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Clucas
Oct 4, 2020 23:09:33 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 4, 2020 23:09:33 GMT
He isn't suited to this system at all and it's showing. The way he is being asked to play is very similar to how he was asked to play in the diamond ie. The legs and pivot for the only wide outlet on that side of the pitch. His form was transformed in the 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 last season as he only had the middle of the pitch to think about. Anything more than that and he struggles, and eventually gives up. Exactly. The whole reason he's missed 3 one v one's in 3 games is exactly because he's playing with 2 other midfielders.
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Post by a on Oct 5, 2020 9:35:20 GMT
How about now? Useless again Jesus wept lol Players have bad games, some have a run of bad games. Without clucas we would be playing Crewe this season.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 8, 2020 20:06:53 GMT
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Clucas
Oct 8, 2020 20:41:10 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Oct 8, 2020 20:41:10 GMT
how the hell do they establish these stats? someone, somewhere must be doing this?
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Clucas
Oct 8, 2020 20:42:06 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 8, 2020 20:42:06 GMT
how do the hell do they establish these stats? someone, somewhere must be doing this? Not a clue and I was as shocked as anybody seeing he’s up there!
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 8, 2020 21:01:16 GMT
Were his passes to the opposition counted in those stats as well?
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Clucas
Oct 8, 2020 21:10:35 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 8, 2020 21:10:35 GMT
I might be being a bit thick here but what does PUSB stand for?
Edit. Just worked it out - Play Up Sky Blues? Wtf is that about? Shows why the figures are fucked up the fans are compiling them.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 8, 2020 21:26:52 GMT
I might be being a bit thick here but what does PUSB stand for? Edit. Just worked it out - Play Up Sky Blues? Wtf is that about? Shows why the figures are fucked up the fans are compiling them. Why are the fans compiling them? It’ll just be the hashtag Coventry use.
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Post by bolders on Oct 8, 2020 21:44:57 GMT
I might be being a bit thick here but what does PUSB stand for? Edit. Just worked it out - Play Up Sky Blues? Wtf is that about? Shows why the figures are fucked up the fans are compiling them. Why are the fans compiling them? It’ll just be the hashtag Coventry use. Probably doesn’t use Twitter and know what hashtags are
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Post by spitthedog on Oct 8, 2020 21:46:16 GMT
how do the hell do they establish these stats? someone, somewhere must be doing this? Not a clue and I was as shocked as anybody seeing he’s up there! They are the sort of thing someone can make up because how is anyone going to know the difference?
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Clucas
Oct 8, 2020 22:07:08 GMT
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 8, 2020 22:07:08 GMT
12 key passes from a flat centre mid who's shackled to that position.
Not bad.
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Post by tachyon on Oct 9, 2020 7:52:56 GMT
A key pass is the final pass before a player makes an unsuccessful attempt at goal.
Clucas has made 12 such passes.
Seven are from corners.
Two are from crosses.
Three are from open play.
It's not a stat to be taken very seriously.
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Clucas
Oct 9, 2020 8:21:16 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 9, 2020 8:21:16 GMT
A key pass is the final pass before a player makes an unsuccessful attempt at goal. Clucas has made 12 such passes. Seven are from corners. Two are from crosses. Three are from open play. It's not a stat to be taken very seriously. Why isn't it? It shows what we know, we're profligate in front of goal......
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Post by tachyon on Oct 9, 2020 9:37:01 GMT
A key pass is the final pass before a player makes an unsuccessful attempt at goal. Clucas has made 12 such passes. Seven are from corners. Two are from crosses. Three are from open play. It's not a stat to be taken very seriously. Why isn't it? It shows what we know, we're profligate in front of goal...... WRT Clucas, key passes are contextless. It doesn't tell you how these "key passes" are being created. You get to take corners by jogging to the corner flag, so accuracy, yes, creativity, less so. Nine KPs are from crosses. They are low grade chances, mostly contested headers. You're unlikely to be creating big chances. Warning, xG stuff coming up :-) Clucas' 12 potential assists have a total expected assist value of 0.52 xG, or 0.04 xG per chance created. Low grade stuff. It's odds on he hasn't created a goal this season. As regards Stoke's "profligacy". We've created 4.4 xG so far this season & scored twice. Under-performance, yes. But when information is limited we should be wary of drawing firm conclusions. Two goals from 4.4 xG happens around 13% of the time. No alarm bells needed. Last four games of 2019/20 we scored seven goals + one from a Forest player from 5.6 xG. Over-perormance, yes. Had we turned into a team of Messis, no. Again that short-term hot streak is likely just random noise around our under lying (xG) quality.
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Clucas
Oct 9, 2020 9:50:49 GMT
Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 9, 2020 9:50:49 GMT
He is taking corners and free-kicks. His delivery has become very good from set-pieces that is not in doubt.
Im sure even Clucas himself will admit hes had an awful start to the season. I reckon his passing statistics will be around 50-60% this season, he keeps giving away possession.
He does seem to be a player that starts a season off slowly but then grows into it with a long run of games.
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Clucas
Oct 9, 2020 9:54:00 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 9, 2020 9:54:00 GMT
Why isn't it? It shows what we know, we're profligate in front of goal...... WRT Clucas, key passes are contextless. It doesn't tell you how these "key passes" are being created. You get to take corners by jogging to the corner flag, so accuracy, yes, creativity, less so. Nine KPs are from crosses. They are low grade chances, mostly contested headers. You're unlikely to be creating big chances. Warning, xG stuff coming up :-) Clucas' 12 potential assists have a total expected assist value of 0.52 xG, or 0.04 xG per chance created. Low grade stuff. It's odds on he hasn't created a goal this season. As regards Stoke's "profligacy". We've created 4.4 xG so far this season & scored twice. Under-performance, yes. But when information is limited we should be wary of drawing firm conclusions. Two goals from 4.4 xG happens around 13% of the time. No alarm bells needed. Last four games of 2019/20 we scored seven goals + one from a Forest player from 5.6 xG. Over-perormance, yes. Had we turned into a team of Messis, no. Again that short-term hot streak is likely just random noise around our under lying (xG) quality. In a team that will be relyng on set pieces and crosses I think that's pretty significant tbh.
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Clucas
Oct 9, 2020 10:32:55 GMT
Post by Pirate on Oct 9, 2020 10:32:55 GMT
Would be more interested to see ground covered, tackles, interceptions, pass completion & positional heat map in comparison to other guys in the squad
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Oct 9, 2020 10:43:06 GMT
Why are the fans compiling them? It’ll just be the hashtag Coventry use. Probably doesn’t use Twitter and know what hashtags are Correct.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 9, 2020 11:16:48 GMT
Would be more interested to see ground covered, tackles, interceptions, pass completion & positional heat map in comparison to other guys in the squad According to this - www.whoscored.com/Teams/96/Show/England-StokeInterceptions - 7th in the squad with 0.8 (Souttar top as you'd expect and then Powell!?!?!) Tackles - 7th - 1 per game but only 4 with more than 1 and loads on 1. Pass completion - 10th - 77.6% Danny Batth 3rd
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Clucas
Oct 9, 2020 11:20:48 GMT
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Post by lordb on Oct 9, 2020 11:20:48 GMT
Can go down the rabbit hole with stats
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Post by Pirate on Oct 9, 2020 12:35:53 GMT
Would be more interested to see ground covered, tackles, interceptions, pass completion & positional heat map in comparison to other guys in the squad According to this - www.whoscored.com/Teams/96/Show/England-StokeInterceptions - 7th in the squad with 0.8 (Souttar top as you'd expect and then Powell!?!?!) Tackles - 7th - 1 per game but only 4 with more than 1 and loads on 1. Pass completion - 10th - 77.6% Danny Batth 3rd Cheers bayern Harry is looking excellent isnt he. Thats what i find most frustrating about not having Powell as a no10, he is so far removed from a luxury player
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 9, 2020 12:39:35 GMT
According to this - www.whoscored.com/Teams/96/Show/England-StokeInterceptions - 7th in the squad with 0.8 (Souttar top as you'd expect and then Powell!?!?!) Tackles - 7th - 1 per game but only 4 with more than 1 and loads on 1. Pass completion - 10th - 77.6% Danny Batth 3rd Cheers bayern Harry is looking excellent isnt he. Thats what i find most frustrating about not having Powell as a no10, he is so far removed from a luxury player Definitely x2. Re Powell, I get the criticism about his passing this season and the back end of last tbh and I will join with that but the stuff about him not working, not trying is just plain weird. I wish he was a luxury tbh because then he'd be doing the things I want actually to see from him!
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Post by tachyon on Oct 9, 2020 13:37:03 GMT
In a team that will be relyng on set pieces and crosses I think that's pretty significant tbh. Having the bulk of your KP's from crosses/corners isn't a good look. Three quarters of Clucas' expected assists came from regular play in 2019/20 not corners etc. Not a dig at Clucas, it's just 4 games and he'll most likely start to create more from regular play, just a dig at EFL Stats' clickbait "key pass" nonsense.
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Clucas
Oct 9, 2020 13:42:43 GMT
Post by tachyon on Oct 9, 2020 13:42:43 GMT
Would be more interested to see ground covered, tackles, interceptions, pass completion & positional heat map in comparison to other guys in the squad According to this - www.whoscored.com/Teams/96/Show/England-StokeInterceptions - 7th in the squad with 0.8 (Souttar top as you'd expect and then Powell!?!?!) Tackles - 7th - 1 per game but only 4 with more than 1 and loads on 1. Pass completion - 10th - 77.6% Danny Batth 3rd Pass completion is a function of team role and where you play. Higher up the pitch, generally the lower the pass completion rate. You're making more difficult passes into more dangerous areas. Risk/reward. KDB is amongst Man City's lowest Pass completion %
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Clucas
Oct 11, 2020 0:54:04 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 11, 2020 0:54:04 GMT
According to this - www.whoscored.com/Teams/96/Show/England-StokeInterceptions - 7th in the squad with 0.8 (Souttar top as you'd expect and then Powell!?!?!) Tackles - 7th - 1 per game but only 4 with more than 1 and loads on 1. Pass completion - 10th - 77.6% Danny Batth 3rd Pass completion is a function of team role and where you play. Higher up the pitch, generally the lower the pass completion rate. You're making more difficult passes into more dangerous areas. Risk/reward. KDB is amongst Man City's lowest Pass completion % No shit but Danny Batth can’t pass wind 😂
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Clucas
Oct 17, 2020 16:52:38 GMT
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Post by thehoof on Oct 17, 2020 16:52:38 GMT
Isn’t Mikel the Defensive Midfield player?
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Clucas
Oct 17, 2020 16:54:18 GMT
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Post by femark on Oct 17, 2020 16:54:18 GMT
Reasonably anonymous again today
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Post by cobhamstokey on Oct 17, 2020 16:58:21 GMT
When Allens back he's the one I'd drop. When he's not scoring he doesnt offer enought for me.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 17, 2020 17:30:31 GMT
Got to be looking at dropping him after today?
Not sure if he needs a rest or something but he was absolutely anonymous bar where he tried to control it and it would bounce off his foot.
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Oct 17, 2020 18:47:17 GMT
Awful again today. Been on a long run of poor form and others have got dropped for less.
I would give Thompson a go next game. Clucas needs to wake up and get his shit together
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