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Post by karl on May 6, 2021 12:18:05 GMT
You can see them getting relegated the deal falling through then the club in liquidation. New phoenix club in its place starting from the bottom of the football pyramid.
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Post by callas12 on May 9, 2021 10:28:52 GMT
Read a report that Alan Nixon was mentioned in that says Derby may have survived relegation but aside from the on & off buyout issues, their main concern is that an EFL investigation will likely dock them points into double figures for financial irregularities. Apparently they've known the threat was looming but kept it under wraps until the end of the season on field issues were resolved. Similar to what Sheff Weds had last year. Interesting times ahead for our neighbours down the A50..
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 9, 2021 14:26:00 GMT
Read a report that Alan Nixon was mentioned in that says Derby may have survived relegation but aside from the on & off buyout issues, their main concern is that an EFL investigation will likely dock them points into double figures for financial irregularities. Apparently they've known the threat was looming but kept it under wraps until the end of the season on field issues were resolved. Similar to what Sheff Weds had last year. Interesting times ahead for our neighbours down the A50.. Yes mate the local paper are reporting it as well
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on May 9, 2021 14:36:33 GMT
The past will catch up with them
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Post by callas12 on May 9, 2021 16:24:08 GMT
Heard Tony Dorigo on Talksport last night & he said that despite enjoying his 2 seasons with them his words were very honest & scathing.. "They've turned into a right basketcase of a club" he quoted & whilst they were lucky to scrape themselves out the relegation mire yesterday he does fear for their future!!
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Post by FullerMagic on May 10, 2021 11:00:33 GMT
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Post by lordb on May 10, 2021 11:03:44 GMT
Sheffield Weds onto their lawyers ASAP you'd think
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Post by theonlooker on May 10, 2021 11:08:15 GMT
Just do away with FFP and you solve this embarrassing mess to start with. Say what you want about Morris, but ultimately he's investing or trying to invest into the club he legally owns.
It's an absolute nonsense.
I still don't know what they are trying to achieve with it? Clubs are getting ruined by it and it isn't stopping rogue owners as shown by Bolton and Bury.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 10, 2021 11:11:42 GMT
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Post by Northy on May 10, 2021 11:12:35 GMT
Sheffield Weds onto their lawyers ASAP you'd think It's Wycombe that would stay up, could they afford a lawyer
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Post by lordb on May 10, 2021 11:15:05 GMT
Sheffield Weds onto their lawyers ASAP you'd think It's Wycombe that would stay up, could they afford a lawyer Even better
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Post by wagsastokie on May 10, 2021 11:16:36 GMT
I would say derby are pretty much down If the EFL do not deduct points than you would pretty much assume Sheffield wed would have a good case to have there points reinstated thus finishing higher than derby
If they deduct points Wycombe stop up at the expense of derby
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Post by FullerMagic on May 10, 2021 11:19:08 GMT
Just do away with FFP and you solve this embarrassing mess to start with. Say what you want about Morris, but ultimately he's investing or trying to invest into the club he legally owns. It's an absolute nonsense. I still don't know what they are trying to achieve with it? Clubs are getting ruined by it and it isn't stopping rogue owners as shown by Bolton and Bury. www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/198743-the-championship-ffp-thread-merged/page/78/#commentsInteresting FFP thread here. I didn't realise how close to the wind Reading were sailing.
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Post by spitthedog on May 10, 2021 11:41:27 GMT
Just do away with FFP and you solve this embarrassing mess to start with. Say what you want about Morris, but ultimately he's investing or trying to invest into the club he legally owns. It's an absolute nonsense. I still don't know what they are trying to achieve with it? Clubs are getting ruined by it and it isn't stopping rogue owners as shown by Bolton and Bury. www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/198743-the-championship-ffp-thread-merged/page/78/#commentsInteresting FFP thread here. I didn't realise how close to the wind Reading were sailing. Some excellent research going on there, thanks for sharing this
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Post by prestwichpotter on May 10, 2021 11:46:46 GMT
Just do away with FFP and you solve this embarrassing mess to start with. Say what you want about Morris, but ultimately he's investing or trying to invest into the club he legally owns. It's an absolute nonsense. I still don't know what they are trying to achieve with it? Clubs are getting ruined by it and it isn't stopping rogue owners as shown by Bolton and Bury. www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/198743-the-championship-ffp-thread-merged/page/78/#commentsInteresting FFP thread here. I didn't realise how close to the wind Reading were sailing. I’m sure I read somewhere their wage to revenue was something like 240% in 2019/20.......
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Post by theonlooker on May 10, 2021 11:53:28 GMT
Just do away with FFP and you solve this embarrassing mess to start with. Say what you want about Morris, but ultimately he's investing or trying to invest into the club he legally owns. It's an absolute nonsense. I still don't know what they are trying to achieve with it? Clubs are getting ruined by it and it isn't stopping rogue owners as shown by Bolton and Bury. www.otib.co.uk/index.php?/topic/198743-the-championship-ffp-thread-merged/page/78/#commentsInteresting FFP thread here. I didn't realise how close to the wind Reading were sailing. Yes I've been keeping tabs on that thread as the laundrette owner from Eastenders seems quite clued up.
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Post by chigstoke on May 10, 2021 11:57:57 GMT
If there is a God, he’d keep Wycombe up and send Derby down
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 10, 2021 11:58:32 GMT
I would say derby are pretty much down If the EFL do not deduct points than you would pretty much assume Sheffield wed would have a good case to have there points reinstated thus finishing higher than derby If they deduct points Wycombe stop up at the expense of derby Oh dear. How sad. Never mind.
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Post by Pedropotter on May 10, 2021 12:08:06 GMT
What a mess! I'd be amazed if any new sanctions are added to the old season. Its finished! Any deductions etc will take place next season surely? - I cant honestly see how they could relegate Derby now.
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Post by themistocles on May 10, 2021 12:15:20 GMT
They won't send them down. It'll be points deduction next year if anything..
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Post by bolders on May 10, 2021 12:56:09 GMT
What a mess! I'd be amazed if any new sanctions are added to the old season. Its finished! Any deductions etc will take place next season surely? - I cant honestly see how they could relegate Derby now. Season isn’t over yet technically, still goes till the playoffs have finished
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Post by ricksastokie on May 10, 2021 12:57:17 GMT
What a mess! I'd be amazed if any new sanctions are added to the old season. Its finished! Any deductions etc will take place next season surely? - I cant honestly see how they could relegate Derby now. It might be possible since the original case was brought against them this season.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on May 10, 2021 12:59:08 GMT
I would say derby are pretty much down If the EFL do not deduct points than you would pretty much assume Sheffield wed would have a good case to have there points reinstated thus finishing higher than derby If they deduct points Wycombe stop up at the expense of derby Oh dear. How sad. Never mind. Cue up Mr Davies.... ...and a -20 start for next season will do nicely
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Post by Pedropotter on May 10, 2021 13:01:30 GMT
What a mess! I'd be amazed if any new sanctions are added to the old season. Its finished! Any deductions etc will take place next season surely? - I cant honestly see how they could relegate Derby now. Season isn’t over yet technically, still goes till the playoffs have finished Fair point.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 10, 2021 13:44:00 GMT
Oh dear. How sad. Never mind. Cue up Mr Davies.... ...and a -20 start for next season will do nicely I thank you. I don't have the technical capacity to post memey thingies. No bollox to next season, relegate the fuckers now. I'd love to see that smug smile wiped off their faces so soon after celebrating like they'd won the FA cup.
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Post by flea79 on May 10, 2021 13:45:10 GMT
What a mess! I'd be amazed if any new sanctions are added to the old season. Its finished! Any deductions etc will take place next season surely? - I cant honestly see how they could relegate Derby now. also Wigan did not have the points removed last season till after all games had been played
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Post by Marc01 on May 10, 2021 13:51:51 GMT
What a mess! I'd be amazed if any new sanctions are added to the old season. Its finished! Any deductions etc will take place next season surely? - I cant honestly see how they could relegate Derby now. also Wigan did not have the points removed last season till after all games had been played And, it seems that, if Wigan had finished in the bottom 3 in results terms, then the penalty would have applied this season: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_EFL_Championship As a result of Wigan Athletic entering administration, the club was subject to a 12-point deduction. In accordance with EFL regulations, the timing of the sporting sanction was only determined once final league placings in the Championship were determined. Since the club did not finish in the relegation places at the end of season, the sanction was applied to their 2019–20 total and final league standings were amended as appropriate.[78]
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 10, 2021 13:58:08 GMT
also Wigan did not have the points removed last season till after all games had been played And, it seems that, if Wigan had finished in the bottom 3 in results terms, then the penalty would have applied this season: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_EFL_Championship As a result of Wigan Athletic entering administration, the club was subject to a 12-point deduction. In accordance with EFL regulations, the timing of the sporting sanction was only determined once final league placings in the Championship were determined. Since the club did not finish in the relegation places at the end of season, the sanction was applied to their 2019–20 total and final league standings were amended as appropriate.[78] I wonder if that's why the Sheepshaggers were so keen to keep the finding under wraps until after the season finished ie threatening Percy with a writ. That way they can say the ruling came after the end of the season so any penalty would apply next season. Wigan's penalty wasn't applied until after the season finished but they were found 'guilty' before the end of the season so the penalty was applied to that seasons standings. Derby knew full well 10 days ago ANY points deduction this season would relegate them but they might just make up a six point deficit next term. At least they'd be in with a fighting chance.
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Post by Pedropotter on May 10, 2021 14:02:46 GMT
And, it seems that, if Wigan had finished in the bottom 3 in results terms, then the penalty would have applied this season: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–20_EFL_Championship As a result of Wigan Athletic entering administration, the club was subject to a 12-point deduction. In accordance with EFL regulations, the timing of the sporting sanction was only determined once final league placings in the Championship were determined. Since the club did not finish in the relegation places at the end of season, the sanction was applied to their 2019–20 total and final league standings were amended as appropriate.[78] I wonder if that's why the Sheepshaggers were so keen to keep the finding under wraps until after the season finished ie threatening Percy with a writ. That way they can say the ruling came after the end of the season so any penalty would apply next season. Wigan's penalty wasn't applied until after the season finished but they were found 'guilty' before the end of the season so the penalty was applied to that seasons standings. Derby knew full well 10 days ago ANY points deduction this season would relegate them but they might just make up a six point deficit next term. At least they'd be in with a fighting chance. If that is indeed the case then it should be a 50 point deduction next season. Apart from anything else it is bringing the game into disrepute.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on May 10, 2021 14:03:54 GMT
I wonder if that's why the Sheepshaggers were so keen to keep the finding under wraps until after the season finished ie threatening Percy with a writ. That way they can say the ruling came after the end of the season so any penalty would apply next season. Wigan's penalty wasn't applied until after the season finished but they were found 'guilty' before the end of the season so the penalty was applied to that seasons standings. Derby knew full well 10 days ago ANY points deduction this season would relegate them but they might just make up a six point deficit next term. At least they'd be in with a fighting chance. If that is indeed the case then it should be a 50 point deduction next season. If not more.
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