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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 24, 2020 19:49:58 GMT
Since O’Neill took over👏
Take a bow and a Carabao Cup Qtr Final
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Oct 24, 2020 19:51:10 GMT
The difference it’s makes to my weekend mood than that under mad Nath 😳.
MoN is a superb manager
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 24, 2020 21:09:25 GMT
Since O’Neill took over👏 Take a bow and a Carabao Cup Qtr Final Have to say that’s very impressive |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 21:10:55 GMT
Play offs have to be the aim this season.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 24, 2020 21:14:03 GMT
Play offs have to be the aim this season. If we can keep Campbell, Souttar and Collins we have a chance. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 21:19:17 GMT
Play offs have to be the aim this season. If we can keep Campbell, Souttar and Collins we have a chance. We should do all we can to keep them. Getting promoted is worth more than the money. And if we don’t go up then sell one in the summer to balance the books. |
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Post by cousindupree on Oct 24, 2020 21:30:04 GMT
Play offs have to be the aim this season. there are quite a few on here who seem to think we are headed for a mid table finish. I really don't get that view. The stats under MON continue to suggests play offs. I know anything can happen in football, but we would need to have a serious un of poor form which hasn't happened under MON for us to drift away from the top six. Even the long term loss of a couple of key players is unlikely to have a huge detrimental effect as we have most bases covered. In fact I would be surprised if many other championship teams have such strength in depth. I am usually pessimistic where Stoke are concerned but it would be a huge disappointment and indeed a major missed opportunity if we are not in the promotion shake up. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 21:45:34 GMT
Play offs have to be the aim this season. there are quite a few on here who seem to think we are headed for a mid table finish. I really don't get that view. The stats under MON continue to suggests play offs. I know anything can happen in football, but we would need to have a serious un of poor form which hasn't happened under MON for us to drift away from the top six. Even the long term loss of a couple of key players is unlikely to have a huge detrimental effect as we have most bases covered. In fact I would be surprised if many other championship teams have such strength in depth. I am usually pessimistic where Stoke are concerned but it would be a huge disappointment and indeed a major missed opportunity if we are not in the promotion shake up. I can see why we might end up midtable but I think it’s the absolute minimum this season, the worst case scenario. As you say the stats under MON say play off push. The goals in this side are phenomenal imo and it’s something we haven’t had the club for ages. I get why people are playing it down. They’ve had their arses bitten with Rowett and Jones but this is completely different. MON is so much better than them pair. The team is so much better now and we have some real quality but in all areas of the spine of the team. |
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Post by stokiemac on Oct 24, 2020 21:48:27 GMT
Out of interest if that were from the start of last season that would put us 6th 3 points ahead of Cardiff in 7th 3 points behind Brentford and 4 behind Fulham. Considering the first handful of games we're getting to grips with the team, realistically you could say we don't need to improve just repeat that form and we will be in the mix come (insert month and year this season will end)
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Post by kustokie on Oct 24, 2020 21:53:41 GMT
Play offs have to be the aim this season. there are quite a few on here who seem to think we are headed for a mid table finish. I really don't get that view. The stats under MON continue to suggests play offs. I know anything can happen in football, but we would need to have a serious un of poor form which hasn't happened under MON for us to drift away from the top six. Even the long term loss of a couple of key players is unlikely to have a huge detrimental effect as we have most bases covered. In fact I would be surprised if many other championship teams have such strength in depth. I am usually pessimistic where Stoke are concerned but it would be a huge disappointment and indeed a major missed opportunity if we are not in the promotion shake up. It is way too early to tell. If we are close to or in the top 6 by Christmas I’ll feel a lot more confident. We have to cut out stupid defensive mistakes. Also we are very vulnerable to injuries to a few key players, such as Mikkel, Davies, and one or more the centre forwards. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 21:54:22 GMT
there are quite a few on here who seem to think we are headed for a mid table finish. I really don't get that view. The stats under MON continue to suggests play offs. I know anything can happen in football, but we would need to have a serious un of poor form which hasn't happened under MON for us to drift away from the top six. Even the long term loss of a couple of key players is unlikely to have a huge detrimental effect as we have most bases covered. In fact I would be surprised if many other championship teams have such strength in depth. I am usually pessimistic where Stoke are concerned but it would be a huge disappointment and indeed a major missed opportunity if we are not in the promotion shake up. It is way too early to tell. If we are close to or in the top 6 by Christmas I’ll feel a lot more confident. We have to cut out stupid defensive mistakes. Also we are very vulnerable to injuries to a few key players, such as Mikkel, Davies, and one or more the centre forwards. Who isn’t in this league? |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 24, 2020 23:47:08 GMT
Play offs have to be the aim this season. If we can keep Campbell, Souttar and Collins we have a chance. Why wouldn't we? |
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Post by callas12 on Oct 25, 2020 0:28:05 GMT
Paul Merson was covering our game on Sky & he was very impressed with our performance & commented that we should definitely be there or there abouts this season & quoted us a good possibility for the Play offs. He described Fletcher as a great striker who knows where the net is & is great with his head. But he also commented on how good & pacey we were either side of him with Campbell & Brown. He said he can see alot of Tyrese's dad in him.
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Post by leegthestokie90 on Oct 25, 2020 1:59:32 GMT
Paul Merson was covering our game on Sky & he was very impressed with our performance & commented that we should definitely be there or there abouts this season & quoted us a good possibility for the Play offs. He described Fletcher as a great striker who knows where the net is & is great with his head. But he also commented on how good & pacey we were either side of him with Campbell & Brown. He said he can see alot of Tyrese's dad in him. Paul merson always been good pundit always been positive towards us in the premier league so got time for Merse |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Oct 25, 2020 6:14:53 GMT
there are quite a few on here who seem to think we are headed for a mid table finish. I really don't get that view. The stats under MON continue to suggests play offs. I know anything can happen in football, but we would need to have a serious un of poor form which hasn't happened under MON for us to drift away from the top six. Even the long term loss of a couple of key players is unlikely to have a huge detrimental effect as we have most bases covered. In fact I would be surprised if many other championship teams have such strength in depth. I am usually pessimistic where Stoke are concerned but it would be a huge disappointment and indeed a major missed opportunity if we are not in the promotion shake up. It is way too early to tell. If we are close to or in the top 6 by Christmas I’ll feel a lot more confident. We have to cut out stupid defensive mistakes. Also we are very vulnerable to injuries to a few key players, such as Mikkel, Davies, and one or more the centre forwards. Think people are looking at the 38 games he has been manager and the 60 points won. That is a reasonable statistic to make fans optimistic of a successful season given the improvements to the squad. As you say it may be too early but the signs are there for sure. |
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Post by telfordstokie on Oct 25, 2020 6:18:17 GMT
Exciting thing for me this season is that we clearly have plenty of room for improvement but are already well in the mix for the promotion places.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 25, 2020 6:43:40 GMT
Since O’Neill took over👏 Take a bow and a Carabao Cup Qtr Final Have to say that’s very impressive Even more so when you look at the mess we were in when he took over and the points tally we had up till then. That makes his achievement even more impressive |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 25, 2020 7:10:49 GMT
MON is tweaking the 3 at the back system to make us slowly more attacking. McClean made a huge difference yesterday.
The balance is looking much better at the moment. I still think we need to be be stronger in central midfield. Allen would walk back into this side TBH.
He is clearly a good manager. I thought his substitutions were spot on yesterday
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 25, 2020 7:41:41 GMT
If we can keep Campbell, Souttar and Collins we have a chance. Why wouldn't we? Because bigger clubs will come in for them and offer us a lot of money which we'll need for FFP. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 7:43:55 GMT
There's actually no reason why we can't have a tilt at the top two spots, if we get a fair run of luck with injuries and the manager can regularly find goals in the team.
This league is utter shit this year. There is absolutely nobody to be frightened of.
There is no team that should runaway with it.
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Post by chuckrocky on Oct 25, 2020 7:57:24 GMT
There's actually no reason why we can't have a tilt at the top two spots, if we get a fair run of luck with injuries and the manager can regularly find goals in the team. This league is utter shit this year. There is absolutely nobody to be frightened of. There is no team that should runaway with it. Injuries are going to play a big part this season, I read an article the other day that said there have already been 40% more muscle injuries in the Premier League than there was at the same point last season. We have a huge squad and can quite easily make 3/4 changes to the side without weakening it, this will give us the edge over a lot of sides who simply don’t have the strength in depth. |
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Post by tachyon on Oct 25, 2020 9:53:04 GMT
If you take every game played after our 2-0 defeat by WBA under Delap, the quality of chances created and allowed by all 30 teams who played a Championship game since MON took over, we are the third best side currently still in this division. Brentford are the best, Bournemouth the second best and Derby are the 20th best. There's around half a goal per game between us & Derby, which is around the same gap in performance levels between Leeds and WBA (3rd) over that period. So there's not a lot of difference, individually, between many of the teams from us to Derby. Brentford are the standout side, Coventry, Wycombe & Rotherham are somewhat adrift.  |
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