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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 25, 2021 10:59:29 GMT
It's not unusual. But it is shite. I’m more worried about the state of Government in Scotland at the moment than a journalist’s exaggeration. Just hope it doesn't escalate and they end up doing something stupid, like proroguing parliament to avoid awkward questions.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 25, 2021 11:26:05 GMT
I’m more worried about the state of Government in Scotland at the moment than a journalist’s exaggeration. Just hope it doesn't escalate and they end up doing something stupid, like proroguing parliament to avoid awkward questions. Your example is a good one. It highlights the benefit of the judiciary being a separate branch to the executive so was able to act independently particularly when the third branch, legislature, isn’t, for whatever reason, able to perform its function effectively. That separation of the judiciary does not exist in Scotland as evidenced this week.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Feb 25, 2021 11:34:16 GMT
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 25, 2021 12:29:11 GMT
The outcome of another referendum would appear to be on a knife edge. I do think Sturgeon is starting to lose support and these latest antics won't have gone down well. Let's be honest, she might have to resign. Commit to giving them their referendum in 2023 maybe if they still want it. At which point emotions will have died down. And Sturgeon will have probably gone.
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Post by noustie on Feb 25, 2021 12:35:58 GMT
For me the issue was always going to arise unfortunately when the old guard moved on from the SNP who'd scrapped to get them where they are were replaced by the same type of careerist troughers that brought New Labour down. The dangers of having no opposition and being the only show in town for 45%+ of the population to vote to get another referendum was always going to go wrong just given the levels of shitebaggery in politics - its almost a hostage situation where they can do any mad shit they like whilst dangling the carrot.
If the Labour Lass wins as leader and backs a second referendum can see that possibly being the start of their resurgence up here.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 25, 2021 12:52:28 GMT
I’m more worried about the state of Government in Scotland at the moment than a journalist’s exaggeration. Just hope it doesn't escalate and they end up doing something stupid, like proroguing parliament to avoid awkward questions.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 25, 2021 12:55:22 GMT
The outcome of another referendum would appear to be on a knife edge. I do think Sturgeon is starting to lose support and these latest antics won't have gone down well. Let's be honest, she might have to resign.
Commit to giving them their referendum in 2023 maybe if they still want it. At which point emotions will have died down. And Sturgeon will have probably gone. Credit where it's due, there's never a shortage of entertainingly hyperbolic nonsense in your posts Go on then, £50 to DLTrust says she's still in post come 31 December 2021...
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Post by noustie on Feb 25, 2021 13:10:38 GMT
The outcome of another referendum would appear to be on a knife edge. I do think Sturgeon is starting to lose support and these latest antics won't have gone down well. Let's be honest, she might have to resign.
Commit to giving them their referendum in 2023 maybe if they still want it. At which point emotions will have died down. And Sturgeon will have probably gone. Credit where it's due, there's never a shortage of entertainingly hyperbolic nonsense in your posts Go on then, £50 to DLTrust says she's still in post come 31 December 2021... Fuck me that's a bold statement - I'm not sure she'll see out the next fortnight!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 25, 2021 13:13:55 GMT
Credit where it's due, there's never a shortage of entertainingly hyperbolic nonsense in your posts Go on then, £50 to DLTrust says she's still in post come 31 December 2021... Fuck me that's a bold statement - I'm not sure she'll see out the next fortnight! Well he chickened out of my offer of a bet that the EU would still be around by the end of the year, when he was confidently predicting otherwise, so we'll see if he takes this one
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 25, 2021 14:14:45 GMT
The outcome of another referendum would appear to be on a knife edge. I do think Sturgeon is starting to lose support and these latest antics won't have gone down well. Let's be honest, she might have to resign.
Commit to giving them their referendum in 2023 maybe if they still want it. At which point emotions will have died down. And Sturgeon will have probably gone. Credit where it's due, there's never a shortage of entertainingly hyperbolic nonsense in your posts Go on then, £50 to DLTrust says she's still in post come 31 December 2021... No point doing bets with you. Already put a perfectly clear, concise deal on the table for you around the EU a few weeks ago and you bottled it. Totally and utterly bottled it in one of the most humiliating cop outs you'll ever see on an oatcake thread.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 25, 2021 14:47:25 GMT
Credit where it's due, there's never a shortage of entertainingly hyperbolic nonsense in your posts Go on then, £50 to DLTrust says she's still in post come 31 December 2021... Fuck me that's a bold statement - I'm not sure she'll see out the next fortnight! I get the feeling she’s either gone in two weeks or here for the next two decades!!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 25, 2021 15:05:22 GMT
You'll no doubt be surprised to learn that Scotland's governance already has PR which you could have figured out from the seats maps on my previous post! I’m well aware of the voting system But I have a feeling it isn’t the form of PR you would be happy with As you can have a majority with only 45 percent or less of the vote 😀 Provided the number of votes received is in proportion to the number of representatives in parliament, I'd be happy! The fact that the SNP manages to achieve a majority in a system which generally doesn't produce majorities is testament to the "will of the people" as I'm sure you'd agree Unlike our daft system where the SNP gets 50 odd MPs with 1.5 million votes and UKIP gets none with 4 million votes.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 25, 2021 15:07:03 GMT
Credit where it's due, there's never a shortage of entertainingly hyperbolic nonsense in your posts Go on then, £50 to DLTrust says she's still in post come 31 December 2021... No point doing bets with you. Already put a perfectly clear, concise deal on the table for you around the EU a few weeks ago and you bottled it. Totally and utterly bottled it in one of the most humiliating cop outs you'll ever see on an oatcake thread. More hyperbolic nonsense - at least you're consistent You said she might have to resign as a result of the Salmond fuss - want to put your money where your mouth is, I will if you will?
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Feb 25, 2021 15:09:50 GMT
No point doing bets with you. Already put a perfectly clear, concise deal on the table for you around the EU a few weeks ago and you bottled it. Totally and utterly bottled it in one of the most humiliating cop outs you'll ever see on an oatcake thread. More hyperbolic nonsense - at least you're consistent You said she might have to resign as a result of the Salmond fuss - want to put your money where your mouth is, I will if you will? No, not really. I said she "might". It's probably 50/50. Hence "might".
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 25, 2021 15:27:32 GMT
More hyperbolic nonsense - at least you're consistent You said she might have to resign as a result of the Salmond fuss - want to put your money where your mouth is, I will if you will? No, not really. I said she "might". It's probably 50/50. Hence "might". Evens are pretty good odds, given the hole she's dug herself into. You sure?
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Post by tuum on Feb 25, 2021 16:04:18 GMT
The soap opera proceeds at pace... Crown Office ordered to release evidence of Alex Salmond 'conspiracy'You may recall on Monday Salmond’s evidence was published ahead of his appearance in front of a committee on Wednesday. Yesterday, Tuesday, the Crown Office pulled the evidence before allowing a redacted version to be published causing Salmond to cancel his appearance. Today, we learn that evidence (and possibly more) will now be published in full. Salmond has subsequently agreed to appear before the committee on Friday. So now, it seems, Salmond has the opportunity to put in the public domain the evidence he says exists that proves a conspiracy by the SNP government to put him behind bars. Sturgeon has denied any such evidence exists. The next few days is going to be interesting. They can’t both be right. Oh... the Crown Office, which is part of the Scottish Government reporting directly to Ms Sturgeon (yes, that is odd isn’t it!), has also now been summoned to appear in front of the committee to explain its actions. I have just read an opinion piece about this in todays Telegraph. The author was absolutely scathing of the SNP approach to governing. Can't remember all the points he made but he said if the Crown in England was allowed to override Parliament in the same way that the SNP has allowed in Scotland there would be uproar from all sides. It just would not be allowed. The Govt in Westminster would never get away with it. In Scotland the author seems to think the SNP can do what they want because Nationalism trumps democracy and there is no effective opposition. Also blames Tony Blair for giving Scotland devolved powers but not making Scotland accountable for raising the revenue to support those powers. Said Scotland was heading towards Failed State status. It seems the author is not a fan of the SNP and thinks the Tories and Labour need to work together to stop the SNP from ruining Scotland (and the Union). Are things really as bad up there as the Telegraph journalist believes?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 25, 2021 17:59:07 GMT
The soap opera proceeds at pace... Crown Office ordered to release evidence of Alex Salmond 'conspiracy'You may recall on Monday Salmond’s evidence was published ahead of his appearance in front of a committee on Wednesday. Yesterday, Tuesday, the Crown Office pulled the evidence before allowing a redacted version to be published causing Salmond to cancel his appearance. Today, we learn that evidence (and possibly more) will now be published in full. Salmond has subsequently agreed to appear before the committee on Friday. So now, it seems, Salmond has the opportunity to put in the public domain the evidence he says exists that proves a conspiracy by the SNP government to put him behind bars. Sturgeon has denied any such evidence exists. The next few days is going to be interesting. They can’t both be right. Oh... the Crown Office, which is part of the Scottish Government reporting directly to Ms Sturgeon (yes, that is odd isn’t it!), has also now been summoned to appear in front of the committee to explain its actions. I have just read an opinion piece about this in todays Telegraph. The author was absolutely scathing of the SNP approach to governing. Can't remember all the points he made but he said if the Crown in England was allowed to override Parliament in the same way that the SNP has allowed in Scotland there would be uproar from all sides. It just would not be allowed. The Govt in Westminster would never get away with it. In Scotland the author seems to think the SNP can do what they want because Nationalism trumps democracy and there is no effective opposition. Also blames Tony Blair for giving Scotland devolved powers but not making Scotland accountable for raising the revenue to support those powers. Said Scotland was heading towards Failed State status. It seems the author is not a fan of the SNP and thinks the Tories and Labour need to work together to stop the SNP from ruining Scotland (and the Union). Are things really as bad up there as the Telegraph journalist believes? Of course not, it's a DT opinion piece designed to appeal to its audience in much the same way that any newspaper Op-ed does. Look at the polling figures, they wouldn't be so demonstrably in favour of the SNP if Scotland was in the 'mess' the DT would like its readers to believe! Although there is some validity to the idea that, thanks to Brexit, the Scots have taken a leaf out of the Brexiteers book and now think fuck it, that's all that really matters... In short, it's trying to do what the DT always does whenever a Tory govt does something which might turn out bad - find somebody else to blame. Presumably the author overlooked Bluffer's unlawful pro-roguing of parliament...! With Covid, the blame has been firmly on the NHS, PHE and latterly us, the people. With Scottish Independence, it is of course with the SNP, not the fact that Brexit (a predominantly Tory-driven idea) has given independence a massive shot in the arm and may well lead to the break up of the Union and provided separatists with the perfect demonstration of why they should go it alone.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 25, 2021 18:39:52 GMT
The soap opera proceeds at pace... Crown Office ordered to release evidence of Alex Salmond 'conspiracy'You may recall on Monday Salmond’s evidence was published ahead of his appearance in front of a committee on Wednesday. Yesterday, Tuesday, the Crown Office pulled the evidence before allowing a redacted version to be published causing Salmond to cancel his appearance. Today, we learn that evidence (and possibly more) will now be published in full. Salmond has subsequently agreed to appear before the committee on Friday. So now, it seems, Salmond has the opportunity to put in the public domain the evidence he says exists that proves a conspiracy by the SNP government to put him behind bars. Sturgeon has denied any such evidence exists. The next few days is going to be interesting. They can’t both be right. Oh... the Crown Office, which is part of the Scottish Government reporting directly to Ms Sturgeon (yes, that is odd isn’t it!), has also now been summoned to appear in front of the committee to explain its actions. I have just read an opinion piece about this in todays Telegraph. The author was absolutely scathing of the SNP approach to governing. Can't remember all the points he made but he said if the Crown in England was allowed to override Parliament in the same way that the SNP has allowed in Scotland there would be uproar from all sides. It just would not be allowed. The Govt in Westminster would never get away with it. In Scotland the author seems to think the SNP can do what they want because Nationalism trumps democracy and there is no effective opposition. Also blames Tony Blair for giving Scotland devolved powers but not making Scotland accountable for raising the revenue to support those powers. Said Scotland was heading towards Failed State status. It seems the author is not a fan of the SNP and thinks the Tories and Labour need to work together to stop the SNP from ruining Scotland (and the Union). Are things really as bad up there as the Telegraph journalist believes? I think Nicola Sturgeon, as far as the legal technicalities are concerned, hopes the general attitude is the same as applied to Johnson’s proroguing of Parliament ie not many people care, the big picture is what matters.... Brexit for Johnson, Independence for Sturgeon. Sturgeon’s situation is more complicated than Johnson’s though. Because she is embroiled in a civil war with her predecessor that has created a chasm in the independence movement. Check out the arch independence campaign group Wings Over Scotland to see how vitriolic that has become. This article for example, Lying Liar Lies Again, is one of several that are highly critical. It concludes by saying... The First Minister is a liar and has all but given up on even the most token pretence otherwise. She is a disgrace to Scotland. Ouch! The bottom line is either Sturgeon or Salmond will be sleeping with the fishes (politically) when this affair reached a conclusion... possibly both. Whether that has any impact on the momentum that has been established for independence is another matter. Time will tell as far as that is concerned.
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Post by swampmongrel on Feb 25, 2021 19:06:00 GMT
The fundraisers at the Donna Louise must absolutely love this message board😂
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Feb 25, 2021 23:47:23 GMT
Sovereignty
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Post by tuum on Feb 26, 2021 4:26:14 GMT
Of course not, it's a DT opinion piece designed to appeal to its audience in much the same way that any newspaper Op-ed does. Look at the polling figures, they wouldn't be so demonstrably in favour of the SNP if Scotland was in the 'mess' the DT would like its readers to believe! Although there is some validity to the idea that, thanks to Brexit, the Scots have taken a leaf out of the Brexiteers book and now think fuck it, that's all that really matters... In short, it's trying to do what the DT always does whenever a Tory govt does something which might turn out bad - find somebody else to blame. Presumably the author overlooked Bluffer's unlawful pro-roguing of parliament...! With Covid, the blame has been firmly on the NHS, PHE and latterly us, the people. With Scottish Independence, it is of course with the SNP, not the fact that Brexit (a predominantly Tory-driven idea) has given independence a massive shot in the arm and may well lead to the break up of the Union and provided separatists with the perfect demonstration of why they should go it alone.[/quote] =================================== In my defence I should say that I am not a regular DT reader and certainly do not subscribe. I was at the British Club in Bangkok watching the cricket but they always have a good selection of UK and Commonwealth newspapers for reading. Don't recall seeing The Guardian or The Observer though. Average age of the members yesterday at the BC was about 78 so not surprising I suppose.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 26, 2021 8:15:16 GMT
The fundraisers at the Donna Louise must absolutely love this message board😂 Nice bit of publicity for them! Sadly, scfcbiancorossi is all mouth and no trousers and never takes me up on the bets I offer him which challenge the hyperbolic nonsense in his posts! So, they don't actually get to relieve him of his cash unfortunately!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 26, 2021 8:19:55 GMT
Of course not, it's a DT opinion piece designed to appeal to its audience in much the same way that any newspaper Op-ed does. Look at the polling figures, they wouldn't be so demonstrably in favour of the SNP if Scotland was in the 'mess' the DT would like its readers to believe! Although there is some validity to the idea that, thanks to Brexit, the Scots have taken a leaf out of the Brexiteers book and now think fuck it, that's all that really matters... In short, it's trying to do what the DT always does whenever a Tory govt does something which might turn out bad - find somebody else to blame. Presumably the author overlooked Bluffer's unlawful pro-roguing of parliament...! With Covid, the blame has been firmly on the NHS, PHE and latterly us, the people. With Scottish Independence, it is of course with the SNP, not the fact that Brexit (a predominantly Tory-driven idea) has given independence a massive shot in the arm and may well lead to the break up of the Union and provided separatists with the perfect demonstration of why they should go it alone. =================================== In my defence I should say that I am not a regular DT reader and certainly do not subscribe. I was at the British Club in Bangkok watching the cricket but they always have a good selection of UK and Commonwealth newspapers for reading. Don't recall seeing The Guardian or The Observer though. Average age of the members yesterday at the BC was about 78 so not surprising I suppose.[/quote] I do read the DT regularly. I think it's well put together, contains opinions and political leanings I don't necessarily agree with but want to read, the sport and crossword are good and the letters page is hilariously bonkers! Any of the four quality newspapers are worth reading. The tabloids are, without exception, garbage for morons. No idea what happened to the quote function there!
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 26, 2021 9:51:28 GMT
Of course not, it's a DT opinion piece designed to appeal to its audience in much the same way that any newspaper Op-ed does. Look at the polling figures, they wouldn't be so demonstrably in favour of the SNP if Scotland was in the 'mess' the DT would like its readers to believe! Although there is some validity to the idea that, thanks to Brexit, the Scots have taken a leaf out of the Brexiteers book and now think fuck it, that's all that really matters... In short, it's trying to do what the DT always does whenever a Tory govt does something which might turn out bad - find somebody else to blame. Presumably the author overlooked Bluffer's unlawful pro-roguing of parliament...! With Covid, the blame has been firmly on the NHS, PHE and latterly us, the people. With Scottish Independence, it is of course with the SNP, not the fact that Brexit (a predominantly Tory-driven idea) has given independence a massive shot in the arm and may well lead to the break up of the Union and provided separatists with the perfect demonstration of why they should go it alone. =================================== In my defence I should say that I am not a regular DT reader and certainly do not subscribe. I was at the British Club in Bangkok watching the cricket but they always have a good selection of UK and Commonwealth newspapers for reading. Don't recall seeing The Guardian or The Observer though. Average age of the members yesterday at the BC was about 78 so not surprising I suppose. I do read the DT regularly. I think it's well put together, contains opinions and political leanings I don't necessarily agree with but want to read, the sport and crossword are good and the letters page is hilariously bonkers! Any of the four quality newspapers are worth reading. The tabloids are, without exception, garbage for morons. No idea what happened to the quote function there![/quote] Used to read the daily telegraph on a regular basis the sport coverage was absolutely brilliant Reached a point where sadly I could no longer justify the price Still occasionally glance at a old copy when a mate drops them round As a broad sheet makes it a ideal size for lining the bottom of my pigeon baskets
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Post by noustie on Feb 26, 2021 10:45:01 GMT
Fuck me that's a bold statement - I'm not sure she'll see out the next fortnight! I get the feeling she’s either gone in two weeks or here for the next two decades!! I think she's either gone by the end of next week or will step aside fairly early post May being replaced by a limited sycophant. Rumours seem to be kicking about that Joanna Cherry is going to get involved with another Independence Party. From my side of the fence it's definately needed as no way can one party carry 50% of votes without it being unhealthy for democracy. It would also act as a checks n balance too so if one did something too bat shit mental then the other would hoover up the votes. If their was a party ran by Cherry plus Ruth Davidson, although I think she's fairly limited and gets an easy ride, back for the tories at least there would be some semblance of opposition. Wheels have come off over the last 4 years because how easy they have it.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 26, 2021 12:29:02 GMT
I get the feeling she’s either gone in two weeks or here for the next two decades!! I think she's either gone by the end of next week or will step aside fairly early post May being replaced by a limited sycophant. Rumours seem to be kicking about that Joanna Cherry is going to get involved with another Independence Party. From my side of the fence it's definately needed as no way can one party carry 50% of votes without it being unhealthy for democracy. It would also act as a checks n balance too so if one did something too bat shit mental then the other would hoover up the votes. If their was a party ran by Cherry plus Ruth Davidson, although I think she's fairly limited and gets an easy ride, back for the tories at least there would be some semblance of opposition. Wheels have come off over the last 4 years because how easy they have it. Naah! Most of the country is behind her. She's got ridiculous approval ratings. She'll get a thumping win in May, and then lead the push for another Independence referendum over the next couple of years, once Covid has settled down a bit, providing a headache for whoever is in charge of the Tories then! Once the Tory govt turns down their referendum claim, it'll shore up her popularity north of the border and provide further evidence that it's elite, distant, Brexit Tory Westminster vs Remain, local, independent Scottish people. I wouldn't be surprised if they held their own (obviously non-binding) referendum regardless of whether the Tories grant a second one. If they did and it came back as 60/40, which it might, with the added votes from the Tories having said no, the UK government can hardly refuse another vote. I agree about Davidson, one of the best Tories in the UK, let alone Scotland.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 26, 2021 12:55:48 GMT
I think she's either gone by the end of next week or will step aside fairly early post May being replaced by a limited sycophant. Rumours seem to be kicking about that Joanna Cherry is going to get involved with another Independence Party. From my side of the fence it's definately needed as no way can one party carry 50% of votes without it being unhealthy for democracy. It would also act as a checks n balance too so if one did something too bat shit mental then the other would hoover up the votes. If their was a party ran by Cherry plus Ruth Davidson, although I think she's fairly limited and gets an easy ride, back for the tories at least there would be some semblance of opposition. Wheels have come off over the last 4 years because how easy they have it. Naah! Most of the country is behind her. She's got ridiculous approval ratings. She'll get a thumping win in May, and then lead the push for another Independence referendum over the next couple of years, once Covid has settled down a bit, providing a headache for whoever is in charge of the Tories then! Once the Tory govt turns down their referendum claim, it'll shore up her popularity north of the border and provide further evidence that it's elite, distant, Brexit Tory Westminster vs Remain, local, independent Scottish people. I wouldn't be surprised if they held their own (obviously non-binding) referendum regardless of whether the Tories grant a second one. If they did and it came back as 60/40, which it might, with the added votes from the Tories having said no, the UK government can hardly refuse another vote. I agree about Davidson, one of the best Tories in the UK, let alone Scotland. I suspect you are right - as far as Sturgeon’s electoral prospects. She is truly incredible - the worse she is the more popular she becomes. It is extraordinary. I seriously doubt anything arising from the Salmond affair will stick. That said, all political life end in failure, often precipitant failure. So who knows, she may well come a cropper. We will find out soon enough.
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Post by felonious on Feb 26, 2021 14:10:54 GMT
Naah! Most of the country is behind her. She's got ridiculous approval ratings. She'll get a thumping win in May, and then lead the push for another Independence referendum over the next couple of years, once Covid has settled down a bit, providing a headache for whoever is in charge of the Tories then! Once the Tory govt turns down their referendum claim, it'll shore up her popularity north of the border and provide further evidence that it's elite, distant, Brexit Tory Westminster vs Remain, local, independent Scottish people. I wouldn't be surprised if they held their own (obviously non-binding) referendum regardless of whether the Tories grant a second one. If they did and it came back as 60/40, which it might, with the added votes from the Tories having said no, the UK government can hardly refuse another vote. I agree about Davidson, one of the best Tories in the UK, let alone Scotland. I suspect you are right - as far as Sturgeon’s electoral prospects. She is truly incredible - the worse she is the more popular she becomes. It is extraordinary. I seriously doubt anything arising from the Salmond affair will stick. That said, all political life end in failure, often precipitant failure. So who knows, she may well come a cropper. We will find out soon enough. Surely the Salmond affairs Partick? or were these 9 different women making 13 different complaints part of the conspiracy? I suspect because of his behaviour the SNP were put in an unenviable position of having to deal with a sexual harrassment case of this magnitude. It appears from all the politicking going on that these women have been forgotten.
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Post by partickpotter on Feb 26, 2021 14:46:15 GMT
I suspect you are right - as far as Sturgeon’s electoral prospects. She is truly incredible - the worse she is the more popular she becomes. It is extraordinary. I seriously doubt anything arising from the Salmond affair will stick. That said, all political life end in failure, often precipitant failure. So who knows, she may well come a cropper. We will find out soon enough. Surely the Salmond affairs Partick? or were these 9 different women making 13 different complaints part of the conspiracy? I suspect because of his behaviour the SNP were put in an unenviable position of having to deal with a sexual harrassment case of this magnitude. It appears from all the politicking going on that these women have been forgotten. You may have forgotten he was cleared of all charges.. And that is not about what the current stramash is about - leastways not directly. What is under scrutiny isn’t Salmond but the Scottish Government and its processes that led to Salmond’s day in court. It’s not going back over the court case.
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Post by felonious on Feb 26, 2021 15:37:58 GMT
Surely the Salmond affairs Partick? or were these 9 different women making 13 different complaints part of the conspiracy? I suspect because of his behaviour the SNP were put in an unenviable position of having to deal with a sexual harrassment case of this magnitude. It appears from all the politicking going on that these women have been forgotten. You may have forgotten he was cleared of all charges.. And that is not about what the current stramash is about - leastways not directly. What is under scrutiny isn’t Salmond but the Scottish Government and its processes that led to Salmond’s day in court. It’s not going back over the court case. I clearly haven't forgotten he was cleared of all charges do you think that 9 separate women were involved in a conspiracy or clearly deluded that a man in a considerable position of power was making unwarranted advances towards them? Has Metoo reached the natives North of the border I repeat these women seem to have been completely overlooked in the current stramash.
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