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Post by iglugluk on Oct 21, 2020 10:25:42 GMT
Arsene wenger hit the nail on the head when he says it's the other European clubs that are concerned that they can't keep up with the power of the Premier league, so they want a European super league so they have a better split of the big bucks. Fuck off Europe, both in football and. In brexit. fucking hate them. Rubbish. This is being led by American owned clubs ( and possibly Saudi's too ) in The Premier League and is following a well trodden USA model. Brexit is only going to force us to rely on US trade deals and they will fleece us exactly as they did after WW2. At least UK had input into the EU. Take off your blinkers.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 21, 2020 10:27:16 GMT
I think that Liverpool and Man Utd also need to be careful there grab for power and money is becoming to obvious They were willing to take the other four or five with them last time but when they were told to piss off they have decided This time to create a dog eat dog situation And are trying to divide and conquer It will only take the other 18 to unite and they can find themselves on a limb Man U and Liverpool’s plan was for an 18 team Premier League. I’m all for it. Just boot the pair of them out so they can play each other every week in their closed shop circus. Job done. Let’s see how the pair of them get on then when their scrabbling around for friendlies and exhibition matches to fill their calendar. Within the process of booting them out they should be de authorised by all FAs with no way back for players, officials ,owners and clubs. A hard stance is needed and the power needs to be taken away from the selfish and the greedy. This is a sport and sport needs genuine and interesting competition to thrive, not monopolies! BM Spot on UEFA need to come out and state any club player or officials involved in a non sanctioned competition can no longer partake in any UEFA authorised competitions This will kill the idea stone dead Thank god we can rely on UEFA to uphold the integrity of football in the face of financial inducements
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Post by musik on Oct 21, 2020 10:53:09 GMT
Moving their business abroad ...
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Post by chad on Oct 21, 2020 15:19:01 GMT
I’ve said for years now,let them all go and let rest get on with proper football👍 They're not going as such are they? They would still play Domestic League and The Champions League would become this, a closed shop open just to greedy bastards. The rest of Football should tell them to fuck off if they sign up though The FA need to grow a pair. Tell them if that’s what they want they can go. But they’re not playing domestic football as well. No FA cup and when it all goes tits up they can come back in the NW counties league Greedy Bastards
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 21, 2020 15:29:44 GMT
Arsene wenger hit the nail on the head when he says it's the other European clubs that are concerned that they can't keep up with the power of the Premier league, so they want a European super league so they have a better split of the big bucks. Fuck off Europe, both in football and. In brexit. fucking hate them. Oh the irony of an Englishman quoting a Frenchman to show your bigotry towards Europe. Reminds me of Nigel Farage with his German wife, and tax domiciled in France
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Post by lordb on Oct 21, 2020 16:38:09 GMT
Man U and Liverpool’s plan was for an 18 team Premier League. I’m all for it. Just boot the pair of them out so they can play each other every week in their closed shop circus. Job done. Let’s see how the pair of them get on then when their scrabbling around for friendlies and exhibition matches to fill their calendar. Within the process of booting them out they should be de authorised by all FAs with no way back for players, officials ,owners and clubs. A hard stance is needed and the power needs to be taken away from the selfish and the greedy. This is a sport and sport needs genuine and interesting competition to thrive, not monopolies! BM Spot on UEFA need to come out and state any club player or officials involved in a non sanctioned competition can no longer partake in any UEFA authorised competitions This will kill the idea stone dead Thank god we can rely on UEFA to uphold the integrity of football in the face of financial inducements It could do Or it could kill UEFA stone dead As well as all the other issues around this it's very much a FIFA v UEFA thang
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Post by nott1 on Oct 21, 2020 17:52:20 GMT
What I think is..The Shit United, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea etc. feck 'em all off to this new league, kick 'em out of English footie for ever, let them get on with it, never let them back in the country.....ever, and promote the same number of clubs up from the championship into the Premier League. Never show any of the traitors matches on our tv and watch 'em all go bankrupt. Good feckin' riddance!
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Post by BristolMick on Oct 21, 2020 18:15:18 GMT
Agree with every word of that mate except there’s no one club called ‘United’ and we should avoid pampering to the egos of the arrogant fuckers from Salford and the glory hunting feckless cunts who support them, who bang on like there is only one club with that name.
BM
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Post by BristolMick on Oct 21, 2020 18:17:51 GMT
What I think is....United Arsenal Liverpool Chelsea etc. feck 'em all off to this new league, kick 'em out of English footie for ever, let them get on with it, never let them back in the country.....ever, and promote the same number of clubs up from the championship into the Premier League. Never show any of the traitors matches on our tv and watch 'em all go bankrupt. Good feckin' riddance! Post above is in reply, forgot to press quote😕
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Post by nott1 on Oct 21, 2020 19:35:43 GMT
Agree with every word of that mate except there’s no one club called ‘United’ and we should avoid pampering to the egos of the arrogant fuckers from Salford and the glory hunting feckless cunts who support them, who bang on like there is only one club with that name. BM Suitably amended!
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 18, 2021 12:23:35 GMT
Five English clubs are among 11 European teams who have signed up to a breakaway Super League in an extraordinary development on the eve of Uefa’s announcement of a new Champions League format.
Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur have signed up to the breakaway plan with only Manchester City among the Big Six yet to do so, sources with knowledge of the development have told The Times.
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Post by mjg13x on Apr 18, 2021 12:31:46 GMT
Shocking that Citeh haven't jumped on it right away.
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Post by Olgrligm on Apr 18, 2021 12:33:17 GMT
Would anybody watch it? I've no interest in the Premier League, even less interest in the Champions' League and would actively avoid seeing anything to do with this.
The media in the UK should be brave and refuse to report on it if it happens.
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Post by dutchstokie on Apr 18, 2021 12:33:50 GMT
Five English clubs are among 11 European teams who have signed up to a breakaway Super League in an extraordinary development on the eve of Uefa’s announcement of a new Champions League format. Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur have signed up to the breakaway plan with only Manchester City among the Big Six yet to do so, sources with knowledge of the development have told The Times. Why haven’t we signed up? 😁
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Apr 18, 2021 12:54:55 GMT
Five English clubs are among 11 European teams who have signed up to a breakaway Super League in an extraordinary development on the eve of Uefa’s announcement of a new Champions League format. Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur have signed up to the breakaway plan with only Manchester City among the Big Six yet to do so, sources with knowledge of the development have told The Times. Why haven’t we signed up? 😁 We are too big to compete with that lot
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 18, 2021 13:28:21 GMT
Five English clubs are among 11 European teams who have signed up to a breakaway Super League in an extraordinary development on the eve of Uefa’s announcement of a new Champions League format. Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur have signed up to the breakaway plan with only Manchester City among the Big Six yet to do so, sources with knowledge of the development have told The Times. I get why they want it but you read the actual sporting proposal it’s so bad.
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 18, 2021 13:43:55 GMT
Would anybody watch it? I've no interest in the Premier League, even less interest in the Champions' League and would actively avoid seeing anything to do with this. The media in the UK should be brave and refuse to report on it if it happens. Yes they would. A league that would be a world league would go down well in China, India and the US. The clubs are fighting it out on a global stage and won't give a fuck if local supporters or supporters of other teams don't like it. The cash they'll be able to cream off is going to be off the scale. And the domestic games they're bothered about - ie, against each other - will still take place.
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Post by stokie1947 on Apr 18, 2021 13:47:20 GMT
i thought we left the EU
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 18, 2021 13:55:24 GMT
Would anybody watch it? I've no interest in the Premier League, even less interest in the Champions' League and would actively avoid seeing anything to do with this. The media in the UK should be brave and refuse to report on it if it happens. Yes they would. A league that would be a world league would go down well in China, India and the US. The clubs are fighting it out on a global stage and won't give a fuck if local supporters or supporters of other teams don't like it. The cash they'll be able to cream off is going to be off the scale. And the domestic games they're bothered about - ie, against each other - will still take place. It will be huge. Fans of these teams will be split but will inevitably follow it once it gets going. Are you telling me that if it was Stoke you would turn your back on games v Barcelona and Real Madrid? Maybe a handful would. There will be some resistance from traditional fans, but traditional, local fans are in the minority for these clubs and are now largely irrelevant. It's just another nail in the coffin for community based football activity. The media will follow the level of interest of course, so maybe a bit of resistance from purists, but that will only fill more columns anyway. It's interesting Man City are not yet on board maybe this is because of their community oriented approach and the fact that their global brand is not yet fully developed? Maybe? What Man City think about domestic football was on show yesterday with 8 changes for an FA Cup Semi-Final!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 18, 2021 13:55:27 GMT
Let them go if that’s what they want but if they want to ever return let them start right at the bottom like AFC Wimbledon did. It could be the making of English football with a far more even championship. It’ll be interesting what the fans think. No more Merseyside derbies.
This is what happens when the owners are foreign absolutely no loyalty to the British game. Just in it for the big ego trip and to make the big buck.
Sad in some ways but exciting in others.
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 18, 2021 13:57:36 GMT
Let them go if that’s what they want but if they want to ever return let them start right at the bottom like AFC Wimbledon did. It could be the making of English football with a far more even championship. It’ll be interesting what the fans think. No more Merseyside derbies. This is what happens when the owners are foreign absolutely no loyalty to the British game. Just in it for the big ego trip and to make the big buck. Sad in some ways but exciting in others. It will be interesting to see how the Premiership responds, but maybe there is a plan there in place?
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 18, 2021 13:59:54 GMT
Five English clubs are among 11 European teams who have signed up to a breakaway Super League in an extraordinary development on the eve of Uefa’s announcement of a new Champions League format. Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea and Tottenham Hotspur have signed up to the breakaway plan with only Manchester City among the Big Six yet to do so, sources with knowledge of the development have told The Times. This column is no longer available, any other reports?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Apr 18, 2021 14:03:49 GMT
Let them go if that’s what they want but if they want to ever return let them start right at the bottom like AFC Wimbledon did. It could be the making of English football with a far more even championship. It’ll be interesting what the fans think. No more Merseyside derbies. This is what happens when the owners are foreign absolutely no loyalty to the British game. Just in it for the big ego trip and to make the big buck. Sad in some ways but exciting in others. It will be interesting to see how the Premiership responds, but maybe there is a plan there in place? Not sure the Scottish league will be affected mate😉
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 18, 2021 14:17:45 GMT
It will be interesting to see how the Premiership responds, but maybe there is a plan there in place? Not sure the Scottish league will be affected mate😉 haha!.....cant keep up with these titles...it's still League Division One in my head. Thanks for the correction!
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Post by werrington on Apr 18, 2021 14:19:37 GMT
Anyone who thinks English clubs doing well in Europe is good for the English game have now got what they were warned would happen .....fucking idiots
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 18, 2021 14:20:39 GMT
Anyone who thinks English clubs doing well in Europe is good for the English game have now got what they were warned would happen .....fucking idiots very true.....they are not really English clubs let's face it.
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Post by thehoof on Apr 18, 2021 14:28:09 GMT
Given that I’m not a fan of any of the teams likely to be involved, it makes absolutely no difference to me. I think Cobham said that if they go, and they ever want to return, then they start at the bottom and have to work their way back. Other than that, does anyone really care on the Oatcake?
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Post by J-Roar on Apr 18, 2021 14:29:49 GMT
Anyone who thinks English clubs doing well in Europe is good for the English game have now got what they were warned would happen .....fucking idiots very true.....they are not really English clubs let's face it. Agree. The PL isn't really an English league. The top is a world league that happens to be played in England.
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Post by werrington on Apr 18, 2021 14:33:43 GMT
Given that I’m not a fan of any of the teams likely to be involved, it makes absolutely no difference to me. I think Cobham said that if they go, and they ever want to return, then they start at the bottom and have to work their way back. Other than that, does anyone really care on the Oatcake? I care .....the repercussions for Stoke City and English football are HUGE
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Post by thehoof on Apr 18, 2021 14:36:49 GMT
Enlighten me please- and I don’t mean that in a derogatory manner- what happens if National Associations ( who lose from this) stipulate any player involved is ineligible for national selection?
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