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Post by supersimonstainrod on Oct 19, 2020 10:46:42 GMT
You can see why they filmed that zombie movie with Paddy Considine in Hanley. For extras, presumably they pulled a couple of regulars out of The Auctioneer, improved their wardrobe and paid them £20? Yes,demolishing the bus station complex has even deprived us of our niche as the location of choice for producers of future dystopian shit hole movies....
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Post by felonious on Oct 19, 2020 12:09:23 GMT
Can there be a town or a city in England where the inhabitants strive so desperately to run the place down? I went to North in Hanley yesterday for a late breakfast. Drove from the A500 up to Tescos, walked up to North, nothing unpleasant about the journey by foot or by car. Has a nice meal in a nice enviroment served by decent staff over a couple of hours. I was in Stoke town on Saturday morning for a run and the conversation got around to how much the town was improving. You need to break the cycle lads
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Post by elystokie on Oct 19, 2020 12:33:24 GMT
Can there be a town or a city in England where the inhabitants strive so desperately to run the place down? I went to North in Hanley yesterday for a late breakfast. Drove from the A500 up to Tescos, walked up to North, nothing unpleasant about the journey by foot or by car. Has a nice meal in a nice enviroment served by decent staff over a couple of hours. I was in Stoke town on Saturday morning for a run and the conversation got around to how much the town was improving. You need to break the cycle lads But it's so much easier to bitch and moan isnt it? When I visited Cambridge pre lock down I was approached far more by beggars than I've ever been in Hanley and it wasn't just the city centre, it was more or less all over the place.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 19, 2020 14:57:55 GMT
Can there be a town or a city in England where the inhabitants strive so desperately to run the place down? I went to North in Hanley yesterday for a late breakfast. Drove from the A500 up to Tescos, walked up to North, nothing unpleasant about the journey by foot or by car. Has a nice meal in a nice enviroment served by decent staff over a couple of hours. I was in Stoke town on Saturday morning for a run and the conversation got around to how much the town was improving. You need to break the cycle lads But it's so much easier to bitch and moan isnt it? When I visited Cambridge pre lock down I was approached far more by beggars than I've ever been in Hanley and it wasn't just the city centre, it was more or less all over the place. Yes but I'm fairly sure the shops, eateries and bars in Cambridge were a notch or two up from Hanley.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 19, 2020 15:10:17 GMT
But it's so much easier to bitch and moan isnt it? When I visited Cambridge pre lock down I was approached far more by beggars than I've ever been in Hanley and it wasn't just the city centre, it was more or less all over the place. Yes but I'm fairly sure the shops, eateries and bars in Cambridge were a notch or two up from Hanley. If you're talking price then they most definitely were! Otherwise yeh, in the tourist areas there's a few interesting pubs and some lanes where there's independent shops, I thoroughly enjoyed myself on the whole but the folk ain't that friendly (far from the worst on that front) and some of the prices made me feel I was being ripped off. That doesn't mean I viewed Hanley any differently when I returned, I reckon if you look for good you'll invariably find it, same as if you look for bad
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Oct 19, 2020 15:59:53 GMT
Can there be a town or a city in England where the inhabitants strive so desperately to run the place down? I went to North in Hanley yesterday for a late breakfast. Drove from the A500 up to Tescos, walked up to North, nothing unpleasant about the journey by foot or by car. Has a nice meal in a nice enviroment served by decent staff over a couple of hours. I was in Stoke town on Saturday morning for a run and the conversation got around to how much the town was improving. You need to break the cycle lads I was in Hanley earlier today for the first time in a good while,wasn't previously aware of the bespoke 'Spitfire Exhibition' site currently under construction,which will hopefully be a fantastic fillip for the town when finished and the fully restored plane is in situ.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 25, 2020 8:33:54 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 25, 2020 9:47:09 GMT
I'm not suggesting that this didn't happen but let's take a closer look at that piece of 'journalism' shall we? - Quotes merely attributed to 'a gran' - The person providing the quote has an uncanny knack of speaking in the way that a tabloid 'journalist' would write, full of hyperbole and emotive phrases - The location of where this supposedly happened is not named, merely referred to as a 'Hanley cafe' - No quote from the business owner - No mention of whether the police were informed / attended - The quote from Paul Williams is from a separate story not related to this one and has been tacked on the end to make it look like it's a direct response to this 'incident' and provide veracity. Hanley and the city as a whole has its issues but this despicable local paper seems hellbent on whipping up fear and doing this city down at every opportunity - what does it achieve in continously posting shite like this and other articles that keep pushing the narrative that Hanley is (to use their own vernacular) "the land of the living dead"? I'll tell you what it achieves; clicks and outrage amongst its readership and the fuelling of negative attitudes across the whole city which contribute to the 'Stoke on Trent Disease' of forever looking backwards and immediately scoffing at anyone or anything that tries to push things forwards. What this shitrag and its cunt 'journalists' should be doing is asking serious questions of our leaders as to how the city centre has been allowed to become the favoured destination of undesirables - why have services been cut to the point that there's people with serious issues wandering about putting shoppers off? - how many brown envelopes have been passed around to allow a private, commercial venture (Shiter Futures) who have no interest in rehabilitating their 'customers' (because as soon as they're rehabilitated there's no more funding coming their way for that 'customer') to import troubled people in need of specialist care into our city from beyond its boundaries? - whose bright idea was it to situate the new and improved Macari Centre directly across the road from a new housing development built by the council itself and into which it hopes to attract young professionals? Of course, there's no way this pathetic excuse for a paper will be asking these things, because its cheaper and easier to make up bollocks like this story and the hundreds of others like it that it runs because 'DON'T GO HANLEY BECAUSE SOMEONE YOU BELIEVE TO BE BENEATH YOU WILL DO A SHIT AT YOU' headlines is what gets people frothing at the mouth and clicking like there's no tomorrow. There are many factors that hold this city back and prevent it from achieving its potential but it it isn't helped one bit by this newspaper. Fuck The Sentinel.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 25, 2020 11:10:10 GMT
I'm not suggesting that this didn't happen but let's take a closer look at that piece of 'journalism' shall we? - Quotes merely attributed to 'a gran' - The person providing the quote has an uncanny knack of speaking in the way that a tabloid 'journalist' would write, full of hyperbole and emotive phrases - The location of where this supposedly happened is not named, merely referred to as a 'Hanley cafe' - No quote from the business owner - No mention of whether the police were informed / attended - The quote from Paul Williams is from a separate story not related to this one and has been tacked on the end to make it look like it's a direct response to this 'incident' and provide veracity. Hanley and the city as a whole has its issues but this despicable local paper seems hellbent on whipping up fear and doing this city down at every opportunity - what does it achieve in continously posting shite like this and other articles that keep pushing the narrative that Hanley is (to use their own vernacular) "the land of the living dead". I'll tell you what it achieves; clicks and outrage amongst its readership and the fuelling of negative attitudes across the whole city which contribute to the 'Stoke on Trent Disease' of forever looking backwards and immediately scoffing at anyone or anything that tries to push things forwards. What this shitrag and its cunt 'journalists' should be doing is asking serious questions of our leaders as to how the city centre has been allowed to become the favoured destination of undesirables - why have services been cut to the point that there's people with serious issues wandering about putting shoppers off? - how many brown envelopes have been passed around to allow a private, commercial venture (Shiter Futures) who have no interest in rehabilitating their 'customers' (because as soon as they're rehabilitated there's no more funding coming their way for that 'customer') to import troubled people in need of specialist care into our city from beyond its boundaries? - who's bright idea was it to situate the new and improved Macari Centre directly across the road from a new housing development built by the council itself and into which it hopes to attract young professionals? Of course, there's no way this pathetic excuse for a paper will be asking these things, because its cheaper and easier to make up bollocks like this story and the hundreds of others like it that it runs because 'DON'T GO HANLEY BECAUSE SOMEONE YOU BELIEVE TO BE BENEATH YOU WILL DO A SHIT AT YOU' headlines is what gets people frothing at the mouth and clicking like there's no tomorrow. There are many factors that hold this city back and prevent it from achieving its potential but it it isn't helped one bit by this newspaper. Fuck The Sentinel. Yep pretty much sums it up
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 25, 2020 12:17:52 GMT
- how many brown envelopes have been passed around to allow a private, commercial venture (Shiter Futures) who have no interest in rehabilitating their 'customers' (because as soon as they're rehabilitated there's no more funding coming their way for that 'customer') to import troubled people in need of specialist care into our city from beyond its boundaries? - whose bright idea was it to situate the new and improved Macari Centre directly across the road from a new housing development built by the council itself and into which it hopes to attract young professionals? In question 1 you need to include the likes of Concrete (Arch) in this and look at the pay and benefits of the directors of these 'not for profit' organisations, and compare them to the just above minimum wage that they pay their front line staff delivering these services. I'd throw Common Purpose membership into that mix too and see how many graduates are on this sort of gravy train locally. With regard to question 2 the answer is the council. So that they can sell off the old Regent Road site as a whole. Besides Clayworks will end up as accommodation for these people eventually.
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 25, 2020 13:00:23 GMT
- how many brown envelopes have been passed around to allow a private, commercial venture (Shiter Futures) who have no interest in rehabilitating their 'customers' (because as soon as they're rehabilitated there's no more funding coming their way for that 'customer') to import troubled people in need of specialist care into our city from beyond its boundaries? - whose bright idea was it to situate the new and improved Macari Centre directly across the road from a new housing development built by the council itself and into which it hopes to attract young professionals? In question 1 you need to include the likes of Concrete (Arch) in this and look at the pay and benefits of the directors of these 'not for profit' organisations, and compare them to the just above minimum wage that they pay their front line staff delivering these services. I'd throw Common Purpose membership into that mix too and see how many graduates are on this sort of gravy train locally. With regard to question 2 the answer is the council. So that they can sell off the old Regent Road site as a whole. Besides Clayworks will end up as accommodation for these people eventually. I'm not sure even our short-sighted city council will be stupid enough to turn over a flagship development (paid for by taxpayers) to a gaggle of quangos that purport to help people with serious issues with social integration (in lieu of the council actually spending that taxpayers money on providing the services needed to properly help). Despite what the torrent of narrow-minded Sentinel commenter sadsacks continually honk on about, developments like this and that of the several hotels being built or in planning are what is desperately needed in this city. I work for a large employer in Stoke (no, not that one) and we find it really difficult to attract suitable candidates for senior management / executive roles. This is partly due to a lack of the required skills in this city - all those locals that do possess them have most likely relocated to find a job that best utilises them or live in Stoke but commute to Manchester/Birmingham for work - but also because it's hard to attract qualified, skilled people from outside the area when there's a dearth of suitable accommodation. It's worth remembering that whilst house prices are low and rents comparatively cheap, not everyone relocating to SOT necessarily wants to buy or rent a clapped out terrace/room in a HMO. The same goes for a lack of quality hotel accommodation. My company hosts several visitors from across the world pretty much every week, most of whom stay for 2-3 days. Do you know where we put them up? Usually Crewe Hall or Wychwood Park and then shell out on Ubers to ferry them about whilst they're here, purely because there's a dearth of hotels of a suitable standard which we'd feel comfortable in putting up a CEO of a multinational company. Those visitors are not only bringing potential new investment to a firm that creates jobs in the local area, but they've also got the potential to input into the local economy personally via shopping locally, going for a meal in a restaurant, visiting the Bet365 etc. But they don't, because they're stopping in Cheshire for the duration of their stay. Hopefully, the council realises the untapped potential economic benefits and sees that they outweigh paying millions to outsource their provision for vulnerable/drug addiction/homelessness to feckless 'charities' who merely enable those with problems to continue their destructive lifestyles and blight our city centre with anti-social behaviour. If they don't then Clayworks could be a bigger white elephant than Unity House which it replaced.
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Post by zerps on Oct 25, 2020 15:24:27 GMT
Talking of the world being fucked
You’ll struggle to stop at a red traffic light in brum without a meth head knocking on your window rattling a change cup nowadays
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Post by ashleyscfc on Oct 25, 2020 17:34:53 GMT
I'm not suggesting that this didn't happen but let's take a closer look at that piece of 'journalism' shall we? - Quotes merely attributed to 'a gran' - The person providing the quote has an uncanny knack of speaking in the way that a tabloid 'journalist' would write, full of hyperbole and emotive phrases - The location of where this supposedly happened is not named, merely referred to as a 'Hanley cafe' - No quote from the business owner - No mention of whether the police were informed / attended - The quote from Paul Williams is from a separate story not related to this one and has been tacked on the end to make it look like it's a direct response to this 'incident' and provide veracity. Hanley and the city as a whole has its issues but this despicable local paper seems hellbent on whipping up fear and doing this city down at every opportunity - what does it achieve in continously posting shite like this and other articles that keep pushing the narrative that Hanley is (to use their own vernacular) "the land of the living dead". I'll tell you what it achieves; clicks and outrage amongst its readership and the fuelling of negative attitudes across the whole city which contribute to the 'Stoke on Trent Disease' of forever looking backwards and immediately scoffing at anyone or anything that tries to push things forwards. What this shitrag and its cunt 'journalists' should be doing is asking serious questions of our leaders as to how the city centre has been allowed to become the favoured destination of undesirables - why have services been cut to the point that there's people with serious issues wandering about putting shoppers off? - how many brown envelopes have been passed around to allow a private, commercial venture (Shiter Futures) who have no interest in rehabilitating their 'customers' (because as soon as they're rehabilitated there's no more funding coming their way for that 'customer') to import troubled people in need of specialist care into our city from beyond its boundaries? - whose bright idea was it to situate the new and improved Macari Centre directly across the road from a new housing development built by the council itself and into which it hopes to attract young professionals? Of course, there's no way this pathetic excuse for a paper will be asking these things, because its cheaper and easier to make up bollocks like this story and the hundreds of others like it that it runs because 'DON'T GO HANLEY BECAUSE SOMEONE YOU BELIEVE TO BE BENEATH YOU WILL DO A SHIT AT YOU' headlines is what gets people frothing at the mouth and clicking like there's no tomorrow. There are many factors that hold this city back and prevent it from achieving its potential but it it isn't helped one bit by this newspaper. Fuck The Sentinel. This this and this again
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Post by elystokie on Oct 25, 2020 17:51:10 GMT
I'm not suggesting that this didn't happen but let's take a closer look at that piece of 'journalism' shall we? - Quotes merely attributed to 'a gran' - The person providing the quote has an uncanny knack of speaking in the way that a tabloid 'journalist' would write, full of hyperbole and emotive phrases - The location of where this supposedly happened is not named, merely referred to as a 'Hanley cafe' - No quote from the business owner - No mention of whether the police were informed / attended - The quote from Paul Williams is from a separate story not related to this one and has been tacked on the end to make it look like it's a direct response to this 'incident' and provide veracity. Hanley and the city as a whole has its issues but this despicable local paper seems hellbent on whipping up fear and doing this city down at every opportunity - what does it achieve in continously posting shite like this and other articles that keep pushing the narrative that Hanley is (to use their own vernacular) "the land of the living dead". I'll tell you what it achieves; clicks and outrage amongst its readership and the fuelling of negative attitudes across the whole city which contribute to the 'Stoke on Trent Disease' of forever looking backwards and immediately scoffing at anyone or anything that tries to push things forwards. What this shitrag and its cunt 'journalists' should be doing is asking serious questions of our leaders as to how the city centre has been allowed to become the favoured destination of undesirables - why have services been cut to the point that there's people with serious issues wandering about putting shoppers off? - how many brown envelopes have been passed around to allow a private, commercial venture (Shiter Futures) who have no interest in rehabilitating their 'customers' (because as soon as they're rehabilitated there's no more funding coming their way for that 'customer') to import troubled people in need of specialist care into our city from beyond its boundaries? - whose bright idea was it to situate the new and improved Macari Centre directly across the road from a new housing development built by the council itself and into which it hopes to attract young professionals? Of course, there's no way this pathetic excuse for a paper will be asking these things, because its cheaper and easier to make up bollocks like this story and the hundreds of others like it that it runs because 'DON'T GO HANLEY BECAUSE SOMEONE YOU BELIEVE TO BE BENEATH YOU WILL DO A SHIT AT YOU' headlines is what gets people frothing at the mouth and clicking like there's no tomorrow. There are many factors that hold this city back and prevent it from achieving its potential but it it isn't helped one bit by this newspaper. Fuck The Sentinel. It's one of the worst local newspapers I've ever encountered, I'm baffled how they have the nerve to charge for it. As critical as I've been in the past about aspects of Portsmouth, their local newspaper knocks the Sentinel out of the park, which given their relative catchment areas is shameful for the Sentinel, I'll be amazed if it's still around in 5 years time.
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Post by danceswithclams on Oct 25, 2020 18:11:15 GMT
I'll be amazed if it's still around in 12 months time.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 25, 2020 21:18:42 GMT
I read an article on Sentinel Online the other day and counted four spelling mistakes. In one article.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 25, 2020 21:29:50 GMT
I read an article on Sentinel Online the other day and counted four spelling mistakes. In one article. I’d say it was like a school kid had wrote for them but that’s unkind to schoolkids.
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Post by NassauDave on Oct 26, 2020 2:54:52 GMT
Can there be a town or a city in England where the inhabitants strive so desperately to run the place down? I went to North in Hanley yesterday for a late breakfast. Drove from the A500 up to Tescos, walked up to North, nothing unpleasant about the journey by foot or by car. Has a nice meal in a nice enviroment served by decent staff over a couple of hours. I was in Stoke town on Saturday morning for a run and the conversation got around to how much the town was improving. You need to break the cycle lads Bike vandalism will be the next Sentivale story.
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Post by misterj on Oct 30, 2020 19:58:31 GMT
Agree with most comments above. What I will say is that post Covid there are hardly any professional people in Hanley of an evening due to the Regent Theatre being closed, no gigs at the Victoria Hall and the Cineworld cinema not in use. Also lots of our best venues are at festival park such as ten pin bowling, Waterworld and the ski centre, this all adds up to folk vacating the city centre outside shopping/office 9-5 hours ..... the situation is desperate, it needs someone with realism, creativity and ..... money (John Caldwell/Peter Coates are you listening? No I didn’t think so!!)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 30, 2020 20:11:17 GMT
Agree with most comments above. What I will say is that post Covid there are hardly any professional people in Hanley of an evening due to the Regent Theatre being closed, no gigs at the Victoria Hall and the Cineworld cinema not in use. Also lots of our best venues are at festival park such as ten pin bowling, Waterworld and the ski centre, this all adds up to folk vacating the city centre outside shopping/office 9-5 hours ..... the situation is desperate, it needs someone with realism, creativity and ..... money (John Caldwell/Peter Coates are you listening? No I didn’t think so!!) To be fair to Coates/Caudwell et all, they aren’t the only people with some cash. There’s loads of multi million pound entrepreneurs in the city but they must think what’s the point. How are they going to get any kind of return when the city is run the way it is. The people of Stoke deserve better
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Post by misterj on Oct 31, 2020 8:10:17 GMT
True
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