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Post by potterburt on Nov 29, 2020 1:03:30 GMT
Holy Jesus Christ....
We are the only local radio station in the bbc namedâ after a town/city, every other station is named after a county. Consider your self lucky you miserable bunch that your lumped in sharing equal airtime to Stafford rangers etc or - as the annoyance with Crewe, maybe we should be lumped in with radio Shropshire and get a good solid 3 mins after the Shrewsbury game?
Ange is there because sheâs committed, consistent and... well doing it as opposed to winging on here like a spoilt little brat that isnât eating their mash potato because it was to lumpy. You all think thereâs any budget in local radio to âpayâ for ex players?
Get off your dreary miserable moaning thrones and maybe instead try putting that effort into something productive.... might actually get what you want. This is such a sorry dreary drivel of thread...,,
Oh yeah, and as previously mentioned, please all record yourselves for a whole 90 minutes and letâs see where we end up... đ¤Śđťââď¸
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Post by theteacher on Nov 29, 2020 1:14:04 GMT
I donât want to get personal and I wonât but radio Stoke has turned from being a must listen to a must avoid for all things Stoke City. From Praise and Grumble to match commentary through to the interview itâs just so poor and the radio station needs to have a long hard look at what it is dishing up. This is the first season in living memory where I just cannot listen to the station and itâs really disappointing. Sorry for saying this but it is just my honest opinion.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2020 1:21:42 GMT
Holy Jesus Christ.... We are the only local radio station in the bbc namedâ after a town/city, every other station is named after a county. Consider your self lucky you miserable bunch that your lumped in sharing equal airtime to Stafford rangers etc or - as the annoyance with Crewe, maybe we should be lumped in with radio Shropshire and get a good solid 3 mins after the Shrewsbury game? Ange is there because sheâs committed, consistent and... well doing it as opposed to winging on here like a spoilt little brat that isnât eating their mash potato because it was to lumpy. You all think thereâs any budget in local radio to âpayâ for ex players? Get off your dreary miserable moaning thrones and maybe instead try putting that effort into something productive.... might actually get what you want. This is such a sorry dreary drivel of thread...,, Oh yeah, and as previously mentioned, please all record yourselves for a whole 90 minutes and letâs see where we end up... đ¤Śđťââď¸ The voice of reason đ
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Post by potterburt on Nov 29, 2020 1:26:45 GMT
No one has really said....,
....what it is that they actually do want....?
Thereâs been so much chat and frantic finger taping to show most definitely what they do not want form radiostoke. Fair enough, the usually sentiment from folk on this forum is to vocalise as to most definitively what they most whole heartedly do not want because they might vomit consistently for ever more and this is their only outlet which will ensure that that does not happen, it must be hard..... but....
Just wondering though, what is it that would be wanted instead?
Maybe some jingles? Bake off completion at half time between ex-stoke players? Liam Lawrence enduring putting his head in a box of cockroaches while commenting?
Skyâs the limit folks, but after skimming through I didnât see any suggestions that were on the terms of improving anything.
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Post by potterburt on Nov 29, 2020 1:28:15 GMT
Holy Jesus Christ.... We are the only local radio station in the bbc namedâ after a town/city, every other station is named after a county. Consider your self lucky you miserable bunch that your lumped in sharing equal airtime to Stafford rangers etc or - as the annoyance with Crewe, maybe we should be lumped in with radio Shropshire and get a good solid 3 mins after the Shrewsbury game? Ange is there because sheâs committed, consistent and... well doing it as opposed to winging on here like a spoilt little brat that isnât eating their mash potato because it was to lumpy. You all think thereâs any budget in local radio to âpayâ for ex players? Get off your dreary miserable moaning thrones and maybe instead try putting that effort into something productive.... might actually get what you want. This is such a sorry dreary drivel of thread...,, Oh yeah, and as previously mentioned, please all record yourselves for a whole 90 minutes and letâs see where we end up... đ¤Śđťââď¸ The voice of reason đ And then Just the voice... Just the voice.. The voice that keeps on sucking away at everyoneâs life sources.........
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Post by onefatcopper on Nov 29, 2020 1:56:03 GMT
Just amateur hour. Why do they have Angela Smith on for every Stoke game now? Nobody wants to listen to her. Go back to tea, biscuits and freebies with Tone! Itâs like listening to your Granny talking about sex. You just donât need it so you. đđ Iâve made a small fortune from my old grans chats on the phone to her clientele, she just gets confused why everyone is so concerned about a grey cat ?
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Post by newsteadst3 on Nov 29, 2020 6:35:06 GMT
I donât want to get personal and I wonât but radio Stoke has turned from being a must listen to a must avoid for all things Stoke City. From Praise and Grumble to match commentary through to the interview itâs just so poor and the radio station needs to have a long hard look at what it is dishing up. This is the first season in living memory where I just cannot listen to the station and itâs really disappointing. Sorry for saying this but it is just my honest opinion. It's the arrogance of them all annoys me, there is not even any football people anymore talking about the match. It really is very poor, but the other quirks on other shows are as bad The mind bogler, The Hum dinger, Celebrity Birthdays.
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Post by stokienorthants on Nov 29, 2020 9:01:07 GMT
Holy Jesus Christ.... We are the only local radio station in the bbc namedâ after a town/city, every other station is named after a county. Consider your self lucky you miserable bunch that your lumped in sharing equal airtime to Stafford rangers etc or - as the annoyance with Crewe, maybe we should be lumped in with radio Shropshire and get a good solid 3 mins after the Shrewsbury game? Ange is there because sheâs committed, consistent and... well doing it as opposed to winging on here like a spoilt little brat that isnât eating their mash potato because it was to lumpy. You all think thereâs any budget in local radio to âpayâ for ex players? Get off your dreary miserable moaning thrones and maybe instead try putting that effort into something productive.... might actually get what you want. This is such a sorry dreary drivel of thread...,, Oh yeah, and as previously mentioned, please all record yourselves for a whole 90 minutes and letâs see where we end up... đ¤Śđťââď¸ I donât disagree with your comments but have you conveniently forgotten about radio Leicester Derby Leeds and Newcastle? Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument!
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Post by questionable on Nov 29, 2020 9:17:03 GMT
Gave up listening years ago, I found it a little entertaining at first trying to fathom out what NJ was actually talking about but eventually he became a complete dithering fool and to much, if Iâm out and about in the car and thereâs commentary on as soon as that woman with the boring self opinionated voice comes on I immediately select another station.
Daft as it sounds on occasions I prefer to listen to radio commentary as it reminds me of when I was younger but Iâd never listen to Radio Stoke in a million years as itâs, well pathetic.
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Post by bertjones on Nov 29, 2020 9:50:24 GMT
but eventually he became a complete dithering fool Your opinion maybe that he is not be very good, but you can't just say that can you, and like others on this board, you hide behind a anonymous username and a keyboard and show just what you are with uncalled for abuse. So I am hiding behind my username and calling you a complete and utter w@nker!
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 29, 2020 9:59:08 GMT
It has to be the worst Radio phone in show ever, the pundits are shocking, no-one asks any pertinent questions when they have the chance. It is good for comedy value lately though and our gorgeous Ange is the only shining light Gouranga. Youâre a big man arenât you? And very funny. What does it say about a man though if he takes pleasure in bullying a woman. And not bullying in person, but bullying from behind his keyboard.
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 29, 2020 10:02:24 GMT
No ones saying she isn't/doesn't . They are being cuntish though. H Thereâs one particular poster who that word is almost too good for. Gouranga.
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Post by shipshape on Nov 29, 2020 10:04:19 GMT
Holy Jesus Christ.... We are the only local radio station in the bbc namedâ after a town/city, every other station is named after a county. Consider your self lucky you miserable bunch that your lumped in sharing equal airtime to Stafford rangers etc or - as the annoyance with Crewe, maybe we should be lumped in with radio Shropshire and get a good solid 3 mins after the Shrewsbury game? Ange is there because sheâs committed, consistent and... well doing it as opposed to winging on here like a spoilt little brat that isnât eating their mash potato because it was to lumpy. You all think thereâs any budget in local radio to âpayâ for ex players? Get off your dreary miserable moaning thrones and maybe instead try putting that effort into something productive.... might actually get what you want. This is such a sorry dreary drivel of thread...,, Oh yeah, and as previously mentioned, please all record yourselves for a whole 90 minutes and letâs see where we end up... đ¤Śđťââď¸ I donât disagree with your comments but have you conveniently forgotten about radio Leicester Derby Leeds and Newcastle? Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument! Or even Bristol and Sheffield.
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Post by bolly_premprem on Nov 29, 2020 10:10:42 GMT
What can they even talk about regarding stoke? The weather? It was the football equivalent of painting your walls beige while listening to a podcast about the best type of toilet seat hinges then watching said beige paint dry Actually,. What are the best toilet seat hinges....I could do b with listening to that of cast....
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Post by StaffordPotter on Nov 29, 2020 10:16:17 GMT
It has to be the worst Radio phone in show ever, the pundits are shocking, no-one asks any pertinent questions when they have the chance. It is good for comedy value lately though and our gorgeous Ange is the only shining light Gouranga. Youâre a big man arenât you? And very funny. What does it say about a man though if he takes pleasure in bullying a woman. And not bullying in person, but bullying from behind his keyboard. It's hardly a "bullying" comment is it. Or is not liking someone bullying these days? Some people need to get a grip.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Nov 29, 2020 10:23:09 GMT
No one has really said...., ....what it is that they actually do want....? Thereâs been so much chat and frantic finger taping to show most definitely what they do not want form radiostoke. Fair enough, the usually sentiment from folk on this forum is to vocalise as to most definitively what they most whole heartedly do not want because they might vomit consistently for ever more and this is their only outlet which will ensure that that does not happen, it must be hard..... but.... Just wondering though, what is it that would be wanted instead? Maybe some jingles? Bake off completion at half time between ex-stoke players? Liam Lawrence enduring putting his head in a box of cockroaches while commenting? Skyâs the limit folks, but after skimming through I didnât see any suggestions that were on the terms of improving anything. How about we start with a commentator who can identify the players correctly, identify the team Stoke are playing correctly and make a reasonable attempt at pronouncing the players names correctly? Its clear they donât do any research on the opposition before the game. We were told that Michael McGovern was an inexperienced goalkeeper on Tuesday despite the fact heâs made 366 club career appearances and earned 32 caps for Northern Ireland. We were also subject to Mbwem, Ermbem, Merbem, Mwebo, Ermbwain, Mbuemo against Brentford. How hard is it to run through the team sheet in the hour before kick off? Perhaps they could have a summariser with a bit of football experience? Change those 2 things and the show becomes a whole lot more listenable. The anchor doesnât make too much difference. No matter how articulate they are, thereâll always be numpties calling in. One of my favourites last season âthat Nathan Jones was rubbish, he got rid of 2 of my favourite players. Crouchie and er er another player!â
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Post by potterburt on Nov 29, 2020 11:01:35 GMT
No one has really said...., ....what it is that they actually do want....? Thereâs been so much chat and frantic finger taping to show most definitely what they do not want form radiostoke. Fair enough, the usually sentiment from folk on this forum is to vocalise as to most definitively what they most whole heartedly do not want because they might vomit consistently for ever more and this is their only outlet which will ensure that that does not happen, it must be hard..... but.... Just wondering though, what is it that would be wanted instead? Maybe some jingles? Bake off completion at half time between ex-stoke players? Liam Lawrence enduring putting his head in a box of cockroaches while commenting? Skyâs the limit folks, but after skimming through I didnât see any suggestions that were on the terms of improving anything. How about we start with a commentator who can identify the players correctly, identify the team Stoke are playing correctly and make a reasonable attempt at pronouncing the players names correctly? Its clear they donât do any research on the opposition before the game. We were told that Michael McGovern was an inexperienced goalkeeper on Tuesday despite the fact heâs made 366 club career appearances and earned 32 caps for Northern Ireland. We were also subject to Mbwem, Ermbem, Merbem, Mwebo, Ermbwain, Mbuemo against Brentford. How hard is it to run through the team sheet in the hour before kick off? Perhaps they could have a summariser with a bit of football experience? Change those 2 things and the show becomes a whole lot more listenable. The anchor doesnât make too much difference. No matter how articulate they are, thereâll always be numpties calling in. One of my favourites last season âthat Nathan Jones was rubbish, he got rid of 2 of my favourite players. Crouchie and er er another player!â Yeah, Agree, we could definitely do better in the commentator department. Itâs worrying. Luckily I only hear the commentary with the stream, otherwise Iâd be totally at a loss as whatâs going on. Iâm not in stoke so never been able to get local radio for âcontractual reasonsâ
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Post by potterburt on Nov 29, 2020 11:09:37 GMT
Holy Jesus Christ.... We are the only local radio station in the bbc namedâ after a town/city, every other station is named after a county. Consider your self lucky you miserable bunch that your lumped in sharing equal airtime to Stafford rangers etc or - as the annoyance with Crewe, maybe we should be lumped in with radio Shropshire and get a good solid 3 mins after the Shrewsbury game? Ange is there because sheâs committed, consistent and... well doing it as opposed to winging on here like a spoilt little brat that isnât eating their mash potato because it was to lumpy. You all think thereâs any budget in local radio to âpayâ for ex players? Get off your dreary miserable moaning thrones and maybe instead try putting that effort into something productive.... might actually get what you want. This is such a sorry dreary drivel of thread...,, Oh yeah, and as previously mentioned, please all record yourselves for a whole 90 minutes and letâs see where we end up... đ¤Śđťââď¸ I donât disagree with your comments but have you conveniently forgotten about radio Leicester Derby Leeds and Newcastle? Never let the facts get in the way of a good argument! Leicester shire / Derby shire... thereâs isnât bbc Northumberland so Newcastle covers it but yeah ok, I get your point, not exclusively Stoke as the only city. Always good to just pipe up with a jibe regarding a detail and lend nothing to a conversation.
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 29, 2020 11:10:39 GMT
Youâre a big man arenât you? And very funny. What does it say about a man though if he takes pleasure in bullying a woman. And not bullying in person, but bullying from behind his keyboard. It's hardly a "bullying" comment is it. Or is not liking someone bullying these days? Some people need to get a grip. It is when put in context of the image and comment he posted a couple of weeks ago. Followed by his non apology. I assume his wink emoji was a âsophisticated humorous nodâ to his previous comments.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 29, 2020 11:21:09 GMT
It's hardly a "bullying" comment is it. Or is not liking someone bullying these days? Some people need to get a grip. It is when put in context of the image and comment he posted a couple of weeks ago. Followed by his non apology. I assume his wink emoji was a âsophisticated humorous nodâ to his previous comments. Yes it was. We all know the apology wasn't really an apology and that confirms it.
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Post by newsteadst3 on Nov 29, 2020 11:26:10 GMT
No one has really said...., ....what it is that they actually do want....? Thereâs been so much chat and frantic finger taping to show most definitely what they do not want form radiostoke. Fair enough, the usually sentiment from folk on this forum is to vocalise as to most definitively what they most whole heartedly do not want because they might vomit consistently for ever more and this is their only outlet which will ensure that that does not happen, it must be hard..... but.... Just wondering though, what is it that would be wanted instead? Maybe some jingles? Bake off completion at half time between ex-stoke players? Liam Lawrence enduring putting his head in a box of cockroaches while commenting? Skyâs the limit folks, but after skimming through I didnât see any suggestions that were on the terms of improving anything. How about we start with a commentator who can identify the players correctly, identify the team Stoke are playing correctly and make a reasonable attempt at pronouncing the players names correctly? Its clear they donât do any research on the opposition before the game. We were told that Michael McGovern was an inexperienced goalkeeper on Tuesday despite the fact heâs made 366 club career appearances and earned 32 caps for Northern Ireland. We were also subject to Mbwem, Ermbem, Merbem, Mwebo, Ermbwain, Mbuemo against Brentford. How hard is it to run through the team sheet in the hour before kick off? Perhaps they could have a summariser with a bit of football experience? Change those 2 things and the show becomes a whole lot more listenable. The anchor doesnât make too much difference. No matter how articulate they are, thereâll always be numpties calling in. One of my favourites last season âthat Nathan Jones was rubbish, he got rid of 2 of my favourite players. Crouchie and er er another player!â Yeah it's not too difficult to have a search around find a bit about the opositon. They should really have a idea anyway given they will have seen these players before. Remember one game them telling us the sub coming on "can be a good player" yet didn't say who he was. Work that one out
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 29, 2020 11:31:53 GMT
It is when put in context of the image and comment he posted a couple of weeks ago. Followed by his non apology. I assume his wink emoji was a âsophisticated humorous nodâ to his previous comments. Yes it was. We all know the apology wasn't really an apology and that confirms it. Lurking under his rock, waiting for the chance to get the sneaky sly dig in.
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Post by OldStokie on Nov 29, 2020 11:34:47 GMT
This is what TP does to us. His dross makes us all so angry we lash out at anything. RS had to juggle three games, including extra time in one, for almost 6 hours, and all this while some of the presenters are working from home. The only thing that pissed me off was the voice of Graham McGarry. But he's always done that since he took great delight in the opposition scoring against us. And even Our Nige gets stick from some. He deserves a medal for his devotion to his/our club. While you were all at home drinking your beers or supping whatever takes your fancy and watching your streams or listening to the wireless, he actually had to sit in the cold and damp and watch that appalling dross yesterday. The poor bloke must have had to take a large dose of anti-depressants when he finally got home.
Ferfuxache, get a grip!
OS.
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Post by oldschool on Nov 29, 2020 11:52:06 GMT
Wow!
Ok. Back to Radio Stoke and the issue of Angela Smith.
In my opinion she shouldnât be on as an âexpertâ giving analysis! Weâve always had ex players doing that role. Why do we now have to have the head of the supporters council who seems to be reflected every time?
She isnât an expert. Sheâs a fan. Like everyone else. If she wants to be on, she should ring in on praise and grumble like everyone else. I want to hear the opinions of ex players. People who have played the game. What they would do differently.
Unfortunately, to me, sheâs dreary and drones. She shouldnât be on as our expert.
I actually believe the club gave Lawrence a job to get him away from Radio Stoke. His views were totally honest and I honestly believe the club wanted him away from the airwaves.
If anyone wants to attack MY OPINION feel free. But before you do, make sure youâre not in a glass house throwing stones, and youâve never ever criticised anyone before.
Angle, you may be a top bird, and this isnât a personal attack. I just donât want to hear you as our expert any longer.
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Post by borges on Nov 29, 2020 12:03:09 GMT
I think the most galling thing regarding Radio Stoke's coverage is that it could be so much better, even if there was no change in personnel. There's a real lack of imagination and (as someone above said) basic preparation for so much regarding the live commentaries. This has definitely been thrown into focus with the pairing of the local radio commentary and iFollow streams, but listening to our games on Radio Stoke has been maddening for a long time.
Why Nigel Johnson is still operating as a commentator, calling the action for 50% of the game is beyond me - he couldn't keep up with play yesterday, despite most of the game unfolding at a snail's pace. The constant mangling of opposition names is one thing, but to consistently mistake the Stoke players he watches every week just personifies the amateurish, "it'll do" attitude that pervades the programming. Speaking as someone who's had to listen to most of our post-relegation midweek games, it would be far better to have him as a co-commentator, using his experience and knowledge for a bit of colour alongside a lead commentator whose focus would be solely on calling the action as it happens, so that what's actually going on in the game is clear to the radio audience.
Compare to the comms on Crewe and Vale games, which I tend to have on during my drive home if we're not playing that night, and the commentator/co-commentator dynamic seems much more thought out and better applied, to the benefit of the listener. Admittedly, I don't have the same emotional investment in the game, but I find it's much easier to follow what's actually happening in the match because someone focuses on actually telling you who has the ball and where, as opposed to stopping every 5 seconds to correct themselves.
Regarding Angela's role - she seems to have been thrust into just being the general dogsbody for anything that needs doing, with no real thought to what she specifically could bring to the table. I'd much sooner have her as a consistent "fan's opinion" type pundit, but that's never going to happen when she has to deal with things like getting the line ups pre-game and has to have a working relationship with the coaching staff and club.
The different skillset that Liam Lawrence brought to the table - experience as a professional, a bit of insight into tactics etc. was a breath of fresh air compared to the usual stodge of a bit of commentary and a load of description of what the keepers are wearing that day. I thought Leon Cort v Millwall was very good too. I appreciate that there's budgets to contend with and ex-pros have often have other commitments (plus the need to minimise interactions with a varying cast of pundits due to coronavirus) but to me Radio Stoke should have a stable of 2 or 3 ex-pros who could be called upon on a consistent basis to actually give the listener something worth tuning in for.
I think there's so much complacency with regards to it being the only place to get full match commentary for every game, and thus having a captive audience, that there's no desire to actually think about how that matchday experience could be made better and actually make people want to listen to it. No-one's going to choose radio commentary over watching the game (live, streamed or on TV) but the reluctance or inability of Radio Stoke's match coverage to carve out a niche for itself regarding insight and analysis is such a missed opportunity, especially given the reduced national media clubs get outside the Premier League.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 29, 2020 13:53:57 GMT
I think the most galling thing regarding Radio Stoke's coverage is that it could be so much better, even if there was no change in personnel. There's a real lack of imagination and (as someone above said) basic preparation for so much regarding the live commentaries. This has definitely been thrown into focus with the pairing of the local radio commentary and iFollow streams, but listening to our games on Radio Stoke has been maddening for a long time. Why Nigel Johnson is still operating as a commentator, calling the action for 50% of the game is beyond me - he couldn't keep up with play yesterday, despite most of the game unfolding at a snail's pace. The constant mangling of opposition names is one thing, but to consistently mistake the Stoke players he watches every week just personifies the amateurish, "it'll do" attitude that pervades the programming. Speaking as someone who's had to listen to most of our post-relegation midweek games, it would be far better to have him as a co-commentator, using his experience and knowledge for a bit of colour alongside a lead commentator whose focus would be solely on calling the action as it happens, so that what's actually going on in the game is clear to the radio audience. Â Compare to the comms on Crewe and Vale games, which I tend to have on during my drive home if we're not playing that night, and the commentator/co-commentator dynamic seems much more thought out and better applied, to the benefit of the listener. Admittedly, I don't have the same emotional investment in the game, but I find it's much easier to follow what's actually happening in the match because someone focuses on actually telling you who has the ball and where, as opposed to stopping every 5 seconds to correct themselves. Regarding Angela's role - she seems to have been thrust into just being the general dogsbody for anything that needs doing, with no real thought to what she specifically could bring to the table. I'd much sooner have her as a consistent "fan's opinion" type pundit, but that's never going to happen when she has to deal with things like getting the line ups pre-game and has to have a working relationship with the coaching staff and club. The different skillset that Liam Lawrence brought to the table - experience as a professional, a bit of insight into tactics etc. was a breath of fresh air compared to the usual stodge of a bit of commentary and a load of description of what the keepers are wearing that day. I thought Leon Cort v Millwall was very good too. I appreciate that there's budgets to contend with and ex-pros have often have other commitments (plus the need to minimise interactions with a varying cast of pundits due to coronavirus) but to me Radio Stoke should have a stable of 2 or 3 ex-pros who could be called upon on a consistent basis to actually give the listener something worth tuning in for. I think there's so much complacency with regards to it being the only place to get full match commentary for every game, and thus having a captive audience, that there's no desire to actually think about how that matchday experience could be made better and actually make people want to listen to it. No-one's going to choose radio commentary over watching the game (live, streamed or on TV) but the reluctance or inability of Radio Stoke's match coverage to carve out a niche for itself regarding insight and analysis is such a missed opportunity, especially given the reduced national media clubs get outside the Premier League. Top post that mateđ
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Post by lordb on Nov 29, 2020 13:59:56 GMT
Wow! Ok. Back to Radio Stoke and the issue of Angela Smith. In my opinion she shouldnât be on as an âexpertâ giving analysis! Weâve always had ex players doing that role. Why do we now have to have the head of the supporters council who seems to be reflected every time? She isnât an expert. Sheâs a fan. Like everyone else. If she wants to be on, she should ring in on praise and grumble like everyone else. I want to hear the opinions of ex players. People who have played the game. What they would do differently. Unfortunately, to me, sheâs dreary and drones. She shouldnât be on as our expert. I actually believe the club gave Lawrence a job to get him away from Radio Stoke. His views were totally honest and I honestly believe the club wanted him away from the airwaves. If anyone wants to attack MY OPINION feel free. But before you do, make sure youâre not in a glass house throwing stones, and youâve never ever criticised anyone before. Angle, you may be a top bird, and this isnât a personal attack. I just donât want to hear you as our expert any longer. She's just as good as many ex players they have had on. I think people's expectations are way off. Radio Stoke budget will be buttons and will be significantly lower than it was 15/20 years ago. If they ever get anyone any good they will soon move on. Local radio sport is hanging by a thread.
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Post by flea79 on Nov 29, 2020 14:01:54 GMT
I think the most galling thing regarding Radio Stoke's coverage is that it could be so much better, even if there was no change in personnel. There's a real lack of imagination and (as someone above said) basic preparation for so much regarding the live commentaries. This has definitely been thrown into focus with the pairing of the local radio commentary and iFollow streams, but listening to our games on Radio Stoke has been maddening for a long time. Why Nigel Johnson is still operating as a commentator, calling the action for 50% of the game is beyond me - he couldn't keep up with play yesterday, despite most of the game unfolding at a snail's pace. The constant mangling of opposition names is one thing, but to consistently mistake the Stoke players he watches every week just personifies the amateurish, "it'll do" attitude that pervades the programming. Speaking as someone who's had to listen to most of our post-relegation midweek games, it would be far better to have him as a co-commentator, using his experience and knowledge for a bit of colour alongside a lead commentator whose focus would be solely on calling the action as it happens, so that what's actually going on in the game is clear to the radio audience. Compare to the comms on Crewe and Vale games, which I tend to have on during my drive home if we're not playing that night, and the commentator/co-commentator dynamic seems much more thought out and better applied, to the benefit of the listener. Admittedly, I don't have the same emotional investment in the game, but I find it's much easier to follow what's actually happening in the match because someone focuses on actually telling you who has the ball and where, as opposed to stopping every 5 seconds to correct themselves. Regarding Angela's role - she seems to have been thrust into just being the general dogsbody for anything that needs doing, with no real thought to what she specifically could bring to the table. I'd much sooner have her as a consistent "fan's opinion" type pundit, but that's never going to happen when she has to deal with things like getting the line ups pre-game and has to have a working relationship with the coaching staff and club. The different skillset that Liam Lawrence brought to the table - experience as a professional, a bit of insight into tactics etc. was a breath of fresh air compared to the usual stodge of a bit of commentary and a load of description of what the keepers are wearing that day. I thought Leon Cort v Millwall was very good too. I appreciate that there's budgets to contend with and ex-pros have often have other commitments (plus the need to minimise interactions with a varying cast of pundits due to coronavirus) but to me Radio Stoke should have a stable of 2 or 3 ex-pros who could be called upon on a consistent basis to actually give the listener something worth tuning in for. I think there's so much complacency with regards to it being the only place to get full match commentary for every game, and thus having a captive audience, that there's no desire to actually think about how that matchday experience could be made better and actually make people want to listen to it. No-one's going to choose radio commentary over watching the game (live, streamed or on TV) but the reluctance or inability of Radio Stoke's match coverage to carve out a niche for itself regarding insight and analysis is such a missed opportunity, especially given the reduced national media clubs get outside the Premier League. Canât disagree but hate the knocking of Nige. He is part of the furniture and like favourite old dog. There is something comforting and familiar about radio stokes coverage, Iâm probably not alone but I was an expat for a while and it listening to radio Stoke while abroad before and after games was really a link to home and the match. Sadly it probably does need to be updated and refreshed, and yes no more Lawrence has left a hole, maybe super jon could help out!
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Post by lagwafis on Nov 29, 2020 14:53:43 GMT
Wow! Ok. Back to Radio Stoke and the issue of Angela Smith. In my opinion she shouldnât be on as an âexpertâ giving analysis! Weâve always had ex players doing that role. Why do we now have to have the head of the supporters council who seems to be reflected every time? She isnât an expert. Sheâs a fan. Like everyone else. If she wants to be on, she should ring in on praise and grumble like everyone else. I want to hear the opinions of ex players. People who have played the game. What they would do differently. Unfortunately, to me, sheâs dreary and drones. She shouldnât be on as our expert. I actually believe the club gave Lawrence a job to get him away from Radio Stoke. His views were totally honest and I honestly believe the club wanted him away from the airwaves. If anyone wants to attack MY OPINION feel free. But before you do, make sure youâre not in a glass house throwing stones, and youâve never ever criticised anyone before. Angle, you may be a top bird, and this isnât a personal attack. I just donât want to hear you as our expert any longer. She's just as good as many ex players they have had on. I think people's expectations are way off. Radio Stoke budget will be buttons and will be significantly lower than it was 15/20 years ago. If they ever get anyone any good they will soon move on. Local radio sport is hanging by a thread. BBC England announced major job cuts back in July. They need to save ÂŁ25 million by 2022 and much of that will come from cutting back local services. Reach PLC (who control the Sentinel) also cut 550 jobs at the start of Q2.
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 29, 2020 15:38:56 GMT
Its only for one game, get over it. Bad enough been told to fuck off up the Vile. But when your told to fuck off up the Crwho youâve found a new level mate. ?
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