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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 22, 2020 11:48:30 GMT
I know he’s far from perfect. And he can drift out of games.
But that was a great goal. Top class.
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Nov 22, 2020 11:59:29 GMT
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Post by RF10 on Nov 22, 2020 11:59:29 GMT
He's a player under Rowett and Jones I didn't rate at all and couldn't see what he offered. Since MON has come in he's been great.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2020 12:06:13 GMT
Yesterday was very Clucas.
Did sod all then scored that.
I think he’s great.
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Post by gingerninja on Nov 22, 2020 12:10:01 GMT
He offers goals from midfield which will be vital for us, not sure he works with Mikel, but we need to find a way to accommodate him.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 22, 2020 12:24:19 GMT
He offers goals from midfield which will be vital for us, not sure he works with Mikel, but we need to find a way to accommodate him. Thats the problem for me its one or the other really with a proper dirty bastard DM along side them, difficult decision to make.
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Nov 22, 2020 12:25:27 GMT
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Post by chuckrocky on Nov 22, 2020 12:25:27 GMT
If ever there was a game to sum him up then yesterday was it.
Didn’t notice he was on the pitch for the majority of the game but then comes up with a fantastic goal out of nothing.
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Nov 22, 2020 12:30:06 GMT
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Post by hardcastle on Nov 22, 2020 12:30:06 GMT
Aside from a wonderfully struck goal, what did he actually do? To me, he's a paradox, an enigma. Perhaps l'll stop watching the play for ten minutes and just watch him instead.
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Nov 22, 2020 12:38:44 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 22, 2020 12:38:44 GMT
Lovely goal but I have to say his work off the ball was poor. The space that their man had for Huddersfield’s first goal is a case in point.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2020 12:44:50 GMT
Lovely goal but I have to say his work off the ball was poor. The space that their man had for Huddersfield’s first goal is a case in point. It was poor but he was there at least. Where the frig was Mikel?
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 22, 2020 12:48:24 GMT
Lovely goal but I have to say his work off the ball was poor. The space that their man had for Huddersfield’s first goal is a case in point. It was poor but he was there at least. Where the frig was Mikel? Don’t know but as a pair there’s no way the lad should have that kind of room on the edge of the box. It seems to me that Clucas has a habit of ball watching and allowing runners to get past him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2020 12:56:45 GMT
It was poor but he was there at least. Where the frig was Mikel? Don’t know but as a pair there’s no way the lad should have that kind of room on the edge of the box. It seems to me that Clucas has a habit of ball watching and allowing runners to get past him. He does but in this case Clucas was already goal side wasn’t he? He was just trying to cover that whole area on his own. Mikel was on the right wing almost. Poor from both of them but Mikel has been doing it a lot since the Barnsley game. He’s not the DM I thought we were getting tbh. But he’s a much better footballer than I thought we’d get. And I don’t think Allen solves the issue either. He’s always let runners go in his time here.
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Post by mickstupp on Nov 22, 2020 13:00:31 GMT
Don’t know but as a pair there’s no way the lad should have that kind of room on the edge of the box. It seems to me that Clucas has a habit of ball watching and allowing runners to get past him. He does but in this case Clucas was already goal side wasn’t he? He was just trying to cover that whole area on his own. Mikel was on the right wing almost. Poor from both of them but Mikel has been doing it a lot since the Barnsley game. He’s not the DM I thought we were getting tbh. But he’s a much better footballer than I thought we’d get. And I don’t think Allen solves the issue either. He’s always let runners go in his time here. Yes Allen is the worst culprit. God knows how he fits them into the same side without shoehorning them into a 433.
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Nov 22, 2020 13:06:55 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 22, 2020 13:06:55 GMT
He does but in this case Clucas was already goal side wasn’t he? He was just trying to cover that whole area on his own. Mikel was on the right wing almost. Poor from both of them but Mikel has been doing it a lot since the Barnsley game. He’s not the DM I thought we were getting tbh. But he’s a much better footballer than I thought we’d get. And I don’t think Allen solves the issue either. He’s always let runners go in his time here. Yes Allen is the worst culprit. God knows how he fits them into the same side without shoehorning them into a 433. He doesn't, he's not good enough to be worth changing the entire set up for, its a shame he's been injured it would have been the perfect time to sell him on.
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Post by Fred Merger on Nov 22, 2020 13:32:17 GMT
Sam Clucas is the best striker of a ball that we have at the club. People need to realise that he is going to be a bit rusty as he hasn't played for a while. He's proved to be a match winner on a number of occasions.
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Nov 22, 2020 13:44:56 GMT
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Nov 22, 2020 13:44:56 GMT
It was poor but he was there at least. Where the frig was Mikel? Don’t know but as a pair there’s no way the lad should have that kind of room on the edge of the box. It seems to me that Clucas has a habit of ball watching and allowing runners to get past him. This, thought he was partially culpable for the first goal, ball watching and no awareness of what is behind him. Then the second goal he allows their player to do him like a kipper on his inside leaving him acres to run into and pick a pass through our defence. To me he’s just not a DM. His goal return covers up for a lot.
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Nov 22, 2020 13:57:18 GMT
Post by silsdenstokie on Nov 22, 2020 13:57:18 GMT
Interesting to se what midfield we will go with when Allen is fully fit
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Nov 22, 2020 14:16:26 GMT
Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 22, 2020 14:16:26 GMT
Don’t know but as a pair there’s no way the lad should have that kind of room on the edge of the box. It seems to me that Clucas has a habit of ball watching and allowing runners to get past him. This, thought he was partially culpable for the first goal, ball watching and no awareness of what is behind him. Then the second goal he allows their player to do him like a kipper on his inside leaving him acres to run into and pick a pass through our defence. To me he’s just not a DM. His goal return covers up for a lot. Spot on he isn't a DM and shouldn't be used as one.
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Nov 22, 2020 14:17:53 GMT
Post by cousindupree on Nov 22, 2020 14:17:53 GMT
With Allen fit there is a real conundrum in midfield for MON. neither Clucas or Allen are particularly great defensively. Clucas switches off and goes missing. Allen much more energetic and gets involved but lack discipline, but would sooner see either of them in there rather than Thompson TOB or the woeful Cousins. Clucas because of his potential goals output should be playing further forward. Maybe as an alternative/backup to Powell in behind the front 3 or maybe left in the front 3. An attacking 4 of Powell Campbell Fletcher Clucas sounds tasty with lots of goal potential.
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Nov 22, 2020 14:37:20 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Nov 22, 2020 14:37:20 GMT
Lovely goal but I have to say his work off the ball was poor. The space that their man had for Huddersfield’s first goal is a case in point. It was poor but he was there at least. Where the frig was Mikel? This. He’s absolutely miles away.
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Nov 22, 2020 15:50:13 GMT
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Post by foxysgloves on Nov 22, 2020 15:50:13 GMT
Don’t know but as a pair there’s no way the lad should have that kind of room on the edge of the box. It seems to me that Clucas has a habit of ball watching and allowing runners to get past him. This, thought he was partially culpable for the first goal, ball watching and no awareness of what is behind him. Then the second goal he allows their player to do him like a kipper on his inside leaving him acres to run into and pick a pass through our defence. To me he’s just not a DM. His goal return covers up for a lot. Goals win matches though. Like his pearler did yesterday!
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Nov 22, 2020 15:59:33 GMT
Post by jeycov on Nov 22, 2020 15:59:33 GMT
we'll need to use most of our 20 key players
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Nov 22, 2020 16:03:01 GMT
Post by emmbrook1956 on Nov 22, 2020 16:03:01 GMT
Sam Clucas is the best striker of a ball that we have at the club. People need to realise that he is going to be a bit rusty as he hasn't played for a while. He's proved to be a match winner on a number of occasions. Thank goodness for your comments. Absolute sense. First game for a month. Great he scored such an important goal. He scored a good number last year. Give him a break please, or even better get behind our players!
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Nov 22, 2020 16:04:52 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2020 16:04:52 GMT
Sam Clucas is the best striker of a ball that we have at the club. People need to realise that he is going to be a bit rusty as he hasn't played for a while. He's proved to be a match winner on a number of occasions. Thank goodness for your comments. Absolute sense. First game for a month. Great he scored such an important goal. He scored a good number last year. Give him a break please, or even better get behind our players! He played poorly though. Why comment otherwise?
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Nov 22, 2020 16:14:50 GMT
Post by emmbrook1956 on Nov 22, 2020 16:14:50 GMT
Thank goodness for your comments. Absolute sense. First game for a month. Great he scored such an important goal. He scored a good number last year. Give him a break please, or even better get behind our players! He played poorly though. Why comment otherwise? Bayern, Most of the time you just moan, moan, and moan. Unlike you, I am of the view that you encourage players, if they play a poor pass, they can do nothing about it, it is the next pass which is important. So if they have a poor game accept it, move on to the next game. Yes you can comment but your comments seem very repetitive. Even when we win you have to moan. Younseem to have an LP! End of my comments on this subject!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 22, 2020 16:16:36 GMT
He has to play if fit but his position is a conundrum. Don’t like him with Mikel he needs to be further forward but we are doing well in that respect so do we shoehorn him in on the left of the 3 behind the striker and play Campbell right?
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Nov 22, 2020 16:19:03 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 22, 2020 16:19:03 GMT
He played poorly though. Why comment otherwise? Bayern, Most of the time you just moan, moan, and moan. Unlike you, I am of the view that you encourage players, if they play a poor pass, they can do nothing about it, it is the next pass which is important. So if they have a poor game accept it, move on to the next game. Yes you can comment but your comments seem very repetitive. Even when we win you have to moan. Younseem to have an LP! End of my comments on this subject! We’re offering comment on the game. There’s no need to encourage 😂 Who’s not accepting it? I just find it odd that people wouldn’t be honest about what actually happened in the game for some deluded version of fandom.
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Nov 22, 2020 17:02:23 GMT
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Post by callas12 on Nov 22, 2020 17:02:23 GMT
Great goal aside I didnt think he was exceptional yesterday but he has been out of match action for a few weeks now so I was happy to give him the benefit of the doubt regarding fitness & general involvement etc. On his day he can be a matchwinner and I'm sure in the next few games he'll get sharper and back to his best. His corners did seem quite useful yesterday from what I recall
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Post by Fred Ferret on Nov 23, 2020 8:16:18 GMT
Sam Clucas is the best striker of a ball that we have at the club. People need to realise that he is going to be a bit rusty as he hasn't played for a while. He's proved to be a match winner on a number of occasions. Spot on, except I would say Ty is just as good a striker of the ball, perhaps more sublime. For me Sam’s movement and deception for the goal was excellent - they couldn’t touch him. The final execution was one that will linger in memory - angled, rising and an Exocet.
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Nov 23, 2020 8:51:24 GMT
Post by tcdobinghoff on Nov 23, 2020 8:51:24 GMT
Watching that goal I had a feeling of déjà vue - an image of Calvin Palmer came into my head scoring in front of the Boothen End. That was a blast from the past.
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Post by clarkeda on Nov 23, 2020 9:47:28 GMT
He has to play if fit but his position is a conundrum. Don’t like him with Mikel he needs to be further forward but we are doing well in that respect so do we shoehorn him in on the left of the 3 behind the striker and play Campbell right? I actually think he could be a very useful option at LWB if we play a back three, a little more defensive and composed than mcclean and more attacking then fox and would still have a licence to get forward. From what I remember though he hates playing there and pretty much said so in an interview.
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