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Post by spitthedog on Sept 25, 2020 20:36:52 GMT
2 games off tomorrow, Grimsby say they wont be able to play their next 3 games, they are going to have fixture pile up looking at the schedule.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 25, 2020 20:38:36 GMT
Yes definitely
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 25, 2020 20:45:46 GMT
Just for the sake of balanced argument. No, definitely not.
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Post by lstokie on Sept 25, 2020 20:48:27 GMT
Maybe
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 25, 2020 20:48:42 GMT
Just for the sake of balanced argument. No, definitely not. There we go then! That was a nice conflict-free, amiable and balanced discussion. Thank you guys!! I hope we have set a precedent.
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Post by liam007 on Sept 25, 2020 20:49:32 GMT
Shouldn't have started,can't see anything other than the Premier League finishing.Football without fans is pointless.Orient having to forfiet a potential money spinner against Spurs tells you everything,football does need fans.No way would they ever not play that game in normal circumstances,even if they had to play a youth team side.
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Post by palerider on Sept 25, 2020 20:49:50 GMT
Definitely,maybe
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Sept 25, 2020 20:55:56 GMT
The Premier League will finish. I think the Championship is likely to finish. League One and lower - who knows. We could end up with 5-10 clubs in League One and Two (and maybe a couple in the Championship) going into administration. Some clubs may not be able to fulfil a whole season's fixtures. I can see League One and Two being paused until crowds are allowed back again - whether they'll curtail this season or continue it depends when that happens I suppose.
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Post by Little Gary Patel on Sept 25, 2020 21:02:22 GMT
The Premier League will finish. I think the Championship is likely to finish. League One and lower - who knows. We could end up with 5-10 clubs in League One and Two (and maybe a couple in the Championship) going into administration. Some clubs may not be able to fulfil a whole season's fixtures. I can see League One and Two being paused until crowds are allowed back again - whether they'll curtail this season or continue it depends when that happens I suppose. pretty much my thinking tbh can't see how league 2, in particular, carry on like this The EFL are asking, or going to ask for £250m from the PL to sustain clubs. Hope they say yes, but then no doubt the funds will get abused by Championship clubs working outside of their means, hi Mel
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 21:04:21 GMT
I would think so...am concerned for Eurovision though. pencilled in for May 2021 in Rotterdam which is also a sea port like Grimsby.
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 25, 2020 21:13:08 GMT
"The EFL are asking, or going to ask for £250m from the PL to sustain clubs. . . . "
West Ham have got 2 twattish owners, so I think they should pay double.
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Post by SamB_SCFC on Sept 25, 2020 21:31:55 GMT
Premier League and Championship will. Not sure about Leagues One and Two. One of the reasons I was absolutely terrified about relegation last season even more than usual.
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Post by liathroid on Sept 25, 2020 21:41:06 GMT
The EFL are asking, or going to ask for £250m from the PL to sustain clubs. . . . West Ham have got 2 twattish owners, so I think they should pay double. seen that ,but lets say some of the rich owners say no we dont want it,the rest take it but they have to pay it back ,how does ffp stand
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 25, 2020 21:57:24 GMT
The EFL are asking, or going to ask for £250m from the PL to sustain clubs. . . . West Ham have got 2 twattish owners, so I think they should pay double. Fingers crossed EFL clubs read the small print.
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Post by onefatcopper on Sept 25, 2020 22:01:44 GMT
The season will end, but I honestly don’t think we will end the season with all the clubs that started, and I don’t think that just applies to the football league, with the amount of premier league clubs owned by financial speculators you only need one biggish club to fold and then a domino effect will ripple through the big boys
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Post by scfcno1fan on Sept 25, 2020 22:04:11 GMT
I don’t think so.
Too many players will start contracting it.
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Post by Gods on Sept 25, 2020 22:07:46 GMT
I suppose there are 3 reasons why the season may not finish:
1. Clubs simply run out of money since they have no revenue beyond a lousy TV deal and a few shirt sales (Football League only) 2. Clubs can't take part since they are forced to shield owing to covid hitting their squad per Orient (Applies to all) 3. It dawns on people that with no crowd and no TV deal there is no point, it's a poor product which no one gets to see (Football League only)
I'm sure there is a significant chance the Football League will not finish.
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Post by andystokey on Sept 26, 2020 7:38:45 GMT
Shouldn't have started,can't see anything other than the Premier League finishing.Football without fans is pointless.Orient having to forfiet a potential money spinner against Spurs tells you everything,football does need fans.No way would they ever not play that game in normal circumstances,even if they had to play a youth team side. That Orient thing is outrageous. Do we really think if Tottenham council had told Spurs they couldn't play Orient would have been given a bye? No chance
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Post by zerps on Sept 26, 2020 7:47:22 GMT
Just for the sake of balanced argument. No, definitely not. I disagree with you both
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 26, 2020 7:48:56 GMT
I don’t think so. Too many players will start contracting it. Hopefully some of our players are as bad at passing on viruses as they are at passing footballs to each other. If James McLean adopts a similar approach to passing on Covid as he does to crossing a ball then I’d be more concerned for the farmers of Shropshire than our players.
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Post by zerps on Sept 26, 2020 7:49:10 GMT
I would think so...am concerned for Eurovision though. pencilled in for May 2021 in Rotterdam which is also a sea port like Grimsby. I know a couple of lovely “cafes” in Rotterdam
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Post by bridgnorthstokie on Sept 26, 2020 7:51:55 GMT
I would hope the league governing body have put some sort of rules in place in case the season can't finish. Or we will Have the same chaos next summer ofsqueezing games in or should we play should we not. Who goes up or down.
I would of thought the league a would of learnt and put some rule in place in case of national crisis that if less than 50% of games are played the season is void but if over 50% games are played by majority of teams then whatever the league positions are at that point is final. I doubt it though and they will probably be scratching their heads not knowing what to do.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 26, 2020 8:01:17 GMT
Shouldn't have started,can't see anything other than the Premier League finishing.Football without fans is pointless.Orient having to forfiet a potential money spinner against Spurs tells you everything,football does need fans.No way would they ever not play that game in normal circumstances,even if they had to play a youth team side. I appreciate that professional football without fans is a much more soulless activity - the fans really are an integral part of the professional game. But you are suggesting that professional players are laid off for maybe up to a year. And most of them WOULD be laid off, because their clubs would not have the money to pay them. That idea MIGHT work if all parts of the world resumed football at the same time. But it wouldn't happen like that. Some parts of the world would resume playing months before others and what would stop players walking out of their contracts (on the grounds that they were not being paid the money stipulated in those contracts) and signing for clubs in those countries which were playing and admitting spectators. So clubs in those countries which started football latest would have few decent players available to sign. Hopefully, the Premier League, the EFL and the government (and indeed sacrifices by the players at all levels of the pyramid) will come to some sort of funding package to enable the game to survive until the pandemic has subsided (possibly due to a successful vaccine?) to the point where some sort of normality can return.
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Post by shooters on Sept 26, 2020 8:15:22 GMT
2 games off tomorrow, Grimsby say they wont be able to play their next 3 games, they are going to have fixture pile up looking at the schedule. Yes could be one very long season though and require adaptation throughout the year. Some fans should definitely be allowed back even if in the low hundreds and under 20 to start with to monitor them. Might as well incorporate winter break to have a lockdown at Xmas. No reason not to play evening matches in june/july summer, with low crowds, instead of having no football when the virus was at its lowest. Drop international football - why risk it spurs v god knows the other night., England v Iceland crap. Bring the game home and effectively build it up again
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Post by bucknall67 on Sept 26, 2020 8:27:34 GMT
Just for the sake of balanced argument. No, definitely not. I disagree with you both I disagree with all 3 of you.
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Post by mattador78 on Sept 26, 2020 8:28:35 GMT
My biggest gripe with the season is the cry’s that’s more tests are needed for the general public but football clubs in general are burning through hundreds if not into a thousand tests for the bigger clubs per week ( potentially premier league teams are testing huge amounts of backroom staff and reserve/youth teams multiple times per week as well
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Post by thehoof on Sept 26, 2020 8:31:46 GMT
I don’t think we will be promoted or relegated, so not really bothered.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 26, 2020 8:35:45 GMT
2 games off tomorrow, Grimsby say they wont be able to play their next 3 games, they are going to have fixture pile up looking at the schedule. Yes could be one very long season though and require adaptation throughout the year. Some fans should definitely be allowed back even if in the low hundreds and under 20 to start with to monitor them. Might as well incorporate winter break to have a lockdown at Xmas. No reason not to play evening matches in june/july summer, with low crowds, instead of having no football when the virus was at its lowest. Drop international football - why risk it spurs v god knows the other night., England v Iceland crap. Bring the game home and effectively build it up again I agree. The government is allowing (up to 500?) fans back to clubs near the bottom of the pyramid. I can't see why a similar scheme could not be done at league grounds. Would there be any difference (in terms of risk) in say, Kendal, having 500 fans in their ground and Stoke having 2,000 to 3,000 fans in the bet365? The numbers could/should be increased as time passes without spikes in infection. Obviously there would have to be tracing forms completed for each fan admitted - and prospects would be a lot better if the government managed to get on top of their test and trace system - especially in terms of being able to test locally everyone with symptoms and deliver all the results in 24 hours.
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Post by teagles05 on Sept 26, 2020 9:01:34 GMT
I disagree with all 3 of you. And I disagree with the lot of you
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Post by somersetstokie on Sept 26, 2020 9:15:54 GMT
I disagree with all 3 of you. And I disagree with the lot of you I now disagree with myself.
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