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Post by partickpotter on Oct 21, 2020 7:02:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 7:30:20 GMT
Me too...
Has anything happened to Andrew?
Its like the establishment politicians, clergy monarchy and even celebs were/are above the law. Which can't be true in this 'great' country
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 12:31:23 GMT
If you read the figures for reported abuse in the Church of England it's quite scary. Public opinion will have you believe that this kind of thing is confined to the Catholic church which is far from the truth, cases have more than doubled in the C of E with more than 4000 clergy under report. I knew the brother of a singer from the 70s and he worked as a road manager for several artists and said the Savile thing was tip of the iceberg in the music world, certain musicians put him to shame, one in particular. Obviously you have no idea how much is true but you do wonder how much is/was swept under the carpet, not reported etc.
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Post by zerps on Oct 21, 2020 12:34:03 GMT
It’s almost as if all religion is a scam to empower those that preach it
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Post by noustie on Oct 21, 2020 12:35:57 GMT
For me on the Muslim Paedophile topic there was an uncomfortable focus on the 'Muslim' bit rather than the kid fucking bit. It never really made any sense to me why they would be being protected for race reasons as invariably the fall out when the public cottoned on would be much worse than what they were protecting against in the first place so was completely nonsensical. That then opens up an uncomfortable question - are paedophiles being protected? Now that seems a completely batshit mental thing to consider but Epstein had enough sh!t on him that he managed to commit suicide in a prison that was allegedly impossible to commit suicide in except neither the guards nor cameras were working at the time. You have the Church here, the BBC, Royal family circling the wagons, football training where it was rife and took years to uncover - Crewe seemed an open secret almost! Lord Steele basically said 'ooops sorry' for covering up historical abuse within the party and retired without much issue or fanfare. The Carl Beech case on the other hand was played out in great depth with his sentence read day after day on the news as almost a warning to others. How did the Police manage to fuck it up so badly to the point they looked absolutely incompetent? If they were going after big wigs you'd have thought they would have known to have all their ducks in a row. You'd have thought they would have learnt too after managing to fuck up the Jersey case as well again allegedly involving high profile figures. Interestingly the dog involved in that had a 100% record until the case before (McCann's) and then suddenly started barking at coconut shells or some other bollocks. You've also got best estimates that 1600 kids go long term missing a year from care - that's a mad figure! Something I wasn't aware of until fairly recently was the case of McRae. Managed to drink drive himself into a tree despite having 0% alcohol in his bloodstream whilst shooting himself in the head first and then chucking the gun out the window a substantial distance from where the car crashed whilst the car was packed for a weekend away. www.anorak.co.uk/411197/reviews/westminster-paedophiles-the-death-of-willie%E2%80%82mcrae-and-the-buckingham-palace-footman.htmlThere's a couple of articles about it on Google plus there's a book available in pdf. It seems that 30 years down the line it's likely he was murdered but it was either because he uncovered dumping nuclear waste in Scotland or high level child fucking.
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Oct 21, 2020 12:37:49 GMT
Anyway, better late than never a chance to comment on yet another terrible religious institution scandal. *Cough*.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 12:59:42 GMT
For me on the Muslim Paedophile topic there was an uncomfortable focus on the 'Muslim' bit rather than the kid fucking bit. It never really made any sense to me why they would be being protected for race reasons as invariably the fall out when the public cottoned on would be much worse than what they were protecting against in the first place so was completely nonsensical. That then opens up an uncomfortable question - are paedophiles being protected? Now that seems a completely batshit mental thing to consider but Epstein had enough sh!t on him that he managed to commit suicide in a prison that was allegedly impossible to commit suicide in except neither the guards nor cameras were working at the time. You have the Church here, the BBC, Royal family circling the wagons, football training where it was rife and took years to uncover - Crewe seemed an open secret almost! Lord Steele basically said 'ooops sorry' for covering up historical abuse within the party and retired without much issue or fanfare. The Carl Beech case on the other hand was played out in great depth with his sentence read day after day on the news as almost a warning to others. How did the Police manage to fuck it up so badly to the point they looked absolutely incompetent? If they were going after big wigs you'd have thought they would have known to have all their ducks in a row. You'd have thought they would have learnt too after managing to fuck up the Jersey case as well again allegedly involving high profile figures. Interestingly the dog involved in that had a 100% record until the case before (McCann's) and then suddenly started barking at coconut shells or some other bollocks. You've also got best estimates that 1600 kids go long term missing a year from care - that's a mad figure! Something I wasn't aware of until fairly recently was the case of McRae. Managed to drink drive himself into a tree despite having 0% alcohol in his bloodstream whilst shooting himself in the head first and then chucking the gun out the window a substantial distance from where the car crashed whilst the car was packed for a weekend away. www.anorak.co.uk/411197/reviews/westminster-paedophiles-the-death-of-willie%E2%80%82mcrae-and-the-buckingham-palace-footman.htmlThere's a couple of articles about it on Google plus there's a book available in pdf. It seems that 30 years down the line it's likely he was murdered but it was either because he uncovered dumping nuclear waste in Scotland or high level child fucking. The dogs in the McCann case both picked out the cadaver scent on Kate McCann's trousers, Madeleine's cat toy and in the apartment. Cadaver dogs in Portugal can only be used for help in cases and not as hard evidence, one o f the countries that doesn't recognise their findings in court.
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Post by noustie on Oct 21, 2020 13:09:22 GMT
For me on the Muslim Paedophile topic there was an uncomfortable focus on the 'Muslim' bit rather than the kid fucking bit. It never really made any sense to me why they would be being protected for race reasons as invariably the fall out when the public cottoned on would be much worse than what they were protecting against in the first place so was completely nonsensical. That then opens up an uncomfortable question - are paedophiles being protected? Now that seems a completely batshit mental thing to consider but Epstein had enough sh!t on him that he managed to commit suicide in a prison that was allegedly impossible to commit suicide in except neither the guards nor cameras were working at the time. You have the Church here, the BBC, Royal family circling the wagons, football training where it was rife and took years to uncover - Crewe seemed an open secret almost! Lord Steele basically said 'ooops sorry' for covering up historical abuse within the party and retired without much issue or fanfare. The Carl Beech case on the other hand was played out in great depth with his sentence read day after day on the news as almost a warning to others. How did the Police manage to fuck it up so badly to the point they looked absolutely incompetent? If they were going after big wigs you'd have thought they would have known to have all their ducks in a row. You'd have thought they would have learnt too after managing to fuck up the Jersey case as well again allegedly involving high profile figures. Interestingly the dog involved in that had a 100% record until the case before (McCann's) and then suddenly started barking at coconut shells or some other bollocks. You've also got best estimates that 1600 kids go long term missing a year from care - that's a mad figure! Something I wasn't aware of until fairly recently was the case of McRae. Managed to drink drive himself into a tree despite having 0% alcohol in his bloodstream whilst shooting himself in the head first and then chucking the gun out the window a substantial distance from where the car crashed whilst the car was packed for a weekend away. www.anorak.co.uk/411197/reviews/westminster-paedophiles-the-death-of-willie%E2%80%82mcrae-and-the-buckingham-palace-footman.htmlThere's a couple of articles about it on Google plus there's a book available in pdf. It seems that 30 years down the line it's likely he was murdered but it was either because he uncovered dumping nuclear waste in Scotland or high level child fucking. The dogs in the McCann case both picked out the cadaver scent on Kate McCann's trousers, Madeleine's cat toy and in the apartment. Cadaver dogs in Portugal can only be used for help in cases and not as hard evidence, one o f the countries that doesn't recognise their findings in court. Story from Jersey that it was one of the dogs used on McCann's and there's a video from the handler of it barking: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-17337414The bones it found were later decided to be baby teeth left lying around the place and coconut shells. The dog handler went rouge and has stuff on YouTube that its a stitch up.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2020 13:27:03 GMT
The dogs in the McCann case both picked out the cadaver scent on Kate McCann's trousers, Madeleine's cat toy and in the apartment. Cadaver dogs in Portugal can only be used for help in cases and not as hard evidence, one o f the countries that doesn't recognise their findings in court. Story from Jersey that it was one of the dogs used on McCann's and there's a video from the handler of it barking: www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-jersey-17337414The bones it found were later decided to be baby teeth left lying around the place and coconut shells. The dog handler went rouge and has stuff on YouTube that its a stitch up. Ah ok not sure if the McCann clothing footage is still on line but an interesting watch. There was a coach at Rangers, Gordon Neely who was never reported despite the club claiming they did to a player he abused. He was just sacked and nothing else said
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Post by partickpotter on Oct 21, 2020 18:46:47 GMT
Anyway, better late than never a chance to comment on yet another terrible religious institution scandal. *Cough*. Apologies. Maybe admin could do a merge.
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