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Post by partickpotter on Apr 29, 2021 9:46:49 GMT
Meanwhile back on topic... Worst polling for Yes since 2019 as SNP support continues to drop, poll showsIs the electoral worm turning? The sectarianisation of Scottish politics over the past 10+ years has been something of a disaster for Scotland as education, health and the economy has taken a back seat to constitutional affairs. Since the last referendum, and even more so since Brexit, the independence argument has basically been Boris is a buffoon, Nicola is a saint. Everything else has been ignored. It’s not really been very satisfactory.
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Post by adri2008 on Apr 29, 2021 10:09:06 GMT
Meanwhile back on topic... Worst polling for Yes since 2019 as SNP support continues to drop, poll showsIs the electoral worm turning? The sectarianisation of Scottish politics over the past 10+ years has been something of a disaster for Scotland as education, health and the economy has taken a back seat to constitutional affairs. Since the last referendum, and even more so since Brexit, the independence argument has basically been Boris is a buffoon, Nicola is a saint. Everything else has been ignored. It’s not really been very satisfactory. The SNP have been in a sweet spot where all good things are due to them and all bad things are due those rotten Tories down in Westminster holding the country back. I think another referendum should be granted to put the issue to bed one way or another.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Apr 29, 2021 10:25:31 GMT
"Demands for a second independence referendum are likely to intensify regardless of these numbers, however, with pro-independence parties set for a controlling majority in Holyrood, the poll shows".
Doesn't sounds like a disaster, if you're pro-independence.
Bluffer will still say no, the SNP will probably hold their own anyway in 2023...then the UK government will have to concede to a second referendum.
Then the real fun starts!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 8, 2021 15:13:25 GMT
Blimey, it's a good job they have regional lists filled on a PR basis in Scotland, if you're pro-union that is.
Current state of affairs for the FPTP constituencies:
SNP 58 Con 5 LD 4 Lab 2
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Post by kidcrewbob on May 8, 2021 17:38:19 GMT
Give em a referendum right now - any delay will only strengthen their position .........
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Post by felonious on May 8, 2021 17:51:12 GMT
"It's the will of the people"...... over to you Partick
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 8, 2021 17:57:11 GMT
Get it done Scotland. As we have learned Democracy is sacrosanct. The nation has spoken. I'm sure such a committed democrat such as Johnson would agree?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 9, 2021 7:30:16 GMT
Get it done Scotland. As we have learned Democracy is sacrosanct. The nation has spoken. I'm sure such a committed democrat such as Johnson would agree? Interested to see the Daily Mail headline if the referendum bid goes to court and the judges rule against the will of the people..! Not a bad endorsement for someone who was finished according to the collective Oatcake wisdom just a few pages back...!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 22, 2021 17:52:11 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on May 22, 2021 19:28:56 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 22, 2021 19:30:39 GMT
Just think one day we could see a Scottish Eurovision entry
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on May 23, 2021 6:33:14 GMT
Presumably trying the man of the people non-elitist approach that fooled so many people for Farage!
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 3, 2021 19:44:31 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 5, 2021 10:48:02 GMT
That'll certainly make him even more popular with the Scots! Not that they'll vote for independence when it comes down to it. I think they prefer moaning about how Westminster and the English in general ruin their lives, rather than actually being masters of their own destiny!
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Post by thevoid on Aug 5, 2021 12:06:29 GMT
Yep, the flag shaggers were out in force that day!
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Post by Northy on Sept 6, 2021 9:08:37 GMT
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 6, 2021 16:33:13 GMT
What does the article mean when it says he has "warned" Nicola Sturgeon? Surely, if independence is Brexit times 10, that's a fantastic success for Scotland, full of sovereignty, opportunities and sunlit uplands...
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 6, 2021 17:42:16 GMT
What does the article mean when it says he has "warned" Nicola Sturgeon? Surely, if independence is Brexit times 10, that's a fantastic success for Scotland, full of sovereignty, opportunities and sunlit uplands... I couldn’t agree more Really looking forward to the day the English tax payer stops funding there alleged socialist utopia
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Post by ashleyscfc on Sept 6, 2021 22:30:56 GMT
What does the article mean when it says he has "warned" Nicola Sturgeon? Surely, if independence is Brexit times 10, that's a fantastic success for Scotland, full of sovereignty, opportunities and sunlit uplands... I couldn’t agree more Really looking forward to the day the English tax payer stops funding there alleged socialist utopia Would you be happy funding some of those things for the English?
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 7, 2021 5:11:20 GMT
I couldn’t agree more Really looking forward to the day the English tax payer stops funding there alleged socialist utopia Would you be happy funding some of those things for the English? Yes I’d happily see social care free at point of use And maybe half the cost of prescriptions As for free university courses no there’s two many now going to university on pointless degrees
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 7, 2021 12:22:28 GMT
Would you be happy funding some of those things for the English? Yes I’d happily see social care free at point of use And maybe half the cost of prescriptions As for free university courses no there’s two many now going to university on pointless degrees And how would you fund free social care and half-price prescriptions?
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 7, 2021 13:41:13 GMT
Yes I’d happily see social care free at point of use And maybe half the cost of prescriptions As for free university courses no there’s two many now going to university on pointless degrees And how would you fund free social care and half-price prescriptions? Well according to a article in the guardian in 2019 money spent by uk government in Scotland was 75.3 billion Money received by revenue was 62.7 So a deficit of around 12.6 billion So if Scotland became independent this sum would be saved So if we gave free prescriptions for all it would cost approximately 600 million So that would leave around 12 billion a year towards social care
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Post by prestwichpotter on Sept 9, 2021 14:58:31 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Sept 16, 2021 13:06:23 GMT
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 16, 2021 14:48:02 GMT
He’s not a happy bunny… But he’s not the first Scottish politician to recently take a tumble… On that occasion he did manage to see the funny side… Pride, on this occasion, comes after as well as before a fall.
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 17, 2021 9:11:45 GMT
He’s not a happy bunny… But he’s not the first Scottish politician to recently take a tumble… On that occasion he did manage to see the funny side… Pride, on this occasion, comes after as well as before a fall. 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by franklin on Sept 17, 2021 12:41:58 GMT
He’s not a happy bunny… But he’s not the first Scottish politician to recently take a tumble… On that occasion he did manage to see the funny side… Pride, on this occasion, comes after as well as before a fall. 🤣🤣🤣 This ^ 😂😂😂
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Sept 17, 2021 16:43:31 GMT
Why was the idiot going so fast! Not only did he come a right cropper, he was making his aide run after him, serves him right, the inconsiderate sod!
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 18, 2021 5:54:02 GMT
Why was the idiot going so fast! Not only did he come a right cropper, he was making his aide run after him, serves him right, the inconsiderate sod! Well he was going faster than the Scottish ambulances he’s responsible for
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 20, 2021 11:26:26 GMT
Make of this what you can… Scottish independence: Lead for No, but Scots only back referendum if Westminster agreeNot very encouraging for the independence folk although it is still tight. The point is that despite Brexit and a sustained period in office of a Tory government in Westminster a large part of which has been under the premiership of the buffoon bumbling Boris, nothing seems to have changed in folks opinion since 2014. Grievance doesn’t seem to be a particularly effective strategy.
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