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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 18, 2020 13:02:23 GMT
I still refuse to believe that Henderson "goal" was offside too. I've seen it about 10 times now and not once does it look to be offside to me.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 18, 2020 13:15:08 GMT
I like klopp, but nothing gives me greater pleasure than watching him and Pep have melt downs when the pressure gets to them. Decisions go against them so they complain to the prem about VAR. Others have had for over a year now. Get over yourselves Liverpool. You should have had the corrupt refs and descsions we had for 10 years! He’s not wrong though is he? What’s it actually for if it can’t get that right yesterday? Was VAR at fault or the numpties operating it? The England Denmark game proved that we should have VAR for me. I still think if VAR had been in when we were in the prem we'd still be there as someone did prove on here a while ago. Hate the thought of corrupt bias refs running games like we had for years and still have. We just have to fuck them off from viewing VAR now and get some good people doing it.
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Post by apb1 on Oct 18, 2020 13:18:07 GMT
He must get a retrospective ban. Has to be an incident not seen by ref. This was not seen by ref or VAR...
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Post by madnellie on Oct 18, 2020 13:59:24 GMT
I think today's was worse, but that might just be my memory. Bardsley got a yellow I think? I didn't think he got booked as it was out of play at the time? Yes! I think you might be right. I'll have to see if I can find a video later.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 18, 2020 14:07:28 GMT
VAR is always 100% correct. The decisions are taken by people.
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 18, 2020 14:33:31 GMT
VAR is always 100% correct. The decisions are taken by people. Unlike the goal line tech
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Post by superpej on Oct 18, 2020 15:52:42 GMT
VAR in principle is a good idea because it gives the ref more info on which to make a decision. That is why it is called Video Assistant Referee - Assistant is the key word. There should be only one person making the decision and that is the guy on the pitch. This is where it all goes wrong because some guys in a box with a vid miles away are taking the decision out of the refs hands and saying "You're wrong mate he was off".
They should advise the ref - in confidence - that in their opinion he has got something wrong and change his decision but I would say at the end opf the day he is policing the game in the way he thinks best - ideally from a spectator point of view. For example letting the game flow - not getting the cards out allowing for conditions on the pitch etc.
Trying to create "fairness" by minutely adhering to the rules through VAR is killing the game for spectators with delays, decisions arriving from afar, finger tip off sides etc. There is the "spirit of the game" to consider as well as managing the rules.
Having said this it would mean refs would have to step up and publicly explain their decisions which so far they have been reluctant to do. Personally I think if there would or might possibly less criticism of them being homers or having bid team bias. If they don't own their decisions and now increasingly are protected by VAR then I think trust and refs and the system in general will simply go down further.
On Pickford - a clear red but the ref bottled it because it was "early in the game" and would create "too much of a disadvantage" the intent was clear and it was violent. The fact that he went the other way with a later decision shows inconsistency.
Also on Pickford and back to matters Stoke City - I have never forgiven Southgate for not picking Jack for the dead rubber world cup game against Belgium when he gave various other squad fillers another cap and a world cup appearance. Overall I suspect jack is a much more grounded bloke than Pickford despite all his troubles and disappointments
Anyway good luck to jack in the future.
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 18, 2020 16:56:43 GMT
Just scrap it, but that said Lpool were very fortunate with VAR decisions last season in my opinion. I can only remember one that went against them against Villa thst could be debated.
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Post by bloodtypered on Oct 18, 2020 17:26:00 GMT
whoever judged that to be offside should be held accountable...….no one can see it as an offside except them, they need sacking ...and the ref for that injury. ridiculous officiating ......get rid of var if its not doing the job, or the refs cant be bothered to look at it doesn't fill you with hope for when we get back
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Post by lordb on Oct 18, 2020 17:32:43 GMT
I still refuse to believe that Henderson "goal" was offside too. I've seen it about 10 times now and not once does it look to be offside to me. Simply don't understand how that is offside, he's level
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 18, 2020 17:33:26 GMT
Unfortunate
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 18, 2020 17:35:55 GMT
I hope Pickford doesn’t live locally because I’d expect he’ll be getting some shit off the Liverpudlians
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 18, 2020 17:36:38 GMT
Terrible news for him. I can’t remember him missing a game for Liverpool, big hole to fill
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Post by Miles Offside on Oct 18, 2020 17:52:02 GMT
I still refuse to believe that Henderson "goal" was offside too. I've seen it about 10 times now and not once does it look to be offside to me. Haven't seen the tackle, but the Henderson goal looked to me like it should have counted. Can't see any part of Mane being offside.
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Post by telfordstokie on Oct 18, 2020 17:57:21 GMT
Title race wide open now, especially with Alisson out for a while too - can see Man City taking advantage.
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Post by meltonjohn on Oct 18, 2020 18:15:53 GMT
Pickford has form, remember the tackle on Choupo-Moting when he equalized in our home match having been brought on as a sub, had to be substituted. Said at the time that the tackle was a red regardless of us scoring. Was about to post about Pickford on Choupo Moting when I saw your post. Completely agree. He’s a dirty sod and has got away with foot first challenges for years.
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Post by meltonjohn on Oct 18, 2020 18:21:48 GMT
VAR in principle is a good idea because it gives the ref more info on which to make a decision. That is why it is called Video Assistant Referee - Assistant is the key word. There should be only one person making the decision and that is the guy on the pitch. This is where it all goes wrong because some guys in a box with a vid miles away are taking the decision out of the refs hands and saying "You're wrong mate he was off". They should advise the ref - in confidence - that in their opinion he has got something wrong and change his decision but I would say at the end opf the day he is policing the game in the way he thinks best - ideally from a spectator point of view. For example letting the game flow - not getting the cards out allowing for conditions on the pitch etc. Trying to create "fairness" by minutely adhering to the rules through VAR is killing the game for spectators with delays, decisions arriving from afar, finger tip off sides etc. There is the "spirit of the game" to consider as well as managing the rules. Having said this it would mean refs would have to step up and publicly explain their decisions which so far they have been reluctant to do. Personally I think if there would or might possibly less criticism of them being homers or having bid team bias. If they don't own their decisions and now increasingly are protected by VAR then I think trust and refs and the system in general will simply go down further. On Pickford - a clear red but the ref bottled it because it was "early in the game" and would create "too much of a disadvantage" the intent was clear and it was violent. The fact that he went the other way with a later decision shows inconsistency. Also on Pickford and back to matters Stoke City - I have never forgiven Southgate for not picking Jack for the dead rubber world cup game against Belgium when he gave various other squad fillers another cap and a world cup appearance. Overall I suspect jack is a much more grounded bloke than Pickford despite all his troubles and disappointments Anyway good luck to jack in the future. Always felt Jack was committed to the England cause and got sfa in reward. Saw his last game for England, friendly against Switzerland at Leicester in September 2018. Shaw was playing for Switzerland as well. Seems a lifetime ago...
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 18, 2020 18:30:09 GMT
Just switched Sky Sports on. Has Virgil died overnight?
Since when has an ACL injury become a life threatening injury?
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Post by lordb on Oct 18, 2020 18:31:40 GMT
Just switched Sky Sports on. Has Virgil died overnight? Since when has an ACL injury become a life threatening injury? When it's to a player of a 'big 6' club
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Post by meltonjohn on Oct 18, 2020 18:32:16 GMT
Pickford has form, remember the tackle on Choupo-Moting when he equalized in our home match having been brought on as a sub, had to be substituted. Said at the time that the tackle was a red regardless of us scoring. Was about to post about Pickford on Choupo Moting when I saw your post. Completely agree. He’s a dirty sod and has got away with foot first challenges for years.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 18, 2020 19:41:15 GMT
Just scrap it, but that said Lpool were very fortunate with VAR decisions last season in my opinion. I can only remember one that went against them against Villa thst could be debated. You think they wouldn't have won the League without VAR?
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 18, 2020 19:45:18 GMT
Just scrap it, but that said Lpool were very fortunate with VAR decisions last season in my opinion. I can only remember one that went against them against Villa thst could be debated. You think they wouldn't have won the League without VAR? Did I say that???
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Post by thehoof on Oct 18, 2020 20:24:12 GMT
I’m sure ( given the confirmation of Dick’s need for surgery) that the Flying Salmon can look forward to a retrospective 3 game ban. At some stage his eccentricities will cost England big time in a major tournament.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 18, 2020 22:05:21 GMT
Just switched Sky Sports on. Has Virgil died overnight? Since when has an ACL injury become a life threatening injury? When it's to a player of a 'big 6' club Fuck me, he's released statement now about god and everything happens for a reason. You got injured playing football pal. Get over yourself. I'm having my knee op on 30th october having dislocated my knee playing tennis 4 weeks ago. God has got fuck all to do with it. It's an injury playing sport. Jeez. Pathetic scousers. Anyone would think the world was ending.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 18, 2020 22:09:50 GMT
When it's to a player of a 'big 6' club Fuck me, he's released statement now about god and everything happens for a reason. You got injured playing football pal. Get over yourself. I'm having my knee op on 30th october having dislocated my knee playing tennis 4 weeks ago. God has got fuck all to do with it. It's an injury playing sport. Jeez. Pathetic scousers. Anyone would think the world was ending. 🤣 Well that’s one way of looking at it it suppose!
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 18, 2020 22:15:29 GMT
When it's to a player of a 'big 6' club Fuck me, he's released statement now about god and everything happens for a reason. You got injured playing football pal. Get over yourself. I'm having my knee op on 30th october having dislocated my knee playing tennis 4 weeks ago. God has got fuck all to do with it. It's an injury playing sport. Jeez. Pathetic scousers. Anyone would think the world was ending. It’s like the VAR at the end. They were hard done by but how many decisions have they had go their way in the past. What makes them special.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Oct 18, 2020 22:26:26 GMT
Fuck me, he's released statement now about god and everything happens for a reason. You got injured playing football pal. Get over yourself. I'm having my knee op on 30th october having dislocated my knee playing tennis 4 weeks ago. God has got fuck all to do with it. It's an injury playing sport. Jeez. Pathetic scousers. Anyone would think the world was ending. It’s like the VAR at the end. They were hard done by but how many decisions have they had go their way in the past. What makes them special. Apparently it's because they are liverpool and it means more!!!
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 18, 2020 22:43:05 GMT
I’m sure ( given the confirmation of Dick’s need for surgery) that the Flying Salmon can look forward to a retrospective 3 game ban. At some stage his eccentricities will cost England big time in a major tournament. The blokes several tiles short of a roof. I’ve always said he’s a fruit loop. And listen to him interviewed. He’s brain dead. You only have to look at him ranting and raving on the pitch to realise. That tackle is horrendous and how anyone can watch that in slow motion (VAR) and deem it not to be a sending off is scandalous regardless of who it was on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2020 23:00:51 GMT
It’s like the VAR at the end. They were hard done by but how many decisions have they had go their way in the past. What makes them special. Apparently it's because they are liverpool and it means more!!! That "this means more" around the ground/area really pisses me off. Cringe worthy dicks with a worrying tendancy for full kit wankery.
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Post by upthefud on Oct 18, 2020 23:19:35 GMT
It was a shite tackle but Pickford is getting a bit of unnecessary flak here. It was clumsy but not malicious by any means. Richarlison's was far worse.
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