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Post by crouchpotato1 on Dec 31, 2020 12:58:59 GMT
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Dec 31, 2020 13:31:53 GMT
An absolutely disgraceful list Crouchy. There should be an extra penalty for those who break this law, perhaps an extra amount per hour in the future for their lowest paid. There's no excuse, companies like Tesco are large enough to employ someone in payroll to ensure this happens. It's good that the legislation does seem to have been followed up though
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 31, 2020 13:34:54 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 31, 2020 13:38:06 GMT
Good to see us not on the list on this occasion.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 31, 2020 13:44:38 GMT
In fairness, one company deserves particular mention in the naming and shaming... The investigation found that between 2016 and 2018 139 named companies failed to pay £6.7 million to over 95,000 workers in total of which Tesco failed to pay £5,096,946.13 to 78,199 workers. Wow!!!! Looking forward to hear their explanation.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Dec 31, 2020 14:33:16 GMT
Only 139 companies?
That means either:
1. The minimum wage legislation has been amazingly successful and 99.999% are complying?
Or:
2. They are hopeless at identifying non-compliance and tens of thousands of companies are getting away with it?
I wonder which one it could be?
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 31, 2020 14:48:35 GMT
In fairness, one company deserves particular mention in the naming and shaming... The investigation found that between 2016 and 2018 139 named companies failed to pay £6.7 million to over 95,000 workers in total of which Tesco failed to pay £5,096,946.13 to 78,199 workers. Wow!!!! Looking forward to hear their explanation. It's just over £1.00 a week per person... The list is a bit smoke and mirrors TBH. Some of the bigger culprits are further down the list, where the total shortfall is less, but divided by fewer employees. Mrs Emma Hartley, trading as Whitehall Hairdressing, Leeds, failed to pay £12,882.14 to 2 workers Worldwide Foods (Birmingham) Limited, trading as Al-Halal Supermarket, Birmingham B10, failed to pay £8,062.88 to 1 worker ETC ETC ETC Though wrong, a shortfall of £1.00 a week is hardly slave labour, but the 2 I mentioned above most certainly are
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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 31, 2020 14:51:24 GMT
In fairness, one company deserves particular mention in the naming and shaming... The investigation found that between 2016 and 2018 139 named companies failed to pay £6.7 million to over 95,000 workers in total of which Tesco failed to pay £5,096,946.13 to 78,199 workers. Wow!!!! Looking forward to hear their explanation. It's just over £1.00 a week per person... The list is a bit smoke and mirrors TBH. Some of the bigger culprits are further down the list, where the total shortfall is less, but divided by fewer employees. Mrs Emma Hartley, trading as Whitehall Hairdressing, Leeds, failed to pay £12,882.14 to 2 workers Worldwide Foods (Birmingham) Limited, trading as Al-Halal Supermarket, Birmingham B10, failed to pay £8,062.88 to 1 worker ETC ETC ETC Though wrong, a shortfall of £1.00 a week is hardly slave labour, but the 2 I mentioned above most certainly are You're assuming all of those workers were employed for the entire period in question. I'd imagine Tesco have a very high turnover of staff.
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Post by spiderpuss on Dec 31, 2020 15:06:15 GMT
In the current climate can some of the pubs, restaurants and hotels afford to continue with the sums mentioned? I find it hard to believe that some of these workers will see a penny of what is owed.
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Post by partickpotter on Dec 31, 2020 15:42:48 GMT
It's just over £1.00 a week per person... The list is a bit smoke and mirrors TBH. Some of the bigger culprits are further down the list, where the total shortfall is less, but divided by fewer employees. Mrs Emma Hartley, trading as Whitehall Hairdressing, Leeds, failed to pay £12,882.14 to 2 workers Worldwide Foods (Birmingham) Limited, trading as Al-Halal Supermarket, Birmingham B10, failed to pay £8,062.88 to 1 worker ETC ETC ETC Though wrong, a shortfall of £1.00 a week is hardly slave labour, but the 2 I mentioned above most certainly are You're assuming all of those workers were employed for the entire period in question. I'd imagine Tesco have a very high turnover of staff. I suspect it’s some sort of payroll fuck up by Tesco. A large company like that trades on its brand isn’t going to deliberately break the law. I’m sure they will provide an explanation.
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 31, 2020 16:03:24 GMT
You're assuming all of those workers were employed for the entire period in question. I'd imagine Tesco have a very high turnover of staff. I suspect it’s some sort of payroll fuck up by Tesco. A large company like that trades on its brand isn’t going to deliberately break the law. I’m sure they will provide an explanation. Correct. At an average of £1.00 a week that's 2 1/2 p an hour... Probably a rounding up mistake, or overtime...who knows, but 5million to 75,000 workers is tiny.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 31, 2020 17:00:03 GMT
I suspect it’s some sort of payroll fuck up by Tesco. A large company like that trades on its brand isn’t going to deliberately break the law. I’m sure they will provide an explanation. Correct. At an average of £1.00 a week that's 2 1/2 p an hour... Probably a rounding up mistake, or overtime...who knows, but 5million to 75,000 workers is tiny. Again, you're assuming all those staff worked 40 hours per week for 52 weeks of the year. Lots of them wouldn't have done, they'd have been seasonal workers or part time.
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 31, 2020 17:07:58 GMT
Correct. At an average of £1.00 a week that's 2 1/2 p an hour... Probably a rounding up mistake, or overtime...who knows, but 5million to 75,000 workers is tiny. Again, you're assuming all those staff worked 40 hours per week for 52 weeks of the year. Lots of them wouldn't have done, they'd have been seasonal workers or part time. Ok. Have it your way. They owe it all to just 2 workers Oh.. And they paid it all back in 2017.. But hey.. Facts destroy good stories
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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 31, 2020 17:27:59 GMT
Again, you're assuming all those staff worked 40 hours per week for 52 weeks of the year. Lots of them wouldn't have done, they'd have been seasonal workers or part time. Ok. Have it your way. They owe it all to just 2 workers Oh.. And they paid it all back in 2017.. But hey.. Facts destroy good stories You saying it was £1 per week per worker wasn't factual. You made huge assumptions to calculate it. I haven't slated Tesco once in this thread, just pointed out that your maths is most likely way off.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 31, 2020 17:40:57 GMT
If I’m paying Gloria in Tingles £50 an hour does that mean A I’m a mug or B a good payer or C desperate
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 31, 2020 19:15:06 GMT
Ok. Have it your way. They owe it all to just 2 workers Oh.. And they paid it all back in 2017.. But hey.. Facts destroy good stories You saying it was £1 per week per worker wasn't factual. You made huge assumptions to calculate it. I haven't slated Tesco once in this thread, just pointed out that your maths is most likely way off. Do you have a dictionary. If so look up the word " Average" Then read my post. Happy reading.
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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 31, 2020 20:32:35 GMT
You saying it was £1 per week per worker wasn't factual. You made huge assumptions to calculate it. I haven't slated Tesco once in this thread, just pointed out that your maths is most likely way off. Do you have a dictionary. If so look up the word " Average" Then read my post. Happy reading. So, I work for a company for 1 week. They underpay me by £1,000 for that week. You think I've been underpaid by an average of £40 per week? Really? Ok mate.
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 31, 2020 20:39:24 GMT
Companies can legally get away with paying barely anything by giving out apprenticeships.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Dec 31, 2020 20:47:45 GMT
If we know who they are & who they've shafted, make them pay. Pathetic how we let companies get away with this shit.
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 31, 2020 21:14:47 GMT
Do you have a dictionary. If so look up the word " Average" Then read my post. Happy reading. So, I work for a company for 1 week. They underpay me by £1,000 for that week. You think I've been underpaid by an average of £40 per week? Really? Ok mate. FFS Tesco underpay 75,000 employees by 5 mill ( aprox) That's an average of 1 quid a week. Are you really that bad with numbers.
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Post by mattyd2 on Dec 31, 2020 21:21:54 GMT
If you got underpaid 1000 quid for 1 week, that equates to 52,000 a year. If they did the same to 75,0000f you that's nearly 4 billion. All I am saying is Tesco is less than 3pence an hour ON AVERAGE. YES...ON AVERAGE...SOME MORE, SOME LESS...ON AVERAGE. Just in case u miss the point ON AVERAGE....
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Post by followyoudown on Dec 31, 2020 21:37:30 GMT
Do you have a dictionary. If so look up the word " Average" Then read my post. Happy reading. So, I work for a company for 1 week. They underpay me by £1,000 for that week. You think I've been underpaid by an average of £40 per week? Really? Ok mate. Many of these companies are probably in some sort of minor technical breach, from memory Stoke were on the list last year or the year before because they allowed some staff to take match tickets in lieu of pay and even though match tickets were to the value of pay it counted as not been paid. For tesco I imagine its something similarly minor like saying they have to be at tills 5 minutes before they start work or something silly.
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Post by salopstick on Dec 31, 2020 21:48:59 GMT
Let’s see if they publish the list of 139 fines
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Post by Dave the Rave on Jan 1, 2021 10:09:49 GMT
If you got underpaid 1000 quid for 1 week, that equates to 52,000 a year. If they did the same to 75,0000f you that's nearly 4 billion. All I am saying is Tesco is less than 3pence an hour ON AVERAGE. YES...ON AVERAGE...SOME MORE, SOME LESS...ON AVERAGE. Just in case u miss the point ON AVERAGE.... But you're basing your average on a timeframe and number of working hours per week that you've totally invented. What if all those underpayments happened in a certain period where they made an error? It could have been just one month's worth of underpayments. What if all of the staff affected were part time as it was a pro-rata salary issue? What if the underpayments all related to overtime so we're based on a much smaller number of hours? To work out an average of anything you need to have the information to do so. You've taken two basic pieces of info and assumed the key metrics - the length of time involved and the hours worked. To get a true average you'd need to know the average working hours and average period of employment to work out an average underpayment per hour. You can't just pick full time and 1 year.
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