong", my favourite is "Saint Peter".
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 9, 2021 20:45:43 GMT
Look at our squad and when the majority of our overpaid deadwood is out of contract and the problem is as plain as the nose on your face. We have about 15 players out of contract at the end of next season, only then we will be able to fully rebuild properly and cut our cloth accordingly. If we go up in the meantime it's a bonus, but the plan is hopefully to back MON as much as we can within the realms of FFP, keep investing in our academy and move the club forward on the pitch but financially..... Well the money the manager has had so far he's waisted his players are know better in fact worse than we have had, i personally would not trust him with any money, normally 1 out of 6 signing ends up a good one can you honestly say he got it right Yeah that 2 and a bit million he's spent has been horrific, how have we gone from relegation certainties to play off contenders?
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Post by wazbagsbro on Jan 9, 2021 20:46:57 GMT
Ffs, I know he wants us to go up ,are we planning on going up for a season or planning to be a force under the wealth of get 365 . What are his families plans for our club
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Post by heworksardtho on Jan 9, 2021 21:26:55 GMT
Spend his billions on ladyboys in Thailand
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Post by pushon on Jan 9, 2021 22:01:04 GMT
Which of the joint-chairmen are you referring to, Peter or John? I assume that John has more influence on the investment eminating from Bet365, as he is or was joint CEO.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 10, 2021 1:33:22 GMT
Just ask Davesviews
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