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Post by werrington on Oct 13, 2020 6:01:15 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 6:09:03 GMT
It’s what the city is crying out for.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 6:33:04 GMT
It’s going to revolutionize the way I smoke spice and open up a whole world of previously inaccessible charity shops and bookies.
To be fair building anything apart from a council building is a step forward. The council will probably fuck it up but will be nice to think about before it crumbles.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 13, 2020 6:45:09 GMT
It just won’t happen will it?
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Post by elystokie on Oct 13, 2020 7:38:36 GMT
Early indications are that it's really captured the imagination of the residents of Hartshill...
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 13, 2020 7:40:19 GMT
First the gay bar, now we've got trams in the city. Whatever next.
Oh, trams you said.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 13, 2020 8:53:02 GMT
Jellybaby is a fantasist? When Sheffield first had trams they were so expensive no-one travelled on them! Who in Stoke has got the spare dosh to travel about on trams? Interestingly, the arena will be built last? He means it will never be built? Britain’s debt to GDP will be 110% the highest since WW2 and stay above 100% for many years thereafter? Where’s the government cash to turn this fantasist’s dreams into reality coming from?
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Post by elystokie on Oct 13, 2020 9:48:32 GMT
Jellybaby is a fantasist? When Sheffield first had trams they were so expensive no-one travelled on them! Who in Stoke has got the spare dosh to travel about on trams? Interestingly, the arena will be built last? He means it will never be built? Britain’s debt to GDP will be 110% the highest since WW2 and stay above 100% for many years thereafter? Where’s the government cash to turn this fantasist’s dreams into reality coming from? I remember going Sheffield in the early 80s to see a mate and catching a bus, gave my money to the conductor and he gave me nearly all of it back! The buses were so heavily subsidised they were practically free, quite strange but most welcome, maybe the residents had become somewhat "spoiled" by the time they introduced trams?
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Post by TrentValePotter96 on Oct 13, 2020 10:03:28 GMT
None of this is getting built. Wait for the sentinel headlines in 2023.
Who gives SOT money to build an arena in a time in which people can't gather?
And trams would be good... but do we *really* need them?
Fact is if the area wants money it's got to give it all to Hanley. None of this six towns stuff, if they tried fo spend £££ on a arena in Hanley people would moan about their crap bus stop in Longton.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 13, 2020 10:05:36 GMT
I imagine if a team was built the first part would be the station to the city centre. After that it would be about demand. Cant see it reaching my hometown, longton, for 20 years.
A shame we closed the loop line and all the old mineral lines as it would have been an amazing network.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 10:07:33 GMT
This made me snicker in the comments:
"Wrighty4037 38 MIN AGO I thought Hanley already had a TRAMP network."
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Oct 13, 2020 10:10:00 GMT
Jellybaby is a fantasist? When Sheffield first had trams they were so expensive no-one travelled on them! Who in Stoke has got the spare dosh to travel about on trams? Interestingly, the arena will be built last? He means it will never be built? Britain’s debt to GDP will be 110% the highest since WW2 and stay above 100% for many years thereafter? Where’s the government cash to turn this fantasist’s dreams into reality coming from? I remember going Sheffield in the early 80s to see a mate and catching a bus, gave my money to the conductor and he gave me nearly all of it back! The buses were so heavily subsidised they were practically free, quite strange but most welcome, maybe the residents had become somewhat "spoiled" by the time they introduced trams? Apparently, the problem in Sheffield was that the original lines linked the poorest parts of the city? So the locals were broke? Stoke has one of the lowest usage rates of buses in any city in England? Pensioners wouldn’t use buses even with bus passes? So, assuming trams are more expensive to operate who is going to subsidise the running costs? Tory Stoke is broke, Tory UK plc is broke, most stokies are broke!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 10:31:05 GMT
Cant see it reaching my hometown, longton, for 20 years. they can be pretty slow to travel on but not that bad I haven't been in Hanley for quite some time but it seriously needs something doing .Quite a depressing place
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Post by wagsastokie on Oct 13, 2020 10:37:32 GMT
The first of many future plans to make up for years of socialist fuck ups inflicted on the good people of stoke who have finally seen sense and turned blue
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Post by thevoid on Oct 13, 2020 10:48:56 GMT
Just like the Leek Line, I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post by spiderpuss on Oct 13, 2020 11:02:29 GMT
Not this story again! This story is dusted down ever 5 years by the Sentinel when the click throughs aren't happening on the latest depressing C-19 news. It won't happen. The Sentinel must have an archive of this nonsense that gets filed away for occasions like this.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 13, 2020 11:45:34 GMT
I remember going Sheffield in the early 80s to see a mate and catching a bus, gave my money to the conductor and he gave me nearly all of it back! The buses were so heavily subsidised they were practically free, quite strange but most welcome, maybe the residents had become somewhat "spoiled" by the time they introduced trams? Apparently, the problem in Sheffield was that the original lines linked the poorest parts of the city? So the locals were broke? Stoke has one of the lowest usage rates of buses in any city in England? Pensioners wouldn’t use buses even with bus passes? So, assuming trams are more expensive to operate who is going to subsidise the running costs? Tory Stoke is broke, Tory UK plc is broke, most stokies are broke! I wasn't offering any answers mate, I haven't though about it that deeply and I haven't got a strong opinion on it either way, I was merely relating an experience I'd had. Sorry if I misled you but I'm not the person you need to speak to with all your questions :/
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Post by franklin on Oct 13, 2020 12:11:52 GMT
This country is in the dark ages for communication links any additional infrastructure would be great the problems are will it be affordable as it is in the continent. Our trains and tram systems are an expensive joke. On a side note how is it possible to fly almost anywhere in Europe cheaper than I can fly to London.
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Post by felonious on Oct 13, 2020 13:27:21 GMT
Jellybaby is a fantasist? When Sheffield first had trams they were so expensive no-one travelled on them! Who in Stoke has got the spare dosh to travel about on trams? Interestingly, the arena will be built last? He means it will never be built? Britain’s debt to GDP will be 110% the highest since WW2 and stay above 100% for many years thereafter? Where’s the government cash to turn this fantasist’s dreams into reality coming from? I remember going Sheffield in the early 80s to see a mate and catching a bus, gave my money to the conductor and he gave me nearly all of it back! The buses were so heavily subsidised they were practically free, quite strange but most welcome, maybe the residents had become somewhat "spoiled" by the time they introduced trams? Well it was known as The People's Republic of Sheffield
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2020 13:32:26 GMT
We should take a leaf out of North Haverbook and Ogdenville's book and have a monorail.
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Post by franklin on Oct 13, 2020 14:21:16 GMT
We should take a leaf out of North Haverbook and Ogdenville's book and have a monorail. That is an excellent comparison to our current infrastructure 😂
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Post by lordb on Oct 13, 2020 16:39:06 GMT
'here is currently no obvious source of funding'
Seem to recall a similar Sentinel story along these lines from about 30 years ago
so we will get more 'plans' in 2050 then
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 13, 2020 16:53:56 GMT
This country is in the dark ages for communication links any additional infrastructure would be great the problems are will it be affordable as it is in the continent. Our trains and tram systems are an expensive joke. On a side note how is it possible to fly almost anywhere in Europe cheaper than I can fly to London. Very true. When I worked in the steel industry for Corus the management from Teesside, Scunthorpe, London HO, and Port Talbot would meet regularly at IJmuiden, Netherlands. We could all fly there early morning from our local airports, gaining an hour, hold a meeting till mid pm, and fly home in the evening. Until we started doing video conferencing. Regarding city commuting. I live near York and you would be mad to use a car, due to congestion and high city centre parking fees. There is an excellent park and ride service, with free parking terminals all round the city and £1.20* to ride into the city centre along express ways, every 10 minutes. * concessionary, £3.30 full price return. Stoke desperately needs some expansive action to boost commerce in the city, but the negative attitude of many offers little encouragement. One essential requirement is parking facilities all along the tram routes to facilitate park and ride
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 13, 2020 17:46:53 GMT
Just like the Leek Line, I'll believe it when I see it. Another wasted opportunity to link part of the city to the central station.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Oct 13, 2020 19:39:46 GMT
2nd wave of Covid about to hit the economy very hard, I would be very surprised if the money will now be found for something it couldn't be found for before the world changed.
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Post by jonnybravo on Oct 13, 2020 20:23:00 GMT
Stoke on trent to enter the 20th century, 50 years behind everyone else It's what we need though
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Post by Cast no shadow on Oct 13, 2020 21:03:05 GMT
Probably be ran on coal.
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 13, 2020 22:39:37 GMT
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Oct 14, 2020 21:24:24 GMT
Don't think trams would work in Stoke due to the shape and size of the city.
Stoke to Hanley and Newcastle maybe would be OK.
Are trams really that good anyway,??
Would be betterpputting the money into electric buses and making them more appealing to the people.
Opening train lines to Leek and Uttoxeter,
Suspended monorail wouldbe the way to go
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Post by maninasuitcase on Oct 14, 2020 21:37:03 GMT
Don't think trams would work in Stoke due to the shape and size of the city. Stoke to Hanley and Newcastle maybe would be OK. Are trams really that good anyway,?? Would be betterpputting the money into electric buses and making them more appealing to the people. Opening train lines to Leek and Uttoxeter, Suspended monorail wouldbe the way to go We already have a train line to uttoxeter?? Or do you mean via leek, oakamoor and alton towers. ??
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