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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 26, 2020 22:47:49 GMT
News story tonight of over privileged backwards toffs still allowing dogs to rip foxes apart.
Why don't the UK public care enough to stand up to the ruling classes over this?
Why is this never a major issue in our newspapers?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 26, 2020 23:02:15 GMT
News story tonight of over privileged backwards toffs still allowing dogs to rip foxes apart. Why don't the UK public care enough to stand up to the ruling classes over this? Why is this never a major issue in our newspapers? It’s disgusting. Should have been banned many years ago. |
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Post by riverman on Dec 26, 2020 23:13:27 GMT
They were actually trespassing on private land too. I'd have shot the dogs, see how the despicable swines like that.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Dec 26, 2020 23:15:56 GMT
It was banned years ago,,
They are not worried about the laws
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 26, 2020 23:29:13 GMT
Fox hunting really is a nasty ritual. Fox's are some of the most, if not THE most beautiful creature on the British Isles.
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Post by foster on Dec 27, 2020 1:36:01 GMT
Add the environment, sustainability poverty and radical terrorism to that list.
But let's be honest... None of these are as important as BLM and catching our own fish.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 27, 2020 6:48:11 GMT
Never been on a hunt but shot a fair few foxes in me time
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Post by chuffedstokie on Dec 27, 2020 7:03:58 GMT
The one that caused havoc in our chicken coop some years ago on 2 separate occasions received its comeuppance from my mother in laws neighbour who also kept geese and a shotgun,the rest (as was the fox) is history. Despite burying the wire well it still got in and just destroyed everything, twice. It wasn't the only one that met its maker that way.
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Post by zerps on Dec 27, 2020 7:44:01 GMT
News story tonight of over privileged backwards toffs still allowing dogs to rip foxes apart. Why don't the UK public care enough to stand up to the ruling classes over this? Why is this never a major issue in our newspapers? Because they’re all racist |
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Post by wagsastokie on Dec 27, 2020 7:58:23 GMT
News story tonight of over privileged backwards toffs still allowing dogs to rip foxes apart. Why don't the UK public care enough to stand up to the ruling classes over this? Why is this never a major issue in our newspapers? Because they’re all racist And they probably all voted remain so as to keep access to their European second homes |
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Post by felonious on Dec 27, 2020 8:35:06 GMT
The one that caused havoc in our chicken coop some years ago on 2 separate occasions received its comeuppance from my mother in laws neighbour who also kept geese and a shotgun,the rest (as was the fox) is history. Despite burying the wire well it still got in and just destroyed everything, twice. It wasn't the only one that met its maker that way. You don't mean that these lovely fluffy animals kill for fun and not just the juicy chicken that they want to eat? |
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Post by tonythefox on Dec 27, 2020 8:35:19 GMT
Nowt wrong shooting a fox if it’s killing your chickens or livestock ,
To hunt with hounds in the name of tradition and sport is wrong.
Rich hunt leaders have donated to Johnson and the Tory party.
The tories will try to bring it back in its entirety.
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 27, 2020 8:54:02 GMT
Nowt wrong shooting a fox if it’s killing your chickens or livestock , To hunt with hounds in the name of tradition and sport is wrong. Rich hunt leaders have donated to Johnson and the Tory party. The tories will try to bring it back in its entirety. It’s classed as a country sport and been going on for hundreds of years , even tho I don’t agree with it as I say I do shoot foxes . If ppl think that’s cruel what about the millions of fish that caught by trawlers and left to starve of oxygen in the ships hold , but then again they are just fish and not something nice and fluffy |
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 27, 2020 8:56:16 GMT
Nowt wrong shooting a fox if it’s killing your chickens or livestock , To hunt with hounds in the name of tradition and sport is wrong. Rich hunt leaders have donated to Johnson and the Tory party. The tories will try to bring it back in its entirety. It’s classed as a country sport and been going on for hundreds of years , even tho I don’t agree with it as I say I do shoot foxes . If ppl think that’s cruel what about the millions of fish that caught by trawlers and left to starve of oxygen in the ships hold , but then again they are just fish and not something nice and fluffy It's OK to eat fish cos they don't have any feelings. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 27, 2020 8:59:42 GMT
It’s classed as a country sport and been going on for hundreds of years , even tho I don’t agree with it as I say I do shoot foxes . If ppl think that’s cruel what about the millions of fish that caught by trawlers and left to starve of oxygen in the ships hold , but then again they are just fish and not something nice and fluffy It's OK to eat fish cos they don't have any feelings. Oh right |
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Post by Timmypotter on Dec 27, 2020 9:08:11 GMT
It's OK to eat fish cos they don't have any feelings. Oh right Nevermind |
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Post by raythesailor on Dec 27, 2020 9:11:41 GMT
It’s an old Cliche but; The Unspeakable chasing the Uneatable .😏
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 27, 2020 10:14:28 GMT
Just set a few dogs on the hunters..... they’d soon stop.
“ Dogs on Vogel” anyone ?
😂
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Post by salopstick on Dec 27, 2020 10:28:48 GMT
Not a big fan of hunting but hunts are only a small part of country life that does form a large part of the rural economy. In some cases culling is necessary
New Labour banned hunting not because of foxes but because of the type of people who hunted
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Post by Dutchpeter on Dec 27, 2020 10:46:46 GMT
I wouldn’t be sorry to see a genuine ban on fox hunting, but you could also say why no outrage over ritually slaughtered meat for example?
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Post by hcstokie on Dec 27, 2020 10:49:23 GMT
Not a big fan of hunting but hunts are only a small part of country life that does form a large part of the rural economy. In some cases culling is necessary New Labour banned hunting not because of foxes but because of the type of people who hunted Agree that culling is required in some circumstances but there’s a difference between culling and getting dressed up like a dick, sounding the horns and replicating the charge of the light brigade. |
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Post by salopstick on Dec 27, 2020 10:52:05 GMT
Not a big fan of hunting but hunts are only a small part of country life that does form a large part of the rural economy. In some cases culling is necessary New Labour banned hunting not because of foxes but because of the type of people who hunted Agree that culling is required in some circumstances but there’s a difference between culling and getting dressed up like a dick, sounding the horns and replicating the charge of the light brigade. Hence new Labour targeting the toffs |
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Post by hcstokie on Dec 27, 2020 11:06:47 GMT
Agree that culling is required in some circumstances but there’s a difference between culling and getting dressed up like a dick, sounding the horns and replicating the charge of the light brigade. Hence new Labour targeting the toffs I agree that it was probably politically motivated but I do think the ban was the right thing to do. When they try to justify hunting as culling I always raise a smile because if it takes upwards of 30 toffs, 30 horses and 60 dogs to kill a fox or two every weekend I’m surprised the farmers have any livestock left as it’s hardly an efficient culling method is it. |
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Post by Dave the Rave on Dec 27, 2020 11:46:56 GMT
I wouldn’t be sorry to see a genuine ban on fox hunting, but you could also say why no outrage over ritually slaughtered meat for example? Perhaps fears of being called anti-semitic play a part? The RSPCA reckon nearly 60% of Halal meat is stunned in the UK before slaughter, whereas 0% of Kosher meat is. Interesting that Halal gets most of the backlash though, despite the Muslim community clearly changing their ways on this topic. I don't have an issue per se with ritual slaughter providing it's not cruel. Anyway that's slightly off topic albeit linked to practices of animal cruelty in the 21st century. |
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Post by tonythefox on Dec 27, 2020 12:19:04 GMT
I wouldn’t be sorry to see a genuine ban on fox hunting, but you could also say why no outrage over ritually slaughtered meat for example? Perhaps fears of being called anti-semitic play a part? The RSPCA reckon nearly 60% of Halal meat is stunned in the UK before slaughter, whereas 0% of Kosher meat is. Interesting that Halal gets most of the backlash though, despite the Muslim community clearly changing their ways on this topic. I don't have an issue per se with ritual slaughter providing it's not cruel. Anyway that's slightly off topic albeit linked to practices of animal cruelty in the 21st century. Wow never knew this fact about kosher meat 🤔 |
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Post by lordb on Dec 27, 2020 12:45:09 GMT
News story tonight of over privileged backwards toffs still allowing dogs to rip foxes apart. Why don't the UK public care enough to stand up to the ruling classes over this? Why is this never a major issue in our newspapers? Because the newspapers are owned by the same toffs |
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Post by felonious on Dec 27, 2020 13:39:49 GMT
I wouldn’t be sorry to see a genuine ban on fox hunting, but you could also say why no outrage over ritually slaughtered meat for example? Perhaps fears of being called anti-semitic play a part? The RSPCA reckon nearly 60% of Halal meat is stunned in the UK before slaughter, whereas 0% of Kosher meat is. Interesting that Halal gets most of the backlash though, despite the Muslim community clearly changing their ways on this topic. I don't have an issue per se with ritual slaughter providing it's not cruel. Anyway that's slightly off topic albeit linked to practices of animal cruelty in the 21st century. Kosher meat in the market place is miniscule whereas Halal meat is over presented and growing. It would be good if we had the opportunity to avoid this barbaric practice. There should be no place in the UK for the ritual slaughter of animals you can't pick and choose which barbarism is acceptable. www.dialrel.net/dialrel/images/factsheet-market-uk.pdf |
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Post by lancashirelad on Dec 27, 2020 16:55:21 GMT
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Post by foster on Dec 27, 2020 17:20:57 GMT
Perhaps fears of being called anti-semitic play a part? The RSPCA reckon nearly 60% of Halal meat is stunned in the UK before slaughter, whereas 0% of Kosher meat is. Interesting that Halal gets most of the backlash though, despite the Muslim community clearly changing their ways on this topic. I don't have an issue per se with ritual slaughter providing it's not cruel. Anyway that's slightly off topic albeit linked to practices of animal cruelty in the 21st century. Kosher meat in the market place is miniscule whereas Halal meat is over presented and growing. It would be good if we had the opportunity to avoid this barbaric practice. There should be no place in the UK for the ritual slaughter of animals you can't pick and choose which barbarism is acceptable. www.dialrel.net/dialrel/images/factsheet-market-uk.pdfThat's true. So both should be equally highlighted. Whether one is more prevalent in the market place or not is irrelevant. Traditional Kosher or Halal shouldn't even be allowed in the UK (or any westernised country) in my opinion. However, if one is recognised by the RSPCA as being no different from standard slaughter methods (stunned first) then that should be highlighted. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Dec 27, 2020 17:51:07 GMT
A fox was caught by mistake at a hunt in Buckinghamshire on private land today , it was killed by three of the dogs and then the huntmaster tossed it into the pack of hunting hounds which ripped it to bits , now that is barbaric
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