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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 28, 2020 21:17:21 GMT
Ange doesn't speak for me, but I was on her radio show a few times and she was nothing but polite and welcoming. Yes she has her opinion that often differs from mine but for fucks sake you don't have to be so cuntish, she's a decent lady that loves Stoke. H No ones saying she isn't/doesn't .
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Post by DC1863 on Nov 28, 2020 21:35:18 GMT
Why would BBC Bristol start talking about Yeovil when Yeovil are covered by BBC Somerset? Crewe arent covered by any other BBC station so that's obviously why they feature on ours. I dont wanna hear about them either but like it or not they've been on there for 20+ years. It's pretty obvious why they chose to air FA cup extra time live football over asking people to call in and talk about a 0-0 draw, rather petty thing to get riled up over if you ask me. I used them as an example. As you say, Yeovil are in a separate county as are Crewe to us so I'm not sure why Radio Stoke has to cover them at all. Cheshire's a big enough area to merit it's own station. And who's getting riled? I'm making a point on a messageboard, that's sort of what they were invented for.... But Crewe doesn't have its own station and it's been on Radio Stoke for decades so comparing the situation with elsewhere is just pointless whataboutism. And all sports stations are going to play live match footage over call ins, its hardly favouring them over stoke. I was talking about the angry tone and angry emojis used in OP's first post, not you.
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Post by dingdongbell on Nov 28, 2020 21:35:31 GMT
To be fair to Ange , she tells it how she sees it , another point , when they ask the so called pundits for their predictions they almost always go for a Stoke victory and read out some texts saying Albert from Cheadle is going for 6 nil to Stoke while Bill from Tunstall says 4 nil to the Potters, if they got them half right we would be back in the Premier league quick as a flash . Always remember Denis Smith predicting us to win at Anfield just before we lost 5 nil . Now there is optimism and there is stupidity.
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Post by ratters on Nov 28, 2020 21:47:49 GMT
At least I can watch the red button wednesday with no commentary, Blakeman is awful, and is very anti stoke, and comes out with some tripe when stoke should have been given free kicks etc. Nige just cant tell one player from the next, at one point when Paterson was taking long throws he was just saying the full back on that side was taking it, its painful to listen to, especially so in these times when fans can't go and you have to listen to that, he should really bow out before he gets pushed
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Post by thevoid on Nov 28, 2020 21:52:04 GMT
I used them as an example. As you say, Yeovil are in a separate county as are Crewe to us so I'm not sure why Radio Stoke has to cover them at all. Cheshire's a big enough area to merit it's own station. And who's getting riled? I'm making a point on a messageboard, that's sort of what they were invented for.... But Crewe doesn't have its own station and it's been on Radio Stoke for decades so comparing the situation with elsewhere is just pointless whataboutism. And all sports stations are going to play live match footage over call ins, its hardly favouring them over stoke. I was talking about the angry tone and angry emojis used in OP's first post, not you. It's not whataboutism at all, if we used that logic we wouldn't discuss/debate anything would we? So what if Radio Stoke have covered Crewe for decades? Things change- decades ago you wouldn't have a female in a studio discussing football. The point remains that Cheshire is a big enough region to merit it's own dedicated station and most people in North Staffs aren't interested in Crewe. If county borders can be redrawn, I'm sure an archaic system that has a provincial radio station covering a side outside the area no one gives two hoots about can be changed- I'm pretty confident the people of Crewe would prefer a more localised station than being lumped in with Stoke too. That's my two penneth on the topic anyway. It's not interesting enough a subject matter to keep chewing the fat over.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 28, 2020 21:56:44 GMT
At least I can watch the red button wednesday with no commentary, Blakeman is awful, and is very anti stoke, and comes out with some tripe when stoke should have been given free kicks etc. Nige just cant tell one player from the next, at one point when Paterson was taking long throws he was just saying the full back on that side was taking it, its painful to listen to, especially so in these times when fans can't go and you have to listen to that, he should really bow out before he gets pushed I don't know why Blakeman doesn't cover the Fail and a Stoke fan/someone with a Stoke connection covers us? It's not rocket science. The lip service given to the area's biggest club is a joke and surely not replicated anywhere else in the country.
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Post by dave1 on Nov 28, 2020 21:58:55 GMT
At least I can watch the red button wednesday with no commentary, Blakeman is awful, and is very anti stoke, and comes out with some tripe when stoke should have been given free kicks etc. Nige just cant tell one player from the next, at one point when Paterson was taking long throws he was just saying the full back on that side was taking it, its painful to listen to, especially so in these times when fans can't go and you have to listen to that, he should really bow out before he gets pushed I don't know why Blakeman doesn't cover the Fail and a Stoke fan/someone with a Stoke connection covers us? It's not rocket science. The lip service given to the area's biggest club is a joke and surely not replicated anywhere else in the country. Stoke no.1 fan does cover us pal
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2020 22:00:25 GMT
As for the actual coverage for the stream, it was the actual commentary for the Vale game to about 2 minutes before kick off and then whoever it was with Johnson said we were playing Sheffield United.
Shambolic.
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Post by DC1863 on Nov 28, 2020 22:13:00 GMT
But Crewe doesn't have its own station and it's been on Radio Stoke for decades so comparing the situation with elsewhere is just pointless whataboutism. And all sports stations are going to play live match footage over call ins, its hardly favouring them over stoke. I was talking about the angry tone and angry emojis used in OP's first post, not you. It's not whataboutism at all, if we used that logic we wouldn't discuss/debate anything would we? So what if Radio Stoke have covered Crewe for decades? Things change- decades ago you wouldn't have a female in a studio discussing football. The point remains that Cheshire is a big enough region to merit it's own dedicated station and most people in North Staffs aren't interested in Crewe. If county borders can be redrawn, I'm sure an archaic system that has a provincial radio station covering a side outside the area no one gives two hoots about can be changed- I'm pretty confident the people of Crewe would prefer a more localised station than being lumped in with Stoke too. That's my two penneth on the topic anyway. It's not interesting enough a subject matter to keep chewing the fat over. Of course it is when you start talking about 'what if Bristol' etc when the geography/station situation is completely different and not at all relevant to us. What on earth does the shift towards gender equality in sports presenting have to do with representation of sports teams on local radio? More whataboutism. I'm sure everyone would be happier with separate stations, of course, but the actual facts are that radio is on the decline, there's basically zero chance of anyone forming a radio station to cater solely to Chesire East, it doesn't make any financial sense to do so. Smaller clubs often get grouped into media from outside their jurisdiction, Macc used to be on BBC Manchester. It's obviously beneficial to the station and the club, plus Crewe always get shoehorned on to medium wave and their coverage almost never effects us in any way. But the point that I and the majority of people in the thread made still stands, there's almost no story after today's game for us and Crewe were playing live, of course they'll put the live game on? So to moan about having to wait 20 mins for the MON interview as though Radio Stoke are betraying the local fans is just ridiculous.
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Post by bgreen13 on Nov 28, 2020 22:24:17 GMT
This poor lady is getting battered on here every week for nothing other than giving HER opinion, nothing more nothing less Grow the fuck up So? You go on local radio and that’s what will happen. Who hasn’t been battered regularly that’s been on Radio Stoke? 😂 Christ Denis Smith was. If you do that sort of thing, it’s part and parcel of it. She makes a bad programme, worse. You're an awful Stoke fan but you go all pissy when it's mentioned.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2020 22:35:01 GMT
So? You go on local radio and that’s what will happen. Who hasn’t been battered regularly that’s been on Radio Stoke? 😂 Christ Denis Smith was. If you do that sort of thing, it’s part and parcel of it. She makes a bad programme, worse. You're an awful Stoke fan but you go all pissy when it's mentioned. Because it’s nonsense Mr Pwingy. I expect a bit better and for the last 5 years have been way more on the ball about the bigger picture than most. Everything I say is done with the hope it makes us better.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Nov 28, 2020 23:01:54 GMT
Just amateur hour. Why do they have Angela Smith on for every Stoke game now? Nobody wants to listen to her. Go back to tea, biscuits and freebies with Tone! Is there really any need for that? Erm yes, this is a thread about the Radio Stoke coverage of Stoke games. The whole Radio Stoke set up is lazy and amateurish. Why can’t they have someone on there that actually has some professional football experience? Someone who can provide some insight that might be informative and interesting to listen to? If it was Squash coverage, then I’d be very interested in what Angela has to say. I find it very strange that someone who is supposed to be the chair of a group which represents the supporters is removing themselves from the supporter experience as much as possible. Privileged access to multiple areas of the stadium, access to press conferences and now a regular position on the local media sports programme which covers the games. There may even be more that we don’t know about. Why not have Tom Edwards as chair of the supporters council? He’d probably be able to relate to the average supporter experience just as much as the current chair.
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Post by ab61 on Nov 28, 2020 23:07:51 GMT
Nobody in Staffordshire gives a monkey's fart about Crewe. Can you imagine the station in Bristol giving Yeovil equal coverage to City or Rovers? It just wouldn't happen. Why would BBC Bristol start talking about Yeovil when Yeovil are covered by BBC Somerset? Crewe arent covered by any other BBC station so that's obviously why they feature on ours. I dont wanna hear about them either but like it or not they've been on there for 20+ years. It's pretty obvious why they chose to air FA cup extra time live football over asking people to call in and talk about a 0-0 draw, rather petty thing to get riled up over if you ask me. Doesn’t make it right cos Crewe have been on for 20 years ! We’ve had Welsh clubs in our football league for years as well. Wish we could fuck them off as well to be honest.
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 28, 2020 23:08:46 GMT
Is there really any need for that? Unfortunately she's a target now it's all rather sad. It's fast becoming a bullying issue.
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Post by kjpt140v on Nov 28, 2020 23:10:24 GMT
Crewe have their own match, on their own channel all afternoon, then because they have to play extra time, we all, Stoke and Vale fans- regardless of what out matches turned out like- are then subjected to McGarry with his Crewe worship. 99% of those listening to P and G are Stoke or Vale fans, but all must wait until the Crewe saga is played out. For Gods sake, its called RADIO STOKE! No one is interested in Crewe except McGarry who is a Crewe fan and Radio Stoke sports editor. Sod McGarry off, and bring back John Akers to comment on the Stoke games. Nige it now seems, has become nothing more than a diluted Stoke critic. At least, fan or not, Akers did put on a show of being one, and brought some passion to a game, regardless of how bad was. At least Akers didn't bore us to death during the game or during P and G after the game.The least said about the other Stoke commentator the better, he is boredom personified.. Its only for one game, get over it.
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Post by ab61 on Nov 28, 2020 23:14:15 GMT
Crewe have their own match, on their own channel all afternoon, then because they have to play extra time, we all, Stoke and Vale fans- regardless of what out matches turned out like- are then subjected to McGarry with his Crewe worship. 99% of those listening to P and G are Stoke or Vale fans, but all must wait until the Crewe saga is played out. For Gods sake, its called RADIO STOKE! No one is interested in Crewe except McGarry who is a Crewe fan and Radio Stoke sports editor. Sod McGarry off, and bring back John Akers to comment on the Stoke games. Nige it now seems, has become nothing more than a diluted Stoke critic. At least, fan or not, Akers did put on a show of being one, and brought some passion to a game, regardless of how bad was. At least Akers didn't bore us to death during the game or during P and G after the game.The least said about the other Stoke commentator the better, he is boredom personified.. Its only for one game, get over it. Bad enough been told to fuck off up the Vile. But when your told to fuck off up the Crwho you’ve found a new level mate.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 28, 2020 23:16:26 GMT
It's not whataboutism at all, if we used that logic we wouldn't discuss/debate anything would we? So what if Radio Stoke have covered Crewe for decades? Things change- decades ago you wouldn't have a female in a studio discussing football. The point remains that Cheshire is a big enough region to merit it's own dedicated station and most people in North Staffs aren't interested in Crewe. If county borders can be redrawn, I'm sure an archaic system that has a provincial radio station covering a side outside the area no one gives two hoots about can be changed- I'm pretty confident the people of Crewe would prefer a more localised station than being lumped in with Stoke too. That's my two penneth on the topic anyway. It's not interesting enough a subject matter to keep chewing the fat over. Of course it is when you start talking about 'what if Bristol' etc when the geography/station situation is completely different and not at all relevant to us. What on earth does the shift towards gender equality in sports presenting have to do with representation of sports teams on local radio? More whataboutism. I'm sure everyone would be happier with separate stations, of course, but the actual facts are that radio is on the decline, there's basically zero chance of anyone forming a radio station to cater solely to Chesire East, it doesn't make any financial sense to do so. Smaller clubs often get grouped into media from outside their jurisdiction, Macc used to be on BBC Manchester. It's obviously beneficial to the station and the club, plus Crewe always get shoehorned on to medium wave and their coverage almost never effects us in any way. But the point that I and the majority of people in the thread made still stands, there's almost no story after today's game for us and Crewe were playing live, of course they'll put the live game on? So to moan about having to wait 20 mins for the MON interview as though Radio Stoke are betraying the local fans is just ridiculous. What a load of horseshit that is🙄No other BBC station would do such a thing,they would never consider giving so much airtime to a club that are lucky to draw in 3,000 fans ( if allowed) week in week out.The whole station is run by amateurs and not one of the regular hosts ie Sandoz,Blakeman and Bowers have the football knowledge to just host and talk about football.Its an embarrassing listen and that includes Nigel Johnson who should have gone at least 2 years ago.Compared to other local BBC stations it’s pathetic and the sooner they sort it out the better.
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Post by RAF on Nov 28, 2020 23:17:45 GMT
Ange doesn't speak for me, but I was on her radio show a few times and she was nothing but polite and welcoming. Yes she has her opinion that often differs from mine but for fucks sake you don't have to be so cuntish, she's a decent lady that loves Stoke. H No ones saying she isn't/doesn't . They are being cuntish though. H
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 28, 2020 23:19:13 GMT
Of course it is when you start talking about 'what if Bristol' etc when the geography/station situation is completely different and not at all relevant to us. What on earth does the shift towards gender equality in sports presenting have to do with representation of sports teams on local radio? More whataboutism. I'm sure everyone would be happier with separate stations, of course, but the actual facts are that radio is on the decline, there's basically zero chance of anyone forming a radio station to cater solely to Chesire East, it doesn't make any financial sense to do so. Smaller clubs often get grouped into media from outside their jurisdiction, Macc used to be on BBC Manchester. It's obviously beneficial to the station and the club, plus Crewe always get shoehorned on to medium wave and their coverage almost never effects us in any way. But the point that I and the majority of people in the thread made still stands, there's almost no story after today's game for us and Crewe were playing live, of course they'll put the live game on? So to moan about having to wait 20 mins for the MON interview as though Radio Stoke are betraying the local fans is just ridiculous. What a load of horseshit that is🙄No other BBC station would do such a thing,they would never consider giving so much airtime to a club that are lucky to draw in 3,000 fans ( if allowed) week in week out.The whole station is run by amateurs and not one of the regular hosts ie Sandoz,Blakeman and Bowers have the football knowledge to just host and talk about football.Its an embarrassing listen and that includes Nigel Johnson who should have gone at least 2 years ago.Compared to other local BBC stations it’s pathetic and the sooner they sort it out the better. You can’t be nasty to anyone on Radio Stoke 😂
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Post by march4 on Nov 28, 2020 23:23:48 GMT
Point being, you dont have to overdub RADIO commentary. You can do an in house product like our peers in the Championship. Not sure that would be any better, mate.
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Post by matelot1996 on Nov 28, 2020 23:33:08 GMT
Just amateur hour. Why do they have Angela Smith on for every Stoke game now? Nobody wants to listen to her. Go back to tea, biscuits and freebies with Tone! It’s like listening to your Granny talking about sex. You just don’t need it so you. 😂😂
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Post by DC1863 on Nov 28, 2020 23:45:03 GMT
Of course it is when you start talking about 'what if Bristol' etc when the geography/station situation is completely different and not at all relevant to us. What on earth does the shift towards gender equality in sports presenting have to do with representation of sports teams on local radio? More whataboutism. I'm sure everyone would be happier with separate stations, of course, but the actual facts are that radio is on the decline, there's basically zero chance of anyone forming a radio station to cater solely to Chesire East, it doesn't make any financial sense to do so. Smaller clubs often get grouped into media from outside their jurisdiction, Macc used to be on BBC Manchester. It's obviously beneficial to the station and the club, plus Crewe always get shoehorned on to medium wave and their coverage almost never effects us in any way. But the point that I and the majority of people in the thread made still stands, there's almost no story after today's game for us and Crewe were playing live, of course they'll put the live game on? So to moan about having to wait 20 mins for the MON interview as though Radio Stoke are betraying the local fans is just ridiculous. What a load of horseshit that is🙄No other BBC station would do such a thing,they would never consider giving so much airtime to a club that are lucky to draw in 3,000 fans ( if allowed) week in week out.The whole station is run by amateurs and not one of the regular hosts ie Sandoz,Blakeman and Bowers have the football knowledge to just host and talk about football.Its an embarrassing listen and that includes Nigel Johnson who should have gone at least 2 years ago.Compared to other local BBC stations it’s pathetic and the sooner they sort it out the better. No course they wouldn't, even though I've just pointed out BBC Manchester played the Macclesfield games live. 'So much airtime' being games broadcast separately on medium wave and you being forced to listen to the end of extra time instead twenty minutes of call ins before the manager interview. You're opinions on how good the presenters are and when Nige should've retired are irrelevant to the original points you brought up that most people have disagreed with but you're free to carry on ranting pal. I'd also be interested to know what other local BBC stations that you're comparing them to and how much you listen to them? Perhaps Blakeman et al would benefit from the wisdom of your 20,000 internet posts
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Nov 28, 2020 23:51:09 GMT
What a load of horseshit that is🙄No other BBC station would do such a thing,they would never consider giving so much airtime to a club that are lucky to draw in 3,000 fans ( if allowed) week in week out.The whole station is run by amateurs and not one of the regular hosts ie Sandoz,Blakeman and Bowers have the football knowledge to just host and talk about football.Its an embarrassing listen and that includes Nigel Johnson who should have gone at least 2 years ago.Compared to other local BBC stations it’s pathetic and the sooner they sort it out the better. No course they wouldn't, even though I've just pointed out BBC Manchester played the Macclesfield games live. 'So much airtime' being games broadcast separately on medium wave and you being forced to listen to the end of extra time instead twenty minutes of call ins before the manager interview. You're opinions on how good the presenters are and when Nige should've retired are irrelevant to the original points you brought up that most people have disagreed with but you're free to carry on ranting pal. It’s not ranting whatsoever it’s fact,there’s no reason whatsoever that they couldn’t have put Crewe on 94.6 or 1503 for their fans to listen to,instead yet again we have people running the station who haven’t got a clue.Trust me I’ve listened to a lot of local radio sport/football over the years and still do and Radio Stoke does not compare well. You challenge them and they just ignore you or block you in Blakeman’s case.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 28, 2020 23:56:56 GMT
I like listening to Ange, she tries a different approach and it works for me.
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Post by DC1863 on Nov 28, 2020 23:59:52 GMT
No course they wouldn't, even though I've just pointed out BBC Manchester played the Macclesfield games live. 'So much airtime' being games broadcast separately on medium wave and you being forced to listen to the end of extra time instead twenty minutes of call ins before the manager interview. You're opinions on how good the presenters are and when Nige should've retired are irrelevant to the original points you brought up that most people have disagreed with but you're free to carry on ranting pal. It’s not ranting whatsoever it’s fact,there’s no reason whatsoever that they couldn’t have put Crewe on 94.6 or 1503 for their fans to listen to,instead yet again we have people running the station who haven’t got a clue.Trust me I’ve listened to a lot of local radio sport/football over the years and still do and Radio Stoke does not compare well. You challenge them and they just ignore you or block you in Blakeman’s case. What's fact? The stuff you said about the presenters? Because that reads mightily like opinion and opinion isn't fact no matter how highly you value your own. Hopefully Blakeman or Sandoz will be more responsive next time you 'challenge' them online, they must just be intimidated by all the facts you're throwing at them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2020 0:03:12 GMT
It’s not ranting whatsoever it’s fact,there’s no reason whatsoever that they couldn’t have put Crewe on 94.6 or 1503 for their fans to listen to,instead yet again we have people running the station who haven’t got a clue.Trust me I’ve listened to a lot of local radio sport/football over the years and still do and Radio Stoke does not compare well. You challenge them and they just ignore you or block you in Blakeman’s case. What's fact? The stuff you said about the presenters? Because that reads mightily like opinion and opinion isn't fact no matter how highly you value your own. Hopefully Blakeman or Sandoz will be more responsive next time you 'challenge' them online, they must just be intimidated by all the facts you're throwing at them. The hypocrisy is flowing. This is delightful 😂
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Post by DC1863 on Nov 29, 2020 0:20:35 GMT
What's fact? The stuff you said about the presenters? Because that reads mightily like opinion and opinion isn't fact no matter how highly you value your own. Hopefully Blakeman or Sandoz will be more responsive next time you 'challenge' them online, they must just be intimidated by all the facts you're throwing at them. The hypocrisy is flowing. This is delightful 😂 All good Saturday night fun 😂 Despite that I do agree with some of stuff OP and others have said. I'd sooner have Spinksy on than Ange and Crewe generally shouldn't be on Radio Stoke. But she is, they have been for yonks and I didn't mind hearing the end of their FA Cup game. All my opinion, of course.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 29, 2020 0:23:57 GMT
The hypocrisy is flowing. This is delightful 😂 All good Saturday night fun 😂 Despite that I do agree with some of stuff OP and others have said. I'd sooner have Spinksy on than Ange and Crewe generally shouldn't be on Radio Stoke. But she is, they have been for yonks and I didn't mind hearing the end of their FA Cup game. All my opinion, of course. Yeah Spinks has been ok tbf. I just don’t get why anyone would actually listen to it of their free will.
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Post by callas12 on Nov 29, 2020 0:35:33 GMT
No course they wouldn't, even though I've just pointed out BBC Manchester played the Macclesfield games live. 'So much airtime' being games broadcast separately on medium wave and you being forced to listen to the end of extra time instead twenty minutes of call ins before the manager interview. You're opinions on how good the presenters are and when Nige should've retired are irrelevant to the original points you brought up that most people have disagreed with but you're free to carry on ranting pal. It’s not ranting whatsoever it’s fact,there’s no reason whatsoever that they couldn’t have put Crewe on 94.6 or 1503 for their fans to listen to,instead yet again we have people running the station who haven’t got a clue.Trust me I’ve listened to a lot of local radio sport/football over the years and still do and Radio Stoke does not compare well. You challenge them and they just ignore you or block you in Blakeman’s case. Its been mentioned numerous times before but Radio Stoke started losing its way as far as sports coverage is concerned when John Acres got shelved as the main host of local sport. Blakeman used to simply read the text updates out in praise & grumble when Acres was presenting & from what I recall he wasn't great at that. Don't mind Sandoz as much but he's definitely no Johnny Acres when it comes to commentating & presenting. I used to ring up P&G quite regularly after matches when Acres was presenting but really haven't had the will or desire to since he got moved on. With regards to other areas having better BBC sport coverage, thats easily discovered by flicking onto the local BBC broadcasting stations on leaving away games in different parts of the country over the years & is proof alone that other areas give far better & more indepth & balanced coverage of their teams. For starters on a night match after a late kick off they often broadcast until 22:30 to make sure they get after match reaction. Radio Stoke are usually rushing to tie the programme up for 22:00hrs and you often get the 'Tune in to the breakfast show to get the managers after match comments! Can't be late for Graham Torringtons Late Night Love Songs can they?! Think we've been spoilt having John Acres & quite abit before him Ivan Gaskell doing our match coverage in the past, both of whom often do big match coverage for the BBC either on Radio 5live or Final Score and in Gaskells case MoTD. Think the fact Graham Mcgarry, Blakeman and Co are never likely to feature for the high end MSM outlets speaks volumes about how our coverage has fallen these last few years.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Nov 29, 2020 1:00:50 GMT
The hypocrisy is flowing. This is delightful 😂 I'd sooner have Spinksy on than Ange and Crewe generally shouldn't be on Radio Stoke. Radio Stoke is the local BBC radio station that covers North Staffordshire and South Cheshire. Signal Radio is the same, it's ILR licence is given to cover North Staffordshire and South Cheshire. Last time I checked Crewe was in South Cheshire.
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