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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 9, 2021 20:20:39 GMT
He’s clearly being phased out of the team rather than being reintegrated back into it which is how it should be as I’d hate him to be mocked as he is on here now. He was poor today and it’s time to move on. A testimonial in front of a full house would be a fitting end to a fantastic career. But he’s not Championship standard anymore unfortunately.
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Post by a on Jan 9, 2021 20:23:36 GMT
He’s clearly being phased out of the team rather than being reintegrated back into it which is how it should be as I’d hate him to be mocked as he is on here now. He was poor today and it’s time to move on. A testimonial in front of a full house would be a fitting end to a fantastic career. But he’s not Championship standard anymore unfortunately. I’m not sure he’s being mocked to be honest, I think that it’s being mentioned that sadly he’s not at the races anymore (in some opinions) and that rather than see a decline he should be asked to fulfil a coaching role sooner rather than later.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 20:23:38 GMT
I'm not sure what the liner was doing on the 4th. Albrighton completely impeded Bursik Exactly, luckily it didn't really matter by then, almost as bad as the foul Evans got for Brown standing near him. Ref was definitely after an after match gang bang with the Leicester players
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jan 9, 2021 20:25:09 GMT
Some of the shite being posted on this thread is unbelievable. 'not good enough for the championship' 'too slow' 'should be behind baath and Chester in pecking order' 'not comfortable on the ball'....all utter horseshit. A few of you really need to give your heads a wobble.
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Post by jimigoodwinsbeard on Jan 9, 2021 20:26:39 GMT
It has certainly rankled a few on here. Perhaps unnecessary but not really something to get overly upset about. I'd never get upset over you being a bellend The a probably stands for arsegravy. Thats what he spouts most of the time. 🙄
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Post by bigvern on Jan 9, 2021 20:30:38 GMT
Considering how long he had been out I thought his defending was excellent 1st half. He got tired 2nd half which was expected.
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Post by kustokie on Jan 9, 2021 20:32:23 GMT
He wasn’t that bad but what infuriates me is how he always kicks the ball out of play and never looks to try to keep posession. That really impresses me in respect to Collins and Soutter. Great servant but he should only play in emergencies. He’s clearly aware of his limitations and has never been capable for playing it out from the back. He’s an old fashioned centre half. The best he can do is a 50 yd sand wedge. Souttar on the other hand has good foot skills and is very capable when pushing the ball into the oppositions half of the pitch.
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Post by karl on Jan 9, 2021 20:34:04 GMT
Great player that he's been over the years that was pretty awful and a shame but we need to move him out in the summer. His wage is far better going to some younger players that can actually keep up with the pace of a game. I am sure from something I have read that his contract ends in June.
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Post by a on Jan 9, 2021 20:35:49 GMT
I'd never get upset over you being a bellend The a probably stands for arsegravy. Thats what he spouts most of the time. 🙄 Oh dear, can’t handle a difference of opinion? Poor you Can’t find looney tunes post about me being a “bellend” either, how strange... Cmon lads you’re better than this, plus if your mum and dad are key workers you can get back to school soon 😂 😉 Edit: just noticed I questioned a thread you created earlier, clearly you’ve taken it quite badly 🤣
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 9, 2021 20:40:10 GMT
That's probably why we lost 4-0 Utter horseshit again. He was one of the better players today. Better than both Souttar and Baath. So how many goals did Shawcross cost us opposed to Batth?
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Post by karl on Jan 9, 2021 21:01:25 GMT
Utter horseshit again. He was one of the better players today. Better than both Souttar and Baath. So how many goals did Shawcross cost us opposed to Batth? Shawcross used to have two sides to his game one being on the end of set pieces. Cannot remember the last time he scored one. The other defending seems to find himself stranded in midfield if the opposition make a quick counter attack.
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Post by jarhead on Jan 9, 2021 21:04:29 GMT
Need him off the wage books now legend that he is he offers nothing now going forward to where we want to be.
His time has come to an end we can’t keep having past greats hanging around on big wages If offering nothing.
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Post by robinplumpton on Jan 9, 2021 21:25:14 GMT
Exactly, luckily it didn't really matter by then, almost as bad as the foul Evans got for Brown standing near him. Ref was definitely after an after match gang bang with the Leicester players Shows the naivety of our players. Leicester players diving to the floor with outcries of anguish that could only mean they were fatally wounded. Result was a free kick and up they get like Lazarus. Cue the wardrobe fouled near the centre circle, he goes down in stages like a Fred Dibnah building. By the time he has realised he is on the floor, the ball is 10 yards and two moves away
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Post by raythesailor on Jan 9, 2021 21:42:26 GMT
Jesus Wept.
The guy played his first start game against a TOP OF THE PREM LGE opposition, surrounded by a makeshift poor Stoke team and he is being written off by Keyboard Experts. ?
Place him in a well built and disciplined formation and he is still more than capable of holding his own at the level that we are in.
Which is not the level that Leicester our opponents were today.
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Post by tuum on Jan 9, 2021 21:43:18 GMT
He was our best centre half today He wasn’t as good as souttar Oh yes he was!
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Post by tuum on Jan 9, 2021 21:48:41 GMT
I am genuinely perplexed as to how people seem to think that Shawcross was to blame for the 4th goal. To me, he did well to block the cross. Expecting him to boot it into the stands is just nonsense really. I have not seen a replay of the 3rd goal that shows his involvement - all I can see is he is way out of position but there is no context to that view so no idea if he messed up earlier but I suspect Allen's decision making contributed more to the outcome than anything Shawcross did or didn't do earlier.
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Post by blackpoolred on Jan 9, 2021 22:03:21 GMT
Great player that he's been over the years that was pretty awful and a shame but we need to move him out in the summer. His wage is far better going to some younger players that can actually keep up with the pace of a game. Our defence has been in a diaboligal state for years and it is no different now, in terms of quality - against the top 6 teams in the championship we need to score at least 3 to stick a chance of winning or getting a result. We have a manager that gets the team defending as a unit which against the mediocre teams is resulting in us getting clean sheets but does involve us sticking ten men behind the ball against Barnsley - but subject that defence to a bit of pace and movement up front then it inevitably folds. Writing Shawx off when he has not played a full 90 mins for god knows how long is a bit premature given the lack of any genuine quality in our defence at the moment. We desperately need quality in all positions of defence - also central areas. Problem being we have so many central defenders on our books we are going to off-load a few before we can bring in - I personally would wait and see how Shawx goes for the rest of the season before writing him off.
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Post by a on Jan 9, 2021 22:09:44 GMT
Great player that he's been over the years that was pretty awful and a shame but we need to move him out in the summer. His wage is far better going to some younger players that can actually keep up with the pace of a game. Our defence has been in a diaboligal state for years and it is no different now, in terms of quality - against the top 6 teams in the championship we need to score at least 3 to stick a chance of winning or getting a result. We have a manager that gets the team defending as a unit which against the mediocre teams is resulting in us getting clean sheets but does involve us sticking ten men behind the ball against Barnsley - but subject that defence to a bit of pace and movement up front then it inevitably folds. Writing Shawx off when he has not played a full 90 mins for god knows how long is a bit premature given the lack of any genuine quality in our defence at the moment. We desperately need quality in all positions of defence - also central areas. Problem being we have so many central defenders on our books we are going to off-load a few before we can bring in - I personally would wait and see how Shawx goes for the rest of the season before writing him off. Yes I get your point, however the concern and rightly so is that he is a very injury prone player in his thirties now who was once excellent and an absolute pleasure to watch, and I’m eternally grateful for his service to this club, but I think his days are done apart from a bit part. I’d rather he called it and became one of our coaching staff than see him being rinsed by half decent championship players (which may happen, may not) And if some alleged grownups want to call me a bell end or say arsegravy (I mean, fucking seriously?!, arsegravy?!) then so be it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2021 22:23:30 GMT
He wasn’t as good as souttar Oh yes he was! Nowhere near.
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Post by blackpoolred on Jan 9, 2021 22:36:14 GMT
Our defence has been in a diaboligal state for years and it is no different now, in terms of quality - against the top 6 teams in the championship we need to score at least 3 to stick a chance of winning or getting a result. We have a manager that gets the team defending as a unit which against the mediocre teams is resulting in us getting clean sheets but does involve us sticking ten men behind the ball against Barnsley - but subject that defence to a bit of pace and movement up front then it inevitably folds. Writing Shawx off when he has not played a full 90 mins for god knows how long is a bit premature given the lack of any genuine quality in our defence at the moment. We desperately need quality in all positions of defence - also central areas. Problem being we have so many central defenders on our books we are going to off-load a few before we can bring in - I personally would wait and see how Shawx goes for the rest of the season before writing him off. Yes I get your point, however the concern and rightly so is that he is a very injury prone player in his thirties now who was once excellent and an absolute pleasure to watch, and I’m eternally grateful for his service to this club, but I think his days are done apart from a bit part. I’d rather he called it and became one of our coaching staff than see him being rinsed by half decent championship players (which may happen, may not) And if some alleged grownups want to call me a bell end or say arsegravy (I mean, fucking seriously?!, arsegravy?!) then so be it. I think if he gets another long term injury he will call it a day. However, he has only just turned 33 so if we can get him physically fit and more important than that match fit and get a couple of seasons out of him, then it can only benefit us - would great to see him partner Souttar for a couple of seasons and bring him on.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 9, 2021 22:55:39 GMT
Yes I get your point, however the concern and rightly so is that he is a very injury prone player in his thirties now who was once excellent and an absolute pleasure to watch, and I’m eternally grateful for his service to this club, but I think his days are done apart from a bit part. I’d rather he called it and became one of our coaching staff than see him being rinsed by half decent championship players (which may happen, may not) And if some alleged grownups want to call me a bell end or say arsegravy (I mean, fucking seriously?!, arsegravy?!) then so be it. I think if he gets another long term injury he will call it a day. However, he has only just turned 33 so if we can get him physically fit and more important than that match fit and get a couple of seasons out of him, then it can only benefit us - would great to see him partner Souttar for a couple of seasons and bring him on. You cannot be serious?
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Post by kerouac on Jan 9, 2021 22:59:53 GMT
He wasn’t as good as souttar Oh yes he was! Oh no he wasn’t.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 9, 2021 23:00:02 GMT
Another 2 seasons of persistent injuries and chronic cameos. Souttar and Collins are the future of our back 4 not the likes of Shawcross. Fuck me another 2 years of were on the road to nowhere. How many have you had FFS.
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Post by a on Jan 9, 2021 23:01:50 GMT
I think if he gets another long term injury he will call it a day. However, he has only just turned 33 so if we can get him physically fit and more important than that match fit and get a couple of seasons out of him, then it can only benefit us - would great to see him partner Souttar for a couple of seasons and bring him on. You cannot be serious? No mate fair enough if he gets fully fit and stays fit then yea. I’m just sadly very much doubting that will be reality. He was a fucking top top centre half but hasn’t been fit for a few seasons now and I don’t think he will get back to that. Such a shame but if he did then Christ that would be ace
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 9, 2021 23:29:27 GMT
Another 2 seasons of persistent injuries and chronic cameos. Souttar and Collins are the future of our back 4 not the likes of Shawcross. Fuck me another 2 years of were on the road to nowhere. How many have you had FFS. The very fact that you have described Shawcross as slow at the start of this thread does tend to weaken the validity of all your subsequent posts, particularly when Souttar is far slower than Shawcross.
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Post by Fred Merger on Jan 9, 2021 23:56:43 GMT
Another 2 seasons of persistent injuries and chronic cameos. Souttar and Collins are the future of our back 4 not the likes of Shawcross. Fuck me another 2 years of were on the road to nowhere. How many have you had FFS. The very fact that you have described Shawcross as slow at the start of this thread does tend to weaken the validity of all your subsequent posts, particularly when Souttar is far slower than Shawcross. Souttar does try to use the ball into feet though which is a big difference between the two players.
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Post by philb on Jan 10, 2021 0:06:50 GMT
Pantomime seasons finished lads (although I suppose it never got started) 🤣
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Post by kjpt140v on Jan 10, 2021 1:55:19 GMT
To post a thread about a player seconds after the final whistle suggests that you think he's the main problem. We have 6 bigger problems for me. It’s an issue, not perhaps the main issue. We’ve not been the same since Campbell then Fletchers injuries. We’ve rested Fletcher and Powell today which has made a difference. What's that got yo do with Shawcross?
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Post by a on Jan 10, 2021 2:07:54 GMT
It’s an issue, not perhaps the main issue. We’ve not been the same since Campbell then Fletchers injuries. We’ve rested Fletcher and Powell today which has made a difference. What's that got yo do with Shawcross? It’s in the Shawcross thread, re read through
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Post by hyaduck on Jan 10, 2021 2:41:41 GMT
Always has been and always will be, a very limited footballer. He is a no nonsense centre half with very little ability, give him the ball to his feet and he truly is clueless, maybe down to being brainwashed by Pulis to hoof at every opportunity.
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