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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 24, 2020 19:09:27 GMT
They are. 😂 they’re 11th. We’re not on about the Brentford of last season here. It was a good win but what part of them actually being 11th, not being in great form is hard to understand? Playing below par fair enough. 6. Possibly 5. But four players at that level? When beating a decent side? And a 3. It’s attention seeking and you know it. |
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Post by loustokiefc on Oct 24, 2020 19:13:14 GMT
🤔🤔🤔 those of you who think Thompson and Brown had bad games are fucking idiots and do not understand the value of teamwork. Brown was non stop pressing all game and allowed us to be on the front foot. Not only that but his runs created space for the likes of Fletcher/Mcclean/Tyrese. Thompsons positioning was outstanding/ blocking up gaps and covering for those out of position around him and when he had the ball, for the majority used it very well. the things that often go unnoticed are just as important as the things in the limelight. After about 65 minutes when John Obi’s legs stopped, he also had to cover the work of two men in midfield. John obi was class until the 65th minute tho mind!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 19:21:06 GMT
They are. 😂 they’re 11th. We’re not on about the Brentford of last season here. It was a good win but what part of them actually being 11th, not being in great form is hard to understand? Playing below par fair enough. 6. Possibly 5. But four players at that level? When beating a decent side? And a 3. It’s attention seeking and you know it. No. 5 is average. That’s the starting point. Thompson and Smith were below average. |
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Post by liathroid on Oct 24, 2020 19:22:58 GMT
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Post by chiswickpotter on Oct 24, 2020 19:36:32 GMT
🤔🤔🤔 those of you who think Thompson and Brown had bad games are fucking idiots and do not understand the value of teamwork. Brown was non stop pressing all game and allowed us to be on the front foot. Not only that but his runs created space for the likes of Fletcher/Mcclean/Tyrese. Thompsons positioning was outstanding/ blocking up gaps and covering for those out of position around him and when he had the ball, for the majority used it very well. the things that often go unnoticed are just as important as the things in the limelight. After about 65 minutes when John Obi’s legs stopped, he also had to cover the work of two men in midfield. John obi was class until the 65th minute tho mind! Exactly right. Starting point is how do you score the team. I would say scoring 3 and generally keeping probably the best team un the league form creating chances is an 8 or 9 display for the team. We set up to have less possession so those stats are meaningless in the context of today's game. Hard for many individuals to be below a 7 in a strong team performance and interestingly the manger praised the role of the wing backs and central midfielders and Brown and Campbell because they had the key roles in the team and did the hard yards. Smith got caught out behind a couple of times but that was because he was told to press high and Collins couldn't help because we went man for man. Second half Mikel and Thompson against 3 and only allowed one ball to be slipped in from the centre, which Souttar should have covered. I would agree with the manager's hint and say 8 for the players he mentioned and Fletcher, with 9 for Campbell and McClean, 7 for Souttar and Chester, 8 for Collins for giving Toney a hard time and maybe 6 or 7 for Davies who I thought might have saved one of the two |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 19:52:39 GMT
🤔🤔🤔 those of you who think Thompson and Brown had bad games are fucking idiots and do not understand the value of teamwork. Brown was non stop pressing all game and allowed us to be on the front foot. Not only that but his runs created space for the likes of Fletcher/Mcclean/Tyrese. Thompsons positioning was outstanding/ blocking up gaps and covering for those out of position around him and when he had the ball, for the majority used it very well. the things that often go unnoticed are just as important as the things in the limelight. After about 65 minutes when John Obi’s legs stopped, he also had to cover the work of two men in midfield. John obi was class until the 65th minute tho mind! Spot on observation that, i hardly ever post but that Bayern doesn't know what he's on about. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 24, 2020 20:27:12 GMT
Playing below par fair enough. 6. Possibly 5. But four players at that level? When beating a decent side? And a 3. It’s attention seeking and you know it. No. 5 is average. That’s the starting point. Thompson and Smith were below average. Does it strike you as odd that nobody else has marked him less than 5? And that he’s probably averaging around 7? Are you right? Everyone else wrong? Or do you just like being different for the sake of it? Like I said, a bit of an attention seeker? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 20:38:32 GMT
Davies - 6 Did well enough, no chance for the goals. Smith - 4 Absolute liability, good job we shipped Edwards off because hes fat or drinks or whatever the rumours were  Collins - 6.5 Had a good game, I like how he come out and looks to nip their attacks in the bud, same goes for Souttar Souttar - 7 He gets key passes in. Real talent I like how he and Souttar dominate in the air too, exactly what we need. Chester - 5 Not what we need, he's either not up to speed or finished and that's me being kind. McClean - 7 Needed to come in for Tymon based on performances - did really well. Mikel - 5 I'm still not sold on this at all, I think his legs have gone, he frequently gets caught on the ball. he does have really good vision but he didnt display it today, they swamped him in the second half Thompson - 4 Same goes here MON put him in to rotate with Clucas (who barely justifies his place) but he offered fuck all and got dominated throughout. Brown - 5 energy that we needed, I don't know what his role is though? thought he was quite ineffective Fletcher - 7 Did well then tired loads Campbell - 7 Seemed to have a freer role and did well Tymon 2 - Schoolboy stuff, really bad. TOB 4 - Hope he comes good but I just don't see what you lot do, looks out of his depth |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 21:02:17 GMT
No. 5 is average. That’s the starting point. Thompson and Smith were below average. Does it strike you as odd that nobody else has marked him less than 5? And that he’s probably averaging around 7? Are you right? Everyone else wrong? Or do you just like being different for the sake of it? Like I said, a bit of an attention seeker? Generally yes I am right yes. No and I don’t know why it bothers people 😂 I find it most odd. |
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Post by foxysgloves on Oct 24, 2020 21:02:53 GMT
Does it strike you as odd that nobody else has marked him less than 5? And that he’s probably averaging around 7? Are you right? Everyone else wrong? Or do you just like being different for the sake of it? Like I said, a bit of an attention seeker? Generally yes I am right yes. No and I don’t know why it bothers people 😂 I find it most odd. Here endeth the lesson 🤯 |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 21:04:38 GMT
Generally yes I am right yes. No and I don’t know why it bothers people 😂 I find it most odd. Here endeth the lesson 🤯 Just google L’Equipe ratings. They do it proper. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 24, 2020 21:17:10 GMT
Which idiot would mark Thompson a 3? He was a good, solid 7. Worked exceptionally hard at closing angles along with Mikel. The pair of them were the cornerstone of the first half. Thompson did nothing bar a good block and clearance in the box, average would be puting it kindly. 3 is harsh but he would be no more than an average 5 for me. |
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 24, 2020 21:20:56 GMT
Davies - 6 Did well enough, no chance for the goals. Smith - 4 Absolute liability, good job we shipped Edwards off because hes fat or drinks or whatever the rumours were Collins - 6.5 Had a good game, I like how he come out and looks to nip their attacks in the bud, same goes for Souttar Souttar - 7 He gets key passes in. Real talent I like how he and Souttar dominate in the air too, exactly what we need. Chester - 5 Not what we need, he's either not up to speed or finished and that's me being kind. McClean - 7 Needed to come in for Tymon based on performances - did really well. Mikel - 5 I'm still not sold on this at all, I think his legs have gone, he frequently gets caught on the ball. he does have really good vision but he didnt display it today, they swamped him in the second half Thompson - 4 Same goes here MON put him in to rotate with Clucas (who barely justifies his place) but he offered fuck all and got dominated throughout. Brown - 5 energy that we needed, I don't know what his role is though? thought he was quite ineffective Fletcher - 7 Did well then tired loads Campbell - 7 Seemed to have a freer role and did well Tymon 2 - Schoolboy stuff, really bad. TOB 4 - Hope he comes good but I just don't see what you lot do, looks out of his depth Haha wannabe 🤣 |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 24, 2020 21:21:11 GMT
Anywhere that shows if his passes were forward or back etc, I see someone mentions positive passing but I only remember one that could be classed as overly possitive? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 21:21:45 GMT
Which idiot would mark Thompson a 3? He was a good, solid 7. Worked exceptionally hard at closing angles along with Mikel. The pair of them were the cornerstone of the first half. Thompson did nothing bar a good block and clearance in the box, average would be puting it kindly. 3 is harsh but he would be no more than an average 5 for me. He wasn't meant to anything jaw dropping in that role though, he's not there to play the final ball he is there to keep things ticking over. You need someone in that two man midfield who isn't going to lose the ball, isn't too direct necessarily and should be pretty much under the radar, N'Zonzi is the epitome of the type of player I would want in that position. I love Clucas but we looked much better without him in that role, as he is too direct and prone to losing the ball or being caught out of position because he can't resist trying to make something happen. I thought Mikel and Jordan were both excellent today, especially Mikel. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 24, 2020 21:23:06 GMT
Davies - 6 no chance with either goal Smith - 6 struggled against Henry Collins - 6 very quiet game Souttar - 7 commanding Chester - 5 he scares the shit out of me McClean - 7 close for man of the match Mikel - 7 great first 65 mins then disappeared Thompson - 6 didn't even realise he was on the pitch Brown - 6 poor outing Fletcher 6 - scored but didn't do much else Campbell - 7 MOM over Souttar (just) Vokes - 5 Oakley Booth - not on long enough Tymon - 4 what a piss poor sub appearance Thompson and Fletcher did alot of good work today much better than your comments. Can I ask what good work he did, I'm not trying to dig at him but I just don't see it, I ask you because a few on here seem to just want to call people an idiot etc whenever someone disagrees. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 21:26:04 GMT
Anywhere that shows if his passes were forward or back etc, I see someone mentions positive passing but I only remember one that could be classed as overly possitive? Not sure tbh but I don’t think it was. And indeed Mikel is the far more positive with his passing. He’s just the ultimate nothing player. I don’t think he did anything today. And I can’t see how people thought he played even ok. Even with keeping shape, it just wasn’t there. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 24, 2020 21:28:23 GMT
Thompson did nothing bar a good block and clearance in the box, average would be puting it kindly. 3 is harsh but he would be no more than an average 5 for me. He wasn't meant to anything jaw dropping in that role though, he's not there to play the final ball he is there to keep things ticking over. You need someone in that two man midfield who isn't going to lose the ball, isn't too direct necessarily and should be pretty much under the radar, N'Zonzi is the epitome of the type of player I would want in that position. I love Clucas but we looked much better without him in that role, as he is too direct and prone to losing the ball or being caught out of position because he can't resist trying to make something happen. I thought Mikel and Jordan were both excellent today, especially Mikel. He did lose the ball though as the stats suggest, he didn't win the ball back he didn't really put any pressure on the oppo and disappeared a bit when we had the ball. N'Zonzi would be a dream in that position I agree and I don't think Thompson is even close to that kind of player, N'Zonzi had a great range of passing as well as being able to keep the ball, I think Boothe is more that kind of player from what little we've seen of him. Mikel had a good game though I agree, kept it calm and simple when he needed to and put the odd ball forward to start an attack. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 24, 2020 21:29:07 GMT
Anywhere that shows if his passes were forward or back etc, I see someone mentions positive passing but I only remember one that could be classed as overly possitive? Not sure tbh but I don’t think it was. And indeed Mikel is the far more positive with his passing. He’s just the ultimate nothing player. I don’t think he did anything today. And I can’t see how people thought he played even ok. Even with keeping shape, it just wasn’t there. He strikes me as a lower league Allen without the running tbh. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 21:30:38 GMT
Not sure tbh but I don’t think it was. And indeed Mikel is the far more positive with his passing. He’s just the ultimate nothing player. I don’t think he did anything today. And I can’t see how people thought he played even ok. Even with keeping shape, it just wasn’t there. He strikes me as a lower league Allen without the running tbh. Yeah at least for everything I hate with Allen he has got that energy and can be a pain in the arse. I don’t think he even has that. He just does nothing. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 22:11:49 GMT
He wasn't meant to anything jaw dropping in that role though, he's not there to play the final ball he is there to keep things ticking over. You need someone in that two man midfield who isn't going to lose the ball, isn't too direct necessarily and should be pretty much under the radar, N'Zonzi is the epitome of the type of player I would want in that position. I love Clucas but we looked much better without him in that role, as he is too direct and prone to losing the ball or being caught out of position because he can't resist trying to make something happen. I thought Mikel and Jordan were both excellent today, especially Mikel. He did lose the ball though as the stats suggest, he didn't win the ball back he didn't really put any pressure on the oppo and disappeared a bit when we had the ball. N'Zonzi would be a dream in that position I agree and I don't think Thompson is even close to that kind of player, N'Zonzi had a great range of passing as well as being able to keep the ball, I think Boothe is more that kind of player from what little we've seen of him. Mikel had a good game though I agree, kept it calm and simple when he needed to and put the odd ball forward to start an attack. Fair enough, to be fair I didn't catch the last half hour as I had to drive my girlfriend to the train station, but until then I did think Thompson was a reasonably big factor in our scoring three goals. Can't speak for his hand in our conceding of the two however in all fairness! Definitely an odd one cause Clucas is one of our best players and I can't imagine Allen playing that role well for as much as I like him he isn't the most reliable of passers either often. In MON I trust though. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 22:13:16 GMT
He did lose the ball though as the stats suggest, he didn't win the ball back he didn't really put any pressure on the oppo and disappeared a bit when we had the ball. N'Zonzi would be a dream in that position I agree and I don't think Thompson is even close to that kind of player, N'Zonzi had a great range of passing as well as being able to keep the ball, I think Boothe is more that kind of player from what little we've seen of him. Mikel had a good game though I agree, kept it calm and simple when he needed to and put the odd ball forward to start an attack. Fair enough, to be fair I didn't catch the last half hour as I had to drive my girlfriend to the train station, but until then I did think Thompson was a reasonably big factor in our scoring three goals. Can't speak for his hand in our conceding of the two however in all fairness! Definitely an odd one cause Clucas is one of our best players and I can't imagine Allen playing that role well for as much as I like him he isn't the most reliable of passers either often. In MON I trust though. The goals? What did he do? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 22:27:42 GMT
Davies - 6 Did well enough, no chance for the goals. Smith - 4 Absolute liability, good job we shipped Edwards off because hes fat or drinks or whatever the rumours were Collins - 6.5 Had a good game, I like how he come out and looks to nip their attacks in the bud, same goes for Souttar Souttar - 7 He gets key passes in. Real talent I like how he and Souttar dominate in the air too, exactly what we need. Chester - 5 Not what we need, he's either not up to speed or finished and that's me being kind. McClean - 7 Needed to come in for Tymon based on performances - did really well. Mikel - 5 I'm still not sold on this at all, I think his legs have gone, he frequently gets caught on the ball. he does have really good vision but he didnt display it today, they swamped him in the second half Thompson - 4 Same goes here MON put him in to rotate with Clucas (who barely justifies his place) but he offered fuck all and got dominated throughout. Brown - 5 energy that we needed, I don't know what his role is though? thought he was quite ineffective Fletcher - 7 Did well then tired loads Campbell - 7 Seemed to have a freer role and did well Tymon 2 - Schoolboy stuff, really bad. TOB 4 - Hope he comes good but I just don't see what you lot do, looks out of his depth Haha wannabe 🤣 Make a useful point or fuck off  This board used to have a sense of humour when people disagreed, now its just boring with that sort of 'content. Snore... |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 22:39:01 GMT
Fair enough, to be fair I didn't catch the last half hour as I had to drive my girlfriend to the train station, but until then I did think Thompson was a reasonably big factor in our scoring three goals. Can't speak for his hand in our conceding of the two however in all fairness! Definitely an odd one cause Clucas is one of our best players and I can't imagine Allen playing that role well for as much as I like him he isn't the most reliable of passers either often. In MON I trust though. The goals? What did he do? As in contributing positively to our good play in a period where we scored three goals, not directly. God you can't wait to pile on him. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 22:41:48 GMT
The goals? What did he do? As in contributing positively to our good play in a period where we scored three goals, not directly. God you can't wait to pile on him. So nothing he did directly? What? 😂 No, I just see people saying he played well and did stuff then actually can’t back it up. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 24, 2020 22:47:43 GMT
Make a useful point or fuck off This board used to have a sense of humour when people disagreed, now its just boring with that sort of 'content. Snore... He isn't here to make a decent contribution, just here to accuse people of agendas and offer zero in the way of decent discussion. |
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Oct 24, 2020 22:52:04 GMT
this board would be so much better without you know who clogging up every thread with it's opinions as facts.
so tedious now, every thread gets derailed and turns into a "i'm right, you're wrong" slanging match
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 23:02:26 GMT
this board would be so much better without you know who clogging up every thread with it's opinions as facts. so tedious now, every thread gets derailed and turns into a "i'm right, you're wrong" slanging match I posted my player ratings on a player ratings thread then got abuse for it. 😂😂 The issue definitely isn’t mine. |
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Post by a on Oct 24, 2020 23:20:00 GMT
Davies - 6 - didn’t do owt really Smith - 4 - really poor I thought Collins - 6 - steady Souttar - 7 - poor for the goal but stopped a goal with that block and was commanding Chester - 5 thought he was poor for the first too but didn’t do anything to redeem it McClean - 8 - really good today and a vital part of the attacking play. Mikel - 5 - thought, ok on the ball, no presence in the middle though. Thompson - 3 - AWOL Brown - 6 - won a decent amount of flick one and made some good runs Fletcher - 8 - thought he was class. Campbell - 9 - about his best game for us I thought. Moron I think the word is Agenda |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 24, 2020 23:25:49 GMT
I think the word is Agenda Who actually believes in that shit? And I have an agenda against Davies and McClean apparently so what the fuck what wrong there? And I don’t overly Chester either and still gave him an Average score despite messing up for a goal! 😂 |
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