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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 2, 2020 7:34:58 GMT
Bristol City 1-1 Forest 4-1 Millwall 0-0 Wolves 1-0 Preston 1-0 Villa 1-0 Fantastic turnaround in the form and long may it continue
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Post by pmjh on Oct 2, 2020 7:46:41 GMT
The manager said he needed to sort the away form out and that's exactly what he's done. Hopefully last night shows that he realises he needs a system where the wing backs can get forward more. MON is a pragmatic guy and in time I'm convinced he will succeed.
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Post by walrus on Oct 2, 2020 8:14:56 GMT
I’m of the opinion that home and away form as we know it doesn’t really exist in a behind closed doors world. Every match should be treated as a stand-alone on neutral territory.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 2, 2020 8:18:36 GMT
I’m of the opinion that home and away form as we know it doesn’t really exist in a behind closed doors world. Every match should be treated as a stand-alone on neutral territory. It isn't really neutral though is it? Obviously fans make a big difference but your home patch is going to be a lot more familiar to you than to your opposition? That breeds confidence.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2020 8:22:20 GMT
I’m of the opinion that home and away form as we know it doesn’t really exist in a behind closed doors world. Every match should be treated as a stand-alone on neutral territory. It isn't really neutral though is it? Obviously fans make a big difference but your home patch is going to be a lot more familiar to you than to your opposition? That breeds confidence. Agreed Chief. It definitely reduces the advantage though, like you say, and I imagine the stats will bear that out over time, with more teams getting results away from home.
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Post by walrus on Oct 2, 2020 8:27:57 GMT
I’m of the opinion that home and away form as we know it doesn’t really exist in a behind closed doors world. Every match should be treated as a stand-alone on neutral territory. It isn't really neutral though is it? Obviously fans make a big difference but your home patch is going to be a lot more familiar to you than to your opposition? That breeds confidence. So far this season in the Premier League there have been nine home wins and sixteen away wins. In the Championship it’s a bit more even. Fourteen home wins and thirteen away wins. Even if there are minor advantages to familiarity with the pitch and surroundings the results so far strongly suggest playing at home no longer significantly benefits a team. That’s why I say every game should be treated as if it’s on neutral ground.
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Post by Gods on Oct 2, 2020 8:31:12 GMT
We do need to work out how to score 2 goals in a game not 1 though don't we? This applies to home as well as away so at the moment if we concede even 1 goal we don't win.
Fix the Goals For column without screwing up the Goals Against column, that's the challenge!
Fabulous turnaround though for sure!
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Post by walrus on Oct 2, 2020 8:34:03 GMT
We do need to work out how to score 2 goals in a game not 1 though don't we? This applies to home as well as a away of if we concede even 1 goal we don't win. Fix the Goals For column without screwing up the Goals Against column, that's the challenge! Fabulous turnaround though for sure! We just need to start burying the easy chances. Vokes missed a bad one in the second half last night. A few went begging at Preston last week.
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Post by Gods on Oct 2, 2020 8:35:23 GMT
It isn't really neutral though is it? Obviously fans make a big difference but your home patch is going to be a lot more familiar to you than to your opposition? That breeds confidence. So far this season in the Premier League there have been nine home wins and sixteen away wins. In the Championship it’s a bit more even. Fourteen home wins and thirteen away wins. Even if there are minor advantages to familiarity with the pitch and surroundings the results so far strongly suggest playing at home no longer significantly benefits a team. That’s why I say every game should be treated as if it’s on neutral ground. Either that or get our substitutes, coaching staff, technical analysts and ball boys and girls to build up an intimidating atmosphere. I'd like to hear a lot more noise when we score and perhaps a few more howls of derision at the referee and a hearty rendition of 'We'll see you all outside' aimed at the opposition bench.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 2, 2020 8:35:28 GMT
It isn't really neutral though is it? Obviously fans make a big difference but your home patch is going to be a lot more familiar to you than to your opposition? That breeds confidence. So far this season in the Premier League there have been nine home wins and sixteen away wins. In the Championship it’s a bit more even. Fourteen home wins and thirteen away wins. Even if there are minor advantages to familiarity with the pitch and surroundings the results so far strongly suggest playing at home no longer significantly benefits a team. That’s why I say every game should be treated as if it’s on neutral ground. That in itself doesn't really tell us enough though, does it? Especially not three games in? Let's see what the pattern's like by Christmas.
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Post by Goonie on Oct 2, 2020 8:38:39 GMT
Despite a creaky start to the season MON is a generally a great manager - just hope he can get us promoted before he's lured away
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2020 8:43:02 GMT
Hopefully he can try and get a bit more expansive now.
We saw it last night in the first half I thought where it wasn't a negative formation and it was down to Brown and Tymon being at wing back and providing that different dimension to the play.
At home though I still don't want to see 3 at the back because I just don't think we'll be that positive with it.
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 2, 2020 10:14:07 GMT
Bristol City 1-1 Forest 4-1 Millwall 0-0 Wolves 1-0 Preston 1-0 Villa 1-0 Fantastic turnaround in the form and long may it continue And Bristol was when he first went to 3/5 at the back to match their formation. Coincidence or does it prove it works? Last night showed how by changing the wing backs you can alter the way the system works. If we can rotate defensive/attacking wing backs to match the opposition without disrupting the team it seems a great piece of management.
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 2, 2020 16:27:38 GMT
It isn't really neutral though is it? Obviously fans make a big difference but your home patch is going to be a lot more familiar to you than to your opposition? That breeds confidence. So far this season in the Premier League there have been nine home wins and sixteen away wins. In the Championship it’s a bit more even. Fourteen home wins and thirteen away wins. Even if there are minor advantages to familiarity with the pitch and surroundings the results so far strongly suggest playing at home no longer significantly benefits a team. That’s why I say every game should be treated as if it’s on neutral ground. I think this is why some teams are struggling Sheffield United is a case in point United's home games last season reminded me of the early Prem games at the Brit, really intimidating for away teams, and that has been taken away and I think they will struggle Sheffield United have scored loads of late goals in the last few seasons and you feel these are inspired by their 12th man. Now there is no 12th man!
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Oct 2, 2020 17:24:12 GMT
Hopefully he can try and get a bit more expansive now. We saw it last night in the first half I thought where it wasn't a negative formation and it was down to Brown and Tymon being at wing back and providing that different dimension to the play. At home though I still don't want to see 3 at the back because I just don't think we'll be that positive with it. In 2 sentences you have managed to contradict yourself. Given your inability to accept you are ever wrong I'm seriously concerned about the consequences. Will you spontaneously explode or disappear in a cloud of of self self doubt?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 2, 2020 18:31:14 GMT
Hopefully he can try and get a bit more expansive now. We saw it last night in the first half I thought where it wasn't a negative formation and it was down to Brown and Tymon being at wing back and providing that different dimension to the play. At home though I still don't want to see 3 at the back because I just don't think we'll be that positive with it. In 2 sentences you have managed to contradict yourself. Given your inability to accept you are ever wrong I'm seriously concerned about the consequences. Will you spontaneously explode or disappear in a cloud of of self self doubt? I haven’t at all. Most of the evidence says he’s negative with it. 45 minutes doesn’t change that. And indeed he won’t play Brown there will at the weekend so it will inheritantly more negative. I don’t get what’s so hard to understand?
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 2, 2020 21:32:01 GMT
So far this season in the Premier League there have been nine home wins and sixteen away wins. In the Championship it’s a bit more even. Fourteen home wins and thirteen away wins. Even if there are minor advantages to familiarity with the pitch and surroundings the results so far strongly suggest playing at home no longer significantly benefits a team. That’s why I say every game should be treated as if it’s on neutral ground. I think this is why some teams are struggling Sheffield United is a case in point United's home games last season reminded me of the early Prem games at the Brit, really intimidating for away teams, and that has been taken away and I think they will struggle Sheffield United have scored loads of late goals in the last few seasons and you feel these are inspired by their 12th man. Now there is no 12th man! There's also less pressure on referees. I think a lot of 50-50 decisions go to home teams due to subconscious bias by the referee due to home supporters.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 17, 2020 15:59:43 GMT
Absolutely incredible how O’Neill has turned it around away from home👏👏
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Post by lordb on Oct 17, 2020 16:15:28 GMT
Five away games so far,two against Premier League sides and zero goals conceded.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 17, 2020 16:17:03 GMT
Five away games so far,two against Premier League sides and zero goals conceded. It really is a fantastic achievement when you sit back and think about it mate
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 17, 2020 16:26:50 GMT
Great achievement. Now he needs to send the team out with more intent at home.
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 17, 2020 16:46:06 GMT
Five away games so far,two against Premier League sides and zero goals conceded. It really is a fantastic achievement when you sit back and think about it mate I don't think the impact Davies has made should be underestimated either mate!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2020 16:47:10 GMT
Five away games so far,two against Premier League sides and zero goals conceded. Wonder when the last time we kept 5 away clean sheets on the bounce was? (Checks 1992/93 season stats and then gives up)
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 17, 2020 16:48:28 GMT
It really is a fantastic achievement when you sit back and think about it mate I don't think the impact Davies has made should be underestimated either mate! Yes mate I agree and he’s surprised me to be honest because I underestimated how decent he is
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Post by pottersrule on Oct 17, 2020 17:11:40 GMT
I don't think the impact Davies has made should be underestimated either mate! Yes mate I agree and he’s surprised me to be honest because I underestimated how decent he is I think we all did!
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