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Post by followyoudown on Jan 14, 2021 12:27:48 GMT
98 all those somerset players with handful of caps gave me a few extra Good effort. There were quite a few where I couldn’t put a name to the face and inexplicably couldn’t think who England’s coach is🤦🏻♂️ Yeah there is a few I kicked myself for missing like Samit Patel others like the 1 test quick from kent born in denmark not so much.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 15, 2021 6:53:35 GMT
Lawrence has started really well and Roots plodding on towards 3 figures. Good stuff from England
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 15, 2021 7:11:00 GMT
Lawrence has started really well and Roots plodding on towards 3 figures. Good stuff from England Roots spent too much time progressing to three figures then failing to get there. Let’s hope today is different and he goes on not just to that landmark, but converts to one of those Graham Gooch daddy hundreds. He is far too good a player not to be making match defining innings on a regular basis. Agree about Lawrence. He looks pretty good. Nice and still at the crease and reasonably orthodox. His only problem is there is some serious competition for places in that middle order. Ollie Pope, for example, is due to return for the India series and he is seriously good.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 15, 2021 7:18:23 GMT
Lawrence has started really well and Roots plodding on towards 3 figures. Good stuff from England Roots spent too much time progressing to three figures then failing to get there. Let’s hope today is different and he goes on not just to that landmark, but converts to one of those Graham Gooch daddy hundreds. He is far too good a player not to be making match defining innings on a regular basis. Agree about Lawrence. He looks pretty good. Nice and still at the crease and reasonably orthodox. His only problem is there is some serious competition for places in that middle order. Ollie Pope, for example, is due to return for the India series and he is seriously good. Yeh Lawrence is probably no more than a stop gap for when Stokes and Pope come back but he’s played really well and it’s another example of England’s strength in depth. If he gets a hundred here and gets some runs in the next game Pope will be looking over his shoulder as his form had dipped a bit before he got injured. Hopefully Root can get a big one today, looking forward to us putting them to the sword for the next two sessions 😀
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 15, 2021 7:43:53 GMT
Played captain👏🏻
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 15, 2021 9:57:03 GMT
Looking at how Buttler is struggling to get going is a reminder how tough it is to get a start and how important it is to capitalise once you have a start.
Something Joe Root has had problems with but has put right today.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 15, 2021 13:38:05 GMT
Should win from there, weather permitting...
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 15, 2021 13:50:31 GMT
Should win from there, weather permitting... You’d think so. Sri Lanka’s best chance was to restrict our first innings to a score they could match in their second innings meaning we’d have to chase down a score in our second innings that matched what they posted in their first innings. (You might have to read that a couple of times)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 15, 2021 13:54:31 GMT
Should win from there, weather permitting... You’d think so. Sri Lanka’s best chance was to restrict our first innings to a score they could match in their second innings meaning we’d have to chase down a score in our second innings that matched what they posted in their first innings. (You might have to read that a couple of times) Quick 80 runs in the morning and stick em in just before lunch I reckon
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 15, 2021 13:56:30 GMT
Should win from there, weather permitting... You’d think so. Sri Lanka’s best chance was to restrict our first innings to a score they could match in their second innings meaning we’d have to chase down a score in our second innings that matched what they posted in their first innings. (You might have to read that a couple of times) The thing about Asian tour pitches is that even third innings can produce 500+ runs for a draw on a fairly regular basis, something you rarely if ever see in the UK, apart from on the flattest of batting tracks once the first innings green has gone. So, nothing taken for granted, but they don't look a good side I have to say.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 15, 2021 14:01:59 GMT
You’d think so. Sri Lanka’s best chance was to restrict our first innings to a score they could match in their second innings meaning we’d have to chase down a score in our second innings that matched what they posted in their first innings. (You might have to read that a couple of times) The thing about Asian tour pitches is that even third innings can produce 500+ runs for a draw on a fairly regular basis, something you rarely if ever see in the UK, apart from on the flattest of batting tracks once the first innings green has gone. So, nothing taken for granted, but they don't look a good side I have to say. Wonder if the guy who’s scored 4 ducks in a row and had the ball smashed at him on numerous occasions will be fit to play, his hand was like a balloon! Confident we will win this by an innings, possibly tomorrow.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 15, 2021 14:09:22 GMT
The thing about Asian tour pitches is that even third innings can produce 500+ runs for a draw on a fairly regular basis, something you rarely if ever see in the UK, apart from on the flattest of batting tracks once the first innings green has gone. So, nothing taken for granted, but they don't look a good side I have to say. Wonder if the guy who’s scored 4 ducks in a row and had the ball smashed at him on numerous occasions will be fit to play, his hand was like a balloon! Confident we will win this by an innings, possibly tomorrow. 4 ducks in a row? You know what he'll get this time then...!
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Post by AlliG on Jan 15, 2021 14:27:54 GMT
You’d think so. Sri Lanka’s best chance was to restrict our first innings to a score they could match in their second innings meaning we’d have to chase down a score in our second innings that matched what they posted in their first innings. (You might have to read that a couple of times) Quick 80 runs in the morning and stick em in just before lunch I reckon Why would you declare at lunch on the 3rd day, with a lead of only about 260? The last thing England want on a pitch like this is to have to bat again. Even if they were able to bat all day tomorrow there would still be 2 full days remaining on a wicket that while it might turn more will be generally getting lower and slower.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 15, 2021 14:32:58 GMT
Quick 80 runs in the morning and stick em in just before lunch I reckon Why would you declare at lunch on the 3rd day, with a lead of only about 260? The last thing England want on a pitch like this is to have to bat again. Even if they were able to bat all day tomorrow there would still be 2 full days remaining on a wicket that while it might turn more will be generally getting lower and slower. Cus I’m a maverick🤣
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 15, 2021 14:33:22 GMT
You’d think so. Sri Lanka’s best chance was to restrict our first innings to a score they could match in their second innings meaning we’d have to chase down a score in our second innings that matched what they posted in their first innings. (You might have to read that a couple of times) Quick 80 runs in the morning and stick em in just before lunch I reckon Unless the weather forecast determines otherwise, I’d bat long and post a score well in excess of 500. It’s important - with a view to the upcoming series in India and Australia, that we start building the habit of posting large first innings scores. I heard comments on TMS this morning attributed to Stuart Broad about this. He was talking about the reasons for England’s success in the 2010/11 tour and that the difference between that tour and the subsequent drubbings was the huge scores they were able to post thanks to the likes of Cook (particularly), Trott and Pietersen. So, I’d like to see Root post a big double ton (triple?) and Buttler score another century.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 15, 2021 14:33:54 GMT
Bat them into the dirt and bowl them out in 2 days, simple.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 15, 2021 17:25:37 GMT
Did anyone see one of those great documentaries they put on when it’s raining today about the England tour of West Indies in 1990? Really enjoyed that, especially Tony Greig commentating from up a tree outside the ground with some locals. And the opinions from both sides when the Windies blatantly time wasted in order to get a draw.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 15, 2021 19:59:33 GMT
Impressive stuff from the Indians again.
Their entire current bowling attack has a combined wealth of experience of just four tests! Dropped some critical catches unfortunately or they'd be even better placed.
Advantage Australia I reckon, but they're not quite out of it yet. Go on, India!
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 15, 2021 20:04:48 GMT
Quick 80 runs in the morning and stick em in just before lunch I reckon Unless the weather forecast determines otherwise, I’d bat long and post a score well in excess of 500. It’s important - with a view to the upcoming series in India and Australia, that we start building the habit of posting large first innings scores. I heard comments on TMS this morning attributed to Stuart Broad about this. He was talking about the reasons for England’s success in the 2010/11 tour and that the difference between that tour and the subsequent drubbings was the huge scores they were able to post thanks to the likes of Cook (particularly), Trott and Pietersen. So, I’d like to see Root post a big double ton (triple?) and Buttler score another century. Spot on, if you're going to win regularly in Asia and Australia, you need to be able to transition from quick 350-400 in English conditions to more time consuming 500+ in drier hotter conditions there. I can still remember about a decade ago England posting a score of 550 in our first innings and thinking that was a decent score, only for Australia to get 650 and Warne to do his magic! Game over.
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Post by Cns on Jan 16, 2021 5:17:14 GMT
ROOOOOOOOOT!!!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 16, 2021 5:50:31 GMT
Looks like 80 and stick em in before lunch isn’t that wide of the mark.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 16, 2021 7:29:45 GMT
Looks like 80 and stick em in before lunch isn’t that wide of the mark. Maybe so, but I suspect you were thinking that the innings would come to an end with a declaration rather than dismissal. That morning session, with the honourable and glorious exception of Root (we’ll forgive him another dreadful run out), was a big disappointment. We lost 6 wickets for 49 runs. We should still win this game, but Sri Lanka have an opportunity, albeit remote, that they shouldn’t have been allowed. As mentioned yesterday, their objective will be to match our 1st innings score in their second innings. That may be a tall order but it isn’t impossible. Particularly with our bowling attack being seam heavy and spin light - Root may well have a significant role to play with the ball particularly if Bess continues to bowl with little control and Leach failing to turn the ball. That would leave us with a tricky run chase in our second innings. On the positive side - we could well have an exciting game of cricket to watch. Actually I’d prefer that to seeing another feeble effort from Sri Lanka with the bat and the game finished within 3 days.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 16, 2021 7:59:25 GMT
Yes, that's a bit disappointing from England, should've been out of sight and they're not.
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Post by partickpotter on Jan 16, 2021 8:37:41 GMT
Well, that didn’t take long.
18 overs bowled and our part time off spinner takes the ball. Bear in mind we have 5 specialist bowlers in this team.
Sadly that 5 include one too many seamers and two, let’s be generous, spinners still finding their feet in test cricket.
This could get interesting.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 16, 2021 8:39:32 GMT
Looks like 80 and stick em in before lunch isn’t that wide of the mark. Maybe so, but I suspect you were thinking that the innings would come to an end with a declaration rather than dismissal. That morning session, with the honourable and glorious exception of Root (we’ll forgive him another dreadful run out), was a big disappointment. We lost 6 wickets for 49 runs. We should still win this game, but Sri Lanka have an opportunity, albeit remote, that they shouldn’t have been allowed. As mentioned yesterday, their objective will be to match our 1st innings score in their second innings. That may be a tall order but it isn’t impossible. Particularly with our bowling attack being seam heavy and spin light - Root may well have a significant role to play with the ball particularly if Bess continues to bowl with little control and Leach failing to turn the ball. That would leave us with a tricky run chase in our second innings. On the positive side - we could well have an exciting game of cricket to watch. Actually I’d prefer that to seeing another feeble effort from Sri Lanka with the bat and the game finished within 3 days. Pretty much did declare! I still think the strategy was get some quick runs and get Sri Lanka in ASAP. Agree with everything else and Sri Lanka have started their reply well.
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Post by claytonscrubs on Jan 16, 2021 8:42:22 GMT
No work today Watching cricket in bed Lovely jubbly
C’mon England! - we need a wicket.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jan 16, 2021 9:03:18 GMT
Bowling some tripe since lunch, Bess is yet again too short with his length and I'm convinced he's not good enough.
(Hopes he's proves me wrong and burgles a few wickets again)
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 16, 2021 9:04:51 GMT
Maybe so, but I suspect you were thinking that the innings would come to an end with a declaration rather than dismissal. That morning session, with the honourable and glorious exception of Root (we’ll forgive him another dreadful run out), was a big disappointment. We lost 6 wickets for 49 runs. We should still win this game, but Sri Lanka have an opportunity, albeit remote, that they shouldn’t have been allowed. As mentioned yesterday, their objective will be to match our 1st innings score in their second innings. That may be a tall order but it isn’t impossible. Particularly with our bowling attack being seam heavy and spin light - Root may well have a significant role to play with the ball particularly if Bess continues to bowl with little control and Leach failing to turn the ball. That would leave us with a tricky run chase in our second innings. On the positive side - we could well have an exciting game of cricket to watch. Actually I’d prefer that to seeing another feeble effort from Sri Lanka with the bat and the game finished within 3 days. Pretty much did declare! I still think the strategy was get some quick runs and get Sri Lanka in ASAP. Agree with everything else and Sri Lanka have started their reply well. Why would they do that when they have three whole days to win the match? Much more sensible to keep batting until they're out of sight, two solid days in the field for the Sri Lankans, and avoid any chance of letting them get back into the game, which it looks like they might have done! I think the reality is a bit of a classic England collapse which has left the door open...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 16, 2021 9:06:53 GMT
Pretty much did declare! I still think the strategy was get some quick runs and get Sri Lanka in ASAP. Agree with everything else and Sri Lanka have started their reply well. Why would they do that when they have three whole days to win the match? Much more sensible to keep batting until they're out of sight, two solid days in the field for the Sri Lankans, and avoid any chance of letting them get back into the game, which it looks like they might have done! I agree, it’s just what I thought would happen. They’re still a long way behind but we’re desperate for a break through. That’s 50 for 4 ducks in a row man😀
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 16, 2021 9:07:40 GMT
Bowling some tripe since lunch, Bess is yet again too short with his length and I'm convinced he's not good enough. (Hopes he's proves me wrong and burgles a few wickets again) He's not. He will need to go away and bowl lots of overs for Yorkshire to try and find some consistency of length. The Indians will absolutely love him.....
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