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Post by franklin on Oct 24, 2020 12:29:50 GMT
So your saying it wouldn't have happened with a different government and the fact billions has been stolen is Boris's fault right ? That's your straw man? HMRC is not part of this government. Tony Blair did nothing to tackle tax avoidance/ evasion and is Godparent to Murdochs daughter. The people of this country have watched those with more pay less tax for a couple of generations, all while the telly turns people against someone on benefits who has a big telly. But in answer to your straw man, I dont think I've ever known a British government so bereft of basic decency. So the situation is likely worsening rather than getting better. What's any of that waffle got to do with people stealing money from the furlough scheme. Edit: that could have paid many times over for free children's food along with users tax.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Oct 24, 2020 12:36:15 GMT
That's your straw man? HMRC is not part of this government. Tony Blair did nothing to tackle tax avoidance/ evasion and is Godparent to Murdochs daughter. The people of this country have watched those with more pay less tax for a couple of generations, all while the telly turns people against someone on benefits who has a big telly. But in answer to your straw man, I dont think I've ever known a British government so bereft of basic decency. So the situation is likely worsening rather than getting better. What's any of that waffle got to do with people stealing money from the furlough scheme. You're a charmer, arent you? Well mr non sequitor, what's people abusing furlough got to do with HMRC having to be forced into taking VAT from UBER?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 12:40:15 GMT
What's any of that waffle got to do with people stealing money from the furlough scheme. You're a charmer, arent you? Well mr non sequitor, what's people abusing furlough got to do with HMRC having to be forced into taking VAT from UBER? It's best not to engage with him mate. He's a veteran bootlicker and not all that bright. He is prolific though, and that goes a long way on here.
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Post by franklin on Oct 24, 2020 12:46:08 GMT
What's any of that waffle got to do with people stealing money from the furlough scheme. You're a charmer, arent you? Well mr non sequitor, what's people abusing furlough got to do with HMRC having to be forced into taking VAT from UBER? They should pay tax and the right amount 100% agree, you made a post about uber i said so would the stolen money from furlough. You mentioned morals I asked would it have been any different under another government. And you waffled on about HMRC not me so the answer is nothing to connect them other than the money could have paid many times over for free food to children.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 24, 2020 12:49:37 GMT
Not only do these cunts not want to feed hungry children, they want to punish those that do.
Beneath Fucking Contempt
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Post by ColonelMustard on Oct 24, 2020 12:53:52 GMT
You're a charmer, arent you? Well mr non sequitor, what's people abusing furlough got to do with HMRC having to be forced into taking VAT from UBER? They should pay tax and the right amount 100% agree, you made a post about uber i said so would the stolen money from furlough. You mentioned morals I asked would it have been any different under another government. And you waffled on about HMRC not me so the answer is nothing to connect them other than the money could have paid many times over for free food to children. The abused furlough is wrong. The business rates grant's also went to every business even if they were food businesses that could stay open. Much of the economic stimulus has been very blunt. It has, I would venture, all stayed within the UK and businesses are spending that money on surviving, investing etc. The VAT from Uber will have left these shores and not stimulated anything. It doesnt justify the abuse, but it is a key difference.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Oct 24, 2020 12:54:08 GMT
It’s a sorry state of affairs when a debate even has to be held on whether the state should help to feed starving children, never mind that the people elected to represent their constituents and those children then vote against it. I thought that last week was an all time low when Burnham was being accused of ‘playing politics’ for standing up for his people and trying to ensure that people wouldn’t fall into financial hardship due to government imposed measures. Somehow they managed to trump it this week. All of this is the backdrop of Covid, people having not seen family and friends all year, job losses, forced business closures, furlough, etc. At least it will give the government a few more million quid to spunk up the wall or give to their donors. I absolutely fucking despair at the actions of this government. The actions of Rashford, local businesses, charities and volunteers highlight what a truly vindictive and heartless bunch they really are.And probably cynically calculating too. Something along the lines of "we have an 80 seat majority, we've got four years until the next election, we're perfectly safe to do all this stuff for sometime, before we need to start offering tax bribes and stop being the "nasty party" again to sweep up the gullible once more as we approach the next election". You just have to hope people remember this stuff, but they probably won't.
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Post by Cast no shadow on Oct 24, 2020 12:55:54 GMT
I'm Not having the 1 in 3 children are going hungry 'story' going around.
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Post by franklin on Oct 24, 2020 13:06:56 GMT
They should pay tax and the right amount 100% agree, you made a post about uber i said so would the stolen money from furlough. You mentioned morals I asked would it have been any different under another government. And you waffled on about HMRC not me so the answer is nothing to connect them other than the money could have paid many times over for free food to children. The abused furlough is wrong. The business rates grant's also went to every business even if they were food businesses that could stay open. Much of the economic stimulus has been very blunt. It has, I would venture, all stayed within the UK and businesses are spending that money on surviving, investing etc. The VAT from Uber will have left these shores and not stimulated anything. It doesnt justify the abuse, but it is a key difference. No argument over uber or anyone else who doesn't pay the correct tax but forgive me but are you saying fraudulent abuse of furlough to the tune of 2billion plus did not happen and that it could not have helped to feed children.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Oct 24, 2020 13:13:36 GMT
The abused furlough is wrong. The business rates grant's also went to every business even if they were food businesses that could stay open. Much of the economic stimulus has been very blunt. It has, I would venture, all stayed within the UK and businesses are spending that money on surviving, investing etc. The VAT from Uber will have left these shores and not stimulated anything. It doesnt justify the abuse, but it is a key difference. No argument over uber or anyone else who doesn't pay the correct tax but forgive me but are you saying fraudulent abuse of furlough to the tune of 2billion plus did not happen and that it could not have helped to feed children. I really dont know what point you are trying to make. I've never said the furlough money couldnt be used for other stimulus. Have I? You brought up the furlough for whatever reason in response to my article regarding the high level off shore tax evasion with the blessing of HMRC. Its seems youd have been better off agreeing wholeheartedly with my post and saying or we could have used the abused furlough money, or the 12 billion given to serco, or in fact just got the bank of England to QE a little bit more. Etc. For whatever reason, we are told there is no money to feed the kids of the least well off in this country in this crisis.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 24, 2020 13:14:06 GMT
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Post by franklin on Oct 24, 2020 13:24:08 GMT
No argument over uber or anyone else who doesn't pay the correct tax but forgive me but are you saying fraudulent abuse of furlough to the tune of 2billion plus did not happen and that it could not have helped to feed children. I really dont know what point you are trying to make. I've never said the furlough money couldnt be used for other stimulus. Have I? You brought up the furlough for whatever reason in response to my article regarding the high level off shore tax evasion with the blessing of HMRC. Its seems youd have been better off agreeing wholeheartedly with my post and saying or we could have used the abused furlough money, or the 12 billion given to serco, or in fact just got the bank of England to QE a little bit more. Etc. For whatever reason, we are told there is no money to feed the kids of the least well off in this country in this crisis. The same reason you bought up Uber to show there are multiple reasons and places where the money could come from to pay for food. Nothing more than that the only difference in our two examples is yours is a long standing decades old reason who nobody has addressed regardless of party, tax evasion/ avoidance and mine is relevant to this years issues. Im sure you agree both are theft and both could have eased pressues on the less well off.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Oct 24, 2020 13:28:46 GMT
I really dont know what point you are trying to make. I've never said the furlough money couldnt be used for other stimulus. Have I? You brought up the furlough for whatever reason in response to my article regarding the high level off shore tax evasion with the blessing of HMRC. Its seems youd have been better off agreeing wholeheartedly with my post and saying or we could have used the abused furlough money, or the 12 billion given to serco, or in fact just got the bank of England to QE a little bit more. Etc. For whatever reason, we are told there is no money to feed the kids of the least well off in this country in this crisis. The same reason you bought up Uber to show there are multiple reasons and places where the money could come from to pay for food. Nothing more than that the only difference in our two examples is yours is a long standing decades old reason who nobody has addressed regardless of party, tax evasion/ avoidance and mine is relevant to this years issues. Im sure you agree both are theft and both could have eased pressues on the less well off. We are basically in agreement. I think you seem focused on the fact that I understand (and anticipate) companies trying to survive a pandemic abusing/ misusing furlough a lot more than I do HMRC not trying to collect a fortune in tax to the point they actually fight a court case to maintain the position. Ot doesn't fit into my understanding of HMRC or human nature. I think we both agree that neither of these amounts of money would actually make any difference to feeding the hungry kinds. It's an ideological decision, not a fiscal one.
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Post by daisydog on Oct 24, 2020 13:29:32 GMT
Well, I was a civil servant in Whitehall and I can honestly tell you that I never enjoyed that kind of food at those prices! Franklin has given a long list of people eligible for said subsidised food but there is one group he omits to mention and that’s the police? I wonder why? Because I copied and pasted it from the HoC website verbatim. But again bravo for your childish innuendo it wins we over. But again just for clarity I'm not a cop i was and despite the jibes I'm not ashamed or embarrassed im proud of what I did. Shame others cant say the same about their contribution to society. Read the menu, at the top it says MEMBERS dining room.
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Post by franklin on Oct 24, 2020 13:46:21 GMT
The same reason you bought up Uber to show there are multiple reasons and places where the money could come from to pay for food. Nothing more than that the only difference in our two examples is yours is a long standing decades old reason who nobody has addressed regardless of party, tax evasion/ avoidance and mine is relevant to this years issues. Im sure you agree both are theft and both could have eased pressues on the less well off. We are basically in agreement. I think you seem focused on the fact that I understand (and anticipate) companies trying to survive a pandemic abusing/ misusing furlough a lot more than I do HMRC not trying to collect a fortune in tax to the point they actually fight a court case to maintain the position. Ot doesn't fit into my understanding of HMRC or human nature. I think we both agree that neither of these amounts of money would actually make any difference to feeding the hungry kinds. It's an ideological decision, not a fiscal one. We do but it would help, its always good to have more than one example of wrong doing. On this subject I condem it but unlike the one eyed fanatic/s who stalks this side on the board i try and be fair despite the response to me saying so. Watch and see.....
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 24, 2020 13:48:37 GMT
I'm Not having the 1 in 3 children are going hungry 'story' going around. Me neither and I work in a community which in parts could be described as being poor. A lot of the issues revolve around how the benefits they do receive are spent. From speaking to some of those on benefits with children they receive in excess of 1000 pounds a month. Unfortuntely some of those Families do not utilise the funds in the way they should namely on their children choosing to invest in more “luxury” items for themselves. No young person should go hungry but I don’t think it’s as black and white as some would want you to believe. Those in need should be supported but families shouldn’t have money thrown at them without any accountability for what they spend it on leaving them with excess money to spend on items non essesntial.
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Post by franklin on Oct 24, 2020 13:48:57 GMT
Because I copied and pasted it from the HoC website verbatim. But again bravo for your childish innuendo it wins we over. But again just for clarity I'm not a cop i was and despite the jibes I'm not ashamed or embarrassed im proud of what I did. Shame others cant say the same about their contribution to society. Read the menu, at the top it says MEMBERS dining room. Already been addressed and found to be irrelevant. Its rated 4.6 out of 5 with Google reviews.
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Post by daisydog on Oct 24, 2020 16:41:11 GMT
Read the menu, at the top it says MEMBERS dining room. Already been addressed and found to be irrelevant. Its rated 4.6 out of 5 with Google reviews. No it hasn't been addressed, the members dining room is for MPs , I would have thought that was obvious. You really think they are sharing their dining room with 1400 people. There are a number of dining areas and they do not have the same subsidy. Here is the menu for non MPs at the Houses Of Parliament. Same menu, twice the price. Strangers’ Dining Room Starters Soup of the day £5.10 Rosemary salt baked squash panna cotta with almond feta, beer and onion ketchup and parsnip crisps (Ve) (GF) £7.33 Balsamic and thyme honey beetroot tartar with golden cross goats’ cheese mousse, Granny Smith apple and micro celery (V) (GF) £7.33 Pressed duck leg and caper terrine with celeriac and mustard rémoulade and sour dough toast* £8.13 Pan seared mackerel with heritage tomato ceviche, elderflower gel, horseradish and charred cucumber (GF) £8.13 Traditional prawn cocktail with gem lettuce and brown bread and butter £6.80 Mains Chargrilled ribeye steak with hand cut chips, tomato, mushroom and Béarnaise sauce (GF) £17.17 Pan fried salmon with courgette provençale, buttered cocotte potatoes, black olive crumb and chive cream sauce (GF) £13.56 Traditional beer battered cod with hand cut chips, mushy peas and tartar sauce £13.56 Mini sirloin of beef with mini steak and kidney pudding, roasted baby carrots, savoy cabbage and potato terrine* £18.98 Slow cooked pork belly with pancetta and root vegetable spelt, crisp kale and salt baked swede* £14.08 Leek and wild mushroom bread and butter pudding with chargrilled spring onions, roast celeriac puree and rosemary poached turnip (V) £13.02 Roasted cauliflower and tarragon steaklet with samphire and hazelnut pesto, pickled kohlrabi and aubergine baba ganoush (Ve) (GF) £13.02 Sides Vegetables or potatoes of the day £2.81 Extra sauce £1.50 Menu Information Wherever possible we use British produce. Some of our menu items contain allergens, and we recognise the danger to those with severe allergies and intolerances. Our food handlers receive regular allergen training. Strict hygiene procedures are followed in our kitchens to ensure cross contamination does not occur but we cannot guarantee our dishes to be trace free. * This dish can be made gluten free. Your server will be happy to advise. (GF) Gluten Free (V) Vegetarian (Ve) Vegan SDR w/c 9-09-19 Desserts Gooseberry and hazelnut cake Moist hazelnut sponge, gooseberries and crème fraîche (V) £5.32 Fig, cream cheese and orange mess Candied figs, whipped cheesecake, crisp meringue and fresh orange (GF) £5.32 Crème caramel with raspberry compote Classic crème caramel with seasonal raspberries (GF) £5.32 Homemade Ice Creams and Sorbets (V) £5.10 Selection of British Cheeses £7.55
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Post by franklin on Oct 24, 2020 16:55:22 GMT
Already been addressed and found to be irrelevant. Its rated 4.6 out of 5 with Google reviews. No it hasn't been addressed, the members dining room is for MPs , I would have thought that was obvious. You really think they are sharing their dining room with 1400 people. There are a number of dining areas and they do not have the same subsidy. Here is the menu for non MPs at the Houses Of Parliament. Same menu, twice the price. Strangers’ Dining Room Starters Soup of the day £5.10 Rosemary salt baked squash panna cotta with almond feta, beer and onion ketchup and parsnip crisps (Ve) (GF) £7.33 Balsamic and thyme honey beetroot tartar with golden cross goats’ cheese mousse, Granny Smith apple and micro celery (V) (GF) £7.33 Pressed duck leg and caper terrine with celeriac and mustard rémoulade and sour dough toast* £8.13 Pan seared mackerel with heritage tomato ceviche, elderflower gel, horseradish and charred cucumber (GF) £8.13 Traditional prawn cocktail with gem lettuce and brown bread and butter £6.80 Mains Chargrilled ribeye steak with hand cut chips, tomato, mushroom and Béarnaise sauce (GF) £17.17 Pan fried salmon with courgette provençale, buttered cocotte potatoes, black olive crumb and chive cream sauce (GF) £13.56 Traditional beer battered cod with hand cut chips, mushy peas and tartar sauce £13.56 Mini sirloin of beef with mini steak and kidney pudding, roasted baby carrots, savoy cabbage and potato terrine* £18.98 Slow cooked pork belly with pancetta and root vegetable spelt, crisp kale and salt baked swede* £14.08 Leek and wild mushroom bread and butter pudding with chargrilled spring onions, roast celeriac puree and rosemary poached turnip (V) £13.02 Roasted cauliflower and tarragon steaklet with samphire and hazelnut pesto, pickled kohlrabi and aubergine baba ganoush (Ve) (GF) £13.02 Sides Vegetables or potatoes of the day £2.81 Extra sauce £1.50 Menu Information Wherever possible we use British produce. Some of our menu items contain allergens, and we recognise the danger to those with severe allergies and intolerances. Our food handlers receive regular allergen training. Strict hygiene procedures are followed in our kitchens to ensure cross contamination does not occur but we cannot guarantee our dishes to be trace free. * This dish can be made gluten free. Your server will be happy to advise. (GF) Gluten Free (V) Vegetarian (Ve) Vegan SDR w/c 9-09-19 Desserts Gooseberry and hazelnut cake Moist hazelnut sponge, gooseberries and crème fraîche (V) £5.32 Fig, cream cheese and orange mess Candied figs, whipped cheesecake, crisp meringue and fresh orange (GF) £5.32 Crème caramel with raspberry compote Classic crème caramel with seasonal raspberries (GF) £5.32 Homemade Ice Creams and Sorbets (V) £5.10 Selection of British Cheeses £7.55 🥱
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 24, 2020 17:18:36 GMT
It’s a sorry state of affairs when a debate even has to be held on whether the state should help to feed starving children, never mind that the people elected to represent their constituents and those children then vote against it. I thought that last week was an all time low when Burnham was being accused of ‘playing politics’ for standing up for his people and trying to ensure that people wouldn’t fall into financial hardship due to government imposed measures. Somehow they managed to trump it this week. All of this is the backdrop of Covid, people having not seen family and friends all year, job losses, forced business closures, furlough, etc. At least it will give the government a few more million quid to spunk up the wall or give to their donors. I absolutely fucking despair at the actions of this government. The actions of Rashford, local businesses, charities and volunteers highlight what a truly vindictive and heartless bunch they really are.And probably cynically calculating too. Something along the lines of "we have an 80 seat majority, we've got four years until the next election, we're perfectly safe to do all this stuff for sometime, before we need to start offering tax bribes and stop being the "nasty party" again to sweep up the gullible once more as we approach the next election". You just have to hope people remember this stuff, but they probably won't. Exactly this! Remember Dominic Cummings? Because nobody else seems to
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Post by Timmypotter on Oct 24, 2020 17:21:54 GMT
This issue seems to have been so sensationalised and contorted through the prism of social media. Are 1 in 3 kids really going hungry in school holidays? Are there really 'starving' kids who haven't already been picked up by social services or who aren't on their radar. Maybe I'm completely out of touch but it doesn't seem like either could be true in the UK to any great extent.
My mum used to teach in a primary school with a lot of kids from Knutton and Silverdale. There weren't really any kids who went hungry. The very very small number who were hungry (I can think of 2 cases that she mentioned) had smack heads for parents and were expected to rob their tea from Tesco. My mum used to keep food in her drawer for those kids on the days they'd had to leg it with empty pockets. They would eventually be picked up by social services and put into foster families.
Is there any word on how this proposal would work? Is it a voucher that is given to the parents, or are food packages given to families with vegetables, meat, dried pasta, tinned foods etc in them? I just don't really see how any scheme would actually help those kids who really need it. If your parents aren't feeding you properly then it needs to be referred to social services - it's not something that can be fixed with a voucher.
The level of benefits available to families is surely what we should really be talking about. If they're not sufficient in the current environment then it needs to be looked at. FSM isn't really the issue.
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Post by vokeswagen on Oct 24, 2020 17:47:49 GMT
No it hasn't been addressed, the members dining room is for MPs , I would have thought that was obvious. You really think they are sharing their dining room with 1400 people. There are a number of dining areas and they do not have the same subsidy. Here is the menu for non MPs at the Houses Of Parliament. Same menu, twice the price. Strangers’ Dining Room Starters Soup of the day £5.10 Rosemary salt baked squash panna cotta with almond feta, beer and onion ketchup and parsnip crisps (Ve) (GF) £7.33 Balsamic and thyme honey beetroot tartar with golden cross goats’ cheese mousse, Granny Smith apple and micro celery (V) (GF) £7.33 Pressed duck leg and caper terrine with celeriac and mustard rémoulade and sour dough toast* £8.13 Pan seared mackerel with heritage tomato ceviche, elderflower gel, horseradish and charred cucumber (GF) £8.13 Traditional prawn cocktail with gem lettuce and brown bread and butter £6.80 Mains Chargrilled ribeye steak with hand cut chips, tomato, mushroom and Béarnaise sauce (GF) £17.17 Pan fried salmon with courgette provençale, buttered cocotte potatoes, black olive crumb and chive cream sauce (GF) £13.56 Traditional beer battered cod with hand cut chips, mushy peas and tartar sauce £13.56 Mini sirloin of beef with mini steak and kidney pudding, roasted baby carrots, savoy cabbage and potato terrine* £18.98 Slow cooked pork belly with pancetta and root vegetable spelt, crisp kale and salt baked swede* £14.08 Leek and wild mushroom bread and butter pudding with chargrilled spring onions, roast celeriac puree and rosemary poached turnip (V) £13.02 Roasted cauliflower and tarragon steaklet with samphire and hazelnut pesto, pickled kohlrabi and aubergine baba ganoush (Ve) (GF) £13.02 Sides Vegetables or potatoes of the day £2.81 Extra sauce £1.50 Menu Information Wherever possible we use British produce. Some of our menu items contain allergens, and we recognise the danger to those with severe allergies and intolerances. Our food handlers receive regular allergen training. Strict hygiene procedures are followed in our kitchens to ensure cross contamination does not occur but we cannot guarantee our dishes to be trace free. * This dish can be made gluten free. Your server will be happy to advise. (GF) Gluten Free (V) Vegetarian (Ve) Vegan SDR w/c 9-09-19 Desserts Gooseberry and hazelnut cake Moist hazelnut sponge, gooseberries and crème fraîche (V) £5.32 Fig, cream cheese and orange mess Candied figs, whipped cheesecake, crisp meringue and fresh orange (GF) £5.32 Crème caramel with raspberry compote Classic crème caramel with seasonal raspberries (GF) £5.32 Homemade Ice Creams and Sorbets (V) £5.10 Selection of British Cheeses £7.55 🥱 Translation: proved wrong again, can’t be arsed to engage further
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Post by franklin on Oct 24, 2020 18:15:13 GMT
How to book a table at the Members Dining room. www.parliament.uk/dining/One review from hundreds.... Had a wonderful day - loved the Pugin room for pre lunch drinks and the Members Dining Room was fabulous. Food and service were excellent, resulting in a 10/10 experience.
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Post by Orbs on Oct 24, 2020 18:54:41 GMT
This issue seems to have been so sensationalised and contorted through the prism of social media. Are 1 in 3 kids really going hungry in school holidays? Are there really 'starving' kids who haven't already been picked up by social services or who aren't on their radar. Maybe I'm completely out of touch but it doesn't seem like either could be true in the UK to any great extent. My mum used to teach in a primary school with a lot of kids from Knutton and Silverdale. There weren't really any kids who went hungry. The very very small number who were hungry (I can think of 2 cases that she mentioned) had smack heads for parents and were expected to rob their tea from Tesco. My mum used to keep food in her drawer for those kids on the days they'd had to leg it with empty pockets. They would eventually be picked up by social services and put into foster families. Is there any word on how this proposal would work? Is it a voucher that is given to the parents, or are food packages given to families with vegetables, meat, dried pasta, tinned foods etc in them? I just don't really see how any scheme would actually help those kids who really need it. If your parents aren't feeding you properly then it needs to be referred to social services - it's not something that can be fixed with a voucher. The level of benefits available to families is surely what we should really be talking about. If they're not sufficient in the current environment then it needs to be looked at. FSM isn't really the issue. In my experience it’s the 1,000s of kids and families who aren’t even on the radar of social care that are either on FSM or are just hovering around the need for social care to intervene. A family only needs to qualify for a day to qualify for extra FSM funding for the full 6/7 years of primary school. The social care families are the thin end of a very thick wedge. The food vouchers are exchanged at shops for food and can’t be used to buy alcohol, fags or sky sports.
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Post by essexstokey on Oct 24, 2020 19:05:54 GMT
Tory MP Says She Hopes Businesses Who Feed Hungry Kids Won't Seek Government Support link
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Post by vokeswagen on Oct 24, 2020 19:15:06 GMT
No argument over uber or anyone else who doesn't pay the correct tax but forgive me but are you saying fraudulent abuse of furlough to the tune of 2billion plus did not happen and that it could not have helped to feed children. I really dont know what point you are trying to make. I've never said the furlough money couldnt be used for other stimulus. Have I? You brought up the furlough for whatever reason in response to my article regarding the high level off shore tax evasion with the blessing of HMRC. Its seems youd have been better off agreeing wholeheartedly with my post and saying or we could have used the abused furlough money, or the 12 billion given to serco, or in fact just got the bank of England to QE a little bit more. Etc. For whatever reason, we are told there is no money to feed the kids of the least well off in this country in this crisis. Mate he’s not making a point, it’s franklin. He’s just talking gibberish as per
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 24, 2020 19:24:40 GMT
I really dont know what point you are trying to make. I've never said the furlough money couldnt be used for other stimulus. Have I? You brought up the furlough for whatever reason in response to my article regarding the high level off shore tax evasion with the blessing of HMRC. Its seems youd have been better off agreeing wholeheartedly with my post and saying or we could have used the abused furlough money, or the 12 billion given to serco, or in fact just got the bank of England to QE a little bit more. Etc. For whatever reason, we are told there is no money to feed the kids of the least well off in this country in this crisis. Mate he’s not making a point, it’s franklin. He’s just talking gibberish as per What’s your problem? Is it because nobody engages with you that you feel you have to but in on other conversations?
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Post by crapslinger on Oct 24, 2020 20:50:12 GMT
Mate he’s not making a point, it’s franklin. He’s just talking gibberish as per What’s your problem? Is it because nobody engages with you that you feel you have to but in on other conversations? Must be infuriating when the only people who do engage with you all live in your own mind
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 24, 2020 20:51:15 GMT
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Post by Orbs on Oct 24, 2020 20:56:41 GMT
The FSM vouchers are spent in shops and only on food. That’s literally how they work now.
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