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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 8:47:43 GMT
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Post by bolders on Oct 3, 2020 8:47:43 GMT
His contract is up at the end of this season. Think we can convince him to sign an extension?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 3, 2020 9:13:06 GMT
His contract is up at the end of this season. Think we can convince him to sign an extension? Will we offer him one? We should, not necessarily convinced we will.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Oct 3, 2020 9:15:34 GMT
Powell in an attacking position like on Thursday is a real threat but that performance highlighted why he didn't cut it in the Premier League. His decision making, like Campbell on the night, is far too erratic and I've actually heard MON mention as a team we generally make poor in game decisions. It's a real frustration to watch.. I'd want him to stay though.
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 9:47:04 GMT
Post by bolders on Oct 3, 2020 9:47:04 GMT
His contract is up at the end of this season. Think we can convince him to sign an extension? Will we offer him one? We should, not necessarily convinced we will. See if we can get him for 1 more year but also be looking for someone to take his place after he is gone
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Post by werrington on Oct 3, 2020 9:55:12 GMT
Have we really got people knocking Nick Powell?...Jesus wept
We should be building a team around him not replacing him
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 3, 2020 10:01:57 GMT
Have we really got people knocking Nick Powell?...Jesus wept We should be building a team around him not replacing him We have Wez. They’re the same people who act like you’ve farted in church if you suggest maybe the manager might open things up a bit.
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 10:53:25 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Oct 3, 2020 10:53:25 GMT
Will we offer him one? We should, not necessarily convinced we will. See if we can get him for 1 more year but also be looking for someone to take his place after he is gone We have one - Tashan Oakley Booth. If he keeps improving he will be a much better player. Whilst I thought Powell had his best game this season on Thursday he is so selfish. He had occasions when he had the opportunity to pass wide to Tymon or thread the ball into the box and just took it further himself and either shot hopelessly or ended up going backwards. Needs to be more of a team player to have a team built around him. Probably our most talented player but so frustrating to watch.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 3, 2020 10:55:55 GMT
See if we can get him for 1 more year but also be looking for someone to take his place after he is gone We have one - Tashan Oakley Booth. If he keeps improving he will be a much better player. Whilst I thought Powell had his best game this season on Thursday he is so selfish. He had occasions when he had the opportunity to pass wide to Tymon or thread the ball into the box and just took it further himself and either shot hopelessly or ended up going backwards. Needs to be more of a team player to have a team built around him. Probably our most talented player but so frustrating to watch. Oakley Booth is promising but he has a long way to go before he’s close to Powell’s level, let alone being much better than him.
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Post by nottsover60 on Oct 3, 2020 11:10:14 GMT
We have one - Tashan Oakley Booth. If he keeps improving he will be a much better player. Whilst I thought Powell had his best game this season on Thursday he is so selfish. He had occasions when he had the opportunity to pass wide to Tymon or thread the ball into the box and just took it further himself and either shot hopelessly or ended up going backwards. Needs to be more of a team player to have a team built around him. Probably our most talented player but so frustrating to watch. Oakley Booth is promising but he has a long way to go before he’s close to Powell’s level, let alone being much better than him. I beg to differ. Oakley Booth has shown far better decision making for the team rather than himself so far and we have none of the amateur dramatics when he thinks he's been fouled. Powell needs to learn (and should already have done) that rolling around on the floor isn't going to convince a referee to give a free kick if he hasn't already. I get so annoyed when he doesn't get up and help the team on those occasions. And yes I think he gets a lot of rough treatment and is not properly protected by referees but I also think that is brought on himself because of his reputation. I always think it telling how concerned team mates are when a player is down. Generally Stoke players ignore him and Clucas. There is no doubt he has a better shot than TOB but that is sometimes offset by his trying to score from stupid places instead of playing team mates in. I do think TOB will get better with more self belief and age is on his side. I love Powell when he is playing well but a frustrated Powell is not an asset and I think he makes his mind up that things aren't going his way early in a match.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 3, 2020 11:19:02 GMT
Oakley Booth is promising but he has a long way to go before he’s close to Powell’s level, let alone being much better than him. I beg to differ. Oakley Booth has shown far better decision making for the team rather than himself so far and we have none of the amateur dramatics when he thinks he's been fouled. Powell needs to learn (and should already have done) that rolling around on the floor isn't going to convince a referee to give a free kick if he hasn't already. I get so annoyed when he doesn't get up and help the team on those occasions. And yes I think he gets a lot of rough treatment and is not properly protected by referees but I also think that is brought on himself because of his reputation. I always think it telling how concerned team mates are when a player is down. Generally Stoke players ignore him and Clucas. There is no doubt he has a better shot than TOB but that is sometimes offset by his trying to score from stupid places instead of playing team mates in. I do think TOB will get better with more self belief and age is on his side. I love Powell when he is playing well but a frustrated Powell is not an asset and I think he makes his mind up that things aren't going his way early in a match. The rolling around is neither here nor there when it comes to his actual ability. He takes a kicking because he causes so many problems for defenders (and is a gobby wind up merchant with it). Yeah he’s selfish sometimes and makes the wrong decision sometimes. Creative players try things that don’t come off. He’s also comfortably our most creative player and makes chances out of nowhere. Generally, there’s night and day between us with him playing at no 10 and us when he’s been dropped or marginalised. The single best and most important thing O’Neill did when he arrived was find a way of incorporating him. Had he not done that, it would’ve been a much, much closer call than it was.
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Post by werrington on Oct 3, 2020 11:24:04 GMT
What is it with Stoke fans and creative footballers?
For some reason they just can’t accept them
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Post by march4 on Oct 3, 2020 11:28:42 GMT
Powell has been a major disappointment for me.
Where is the player who battered Williams and tormented us when he was at Wigan? I haven’t seen him once at Stoke.
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 11:30:58 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Oct 3, 2020 11:30:58 GMT
What is it with Stoke fans and creative footballers? For some reason they just can’t accept them I love creative players. Arnie was my favourite and as I said Powell is when he's playing well. I like TOB because he sees passes our other players don't and looks to go forward. I also like him because if nothing's on he retains possession by going back if he has to.
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Post by werrington on Oct 3, 2020 11:34:51 GMT
What is it with Stoke fans and creative footballers? For some reason they just can’t accept them I love creative players. Arnie was my favourite and as I said Powell is when he's playing well. I like TOB because he sees passes our other players don't and looks to go forward. I also like him because if nothing's on he retains possession by going back if he has to. Powell is without a shadow of a doubt our most creative player mate
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 11:34:52 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Oct 3, 2020 11:34:52 GMT
I beg to differ. Oakley Booth has shown far better decision making for the team rather than himself so far and we have none of the amateur dramatics when he thinks he's been fouled. Powell needs to learn (and should already have done) that rolling around on the floor isn't going to convince a referee to give a free kick if he hasn't already. I get so annoyed when he doesn't get up and help the team on those occasions. And yes I think he gets a lot of rough treatment and is not properly protected by referees but I also think that is brought on himself because of his reputation. I always think it telling how concerned team mates are when a player is down. Generally Stoke players ignore him and Clucas. There is no doubt he has a better shot than TOB but that is sometimes offset by his trying to score from stupid places instead of playing team mates in. I do think TOB will get better with more self belief and age is on his side. I love Powell when he is playing well but a frustrated Powell is not an asset and I think he makes his mind up that things aren't going his way early in a match. The rolling around is neither here nor there when it comes to his actual ability. He takes a kicking because he causes so many problems for defenders (and is a gobby wind up merchant with it). Yeah he’s selfish sometimes and makes the wrong decision sometimes. Creative players try things that don’t come off. He’s also comfortably our most creative player and makes chances out of nowhere. Generally, there’s night and day between us with him playing at no 10 and us when he’s been dropped or marginalised. The single best and most important thing O’Neill did when he arrived was find a way of incorporating him. Had he not done that, it would’ve been a much, much closer call than it was. I didn't notice night and day last Saturday or in the cup matches we've played without him this season. Tymon and TOB can be just as creative and are not selfish. Powell is one of my favourites but I can see his faults as listed above and I don't think he has played well this season. The rolling around is here or there by the way when no foul has been given and the opposition are breaking forward.
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 11:36:35 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 11:36:35 GMT
We have one - Tashan Oakley Booth. If he keeps improving he will be a much better player. Whilst I thought Powell had his best game this season on Thursday he is so selfish. He had occasions when he had the opportunity to pass wide to Tymon or thread the ball into the box and just took it further himself and either shot hopelessly or ended up going backwards. Needs to be more of a team player to have a team built around him. Probably our most talented player but so frustrating to watch. Oakley Booth is promising but he has a long way to go before he’s close to Powell’s level, let alone being much better than him. Him breathing down Powell's neck can only be good going forward though, hopefully he'll step up another level.....
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 11:39:45 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Oct 3, 2020 11:39:45 GMT
I love creative players. Arnie was my favourite and as I said Powell is when he's playing well. I like TOB because he sees passes our other players don't and looks to go forward. I also like him because if nothing's on he retains possession by going back if he has to. Powell is without a shadow of a doubt our most creative player mate When did I say he wasn't? He hasn't been this season yet though. Very frustrating as I think he is so important in creating chances for us and one of the reasons why we haven't created much yet this season. I was saying I think TOB can be his replacement without us needing to spend lots of money if Powell goes at the end of the season which is the post I was originally replying to.
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 11:40:38 GMT
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Post by sheikhmomo on Oct 3, 2020 11:40:38 GMT
I think the more we see of the wider squad there are very few automatic starters but Powell would be the first on my team sheet and every subsequent pick would be with a view to getting the best out of him.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 3, 2020 11:44:23 GMT
The rolling around is neither here nor there when it comes to his actual ability. He takes a kicking because he causes so many problems for defenders (and is a gobby wind up merchant with it). Yeah he’s selfish sometimes and makes the wrong decision sometimes. Creative players try things that don’t come off. He’s also comfortably our most creative player and makes chances out of nowhere. Generally, there’s night and day between us with him playing at no 10 and us when he’s been dropped or marginalised. The single best and most important thing O’Neill did when he arrived was find a way of incorporating him. Had he not done that, it would’ve been a much, much closer call than it was. I didn't notice night and day last Saturday or in the cup matches we've played without him this season. Tymon and TOB can be just as creative and are not selfish. Powell is one of my favourites but I can see his faults as listed above and I don't think he has played well this season. The rolling around is here or there by the way when no foul has been given and the opposition are breaking forward. You’re overstating the rolling around, the scenario you’re describing just doesn’t happen enough to be a factor, certainly not one that cancels out all the good he does. Scraping a 1-0 win against 10 men in a game when the goalkeeper was man of the match doesn’t sound like it’s on a par with stuffing teams for three, four and five, but what do I know?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 3, 2020 11:44:46 GMT
Oakley Booth is promising but he has a long way to go before he’s close to Powell’s level, let alone being much better than him. Him breathing down Powell's neck can only be good going forward though, hopefully he'll step up another level..... I like the lad, I think in time he’ll be an excellent player for us.
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 3, 2020 12:00:24 GMT
Powell should be our Arnie equivalent in the Championship. He's both skilful and powerful. As a number 10 there won't be many better in this league so we should be getting more out of him.
For the mentally challenged, I don't think he's as good as Arnie or on the same level...
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 13:41:24 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Oct 3, 2020 13:41:24 GMT
I didn't notice night and day last Saturday or in the cup matches we've played without him this season. Tymon and TOB can be just as creative and are not selfish. Powell is one of my favourites but I can see his faults as listed above and I don't think he has played well this season. The rolling around is here or there by the way when no foul has been given and the opposition are breaking forward. You’re overstating the rolling around, the scenario you’re describing just doesn’t happen enough to be a factor, certainly not one that cancels out all the good he does. Scraping a 1-0 win against 10 men in a game when the goalkeeper was man of the match doesn’t sound like it’s on a par with stuffing teams for three, four and five, but what do I know? When have we done that this season? I like Powell. If pushed to name a favourite it would be him but he is not playing well this season and then his faults start to rankle. I am not advocating TOB ahead of Powell but was responding to someone who said we would need to find a replacement if Powell doesn't extend his contract beyond the end of the season. Some people on here are just looking for an argument. I don't disagree with you about Powell except that if he was doing his rolling around against us we wouldn't like it. There is no doubt he dives but so did Arnie.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Oct 3, 2020 13:51:06 GMT
I think he's the most kicked player in the league, even v Villa they seemed to target him. The ref rarely gave him any protection. Gouranga.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 3, 2020 13:51:15 GMT
You’re overstating the rolling around, the scenario you’re describing just doesn’t happen enough to be a factor, certainly not one that cancels out all the good he does. Scraping a 1-0 win against 10 men in a game when the goalkeeper was man of the match doesn’t sound like it’s on a par with stuffing teams for three, four and five, but what do I know? When have we done that this season? I like Powell. If pushed to name a favourite it would be him but he is not playing well this season and then his faults start to rankle. I am not advocating TOB ahead of Powell but was responding to someone who said we would need to find a replacement if Powell doesn't extend his contract beyond the end of the season. Some people on here are just looking for an argument. I don't disagree with you about Powell except that if he was doing his rolling around against us we wouldn't like it. There is no doubt he dives but so did Arnie. That’s my point though, we haven’t done that this season because we’ve been playing a negative system and Powell has been marginalised in it.
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 14:16:22 GMT
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Post by J-Roar on Oct 3, 2020 14:16:22 GMT
Have we really got people knocking Nick Powell?...Jesus wept We should be building a team around him not replacing him There's a hardcore of supporters who clearly don't like football. They must have hated the BMX era.
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 14:19:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 14:19:05 GMT
Powell should be our Arnie equivalent in the Championship. He's both skilful and powerful. As a number 10 there won't be many better in this league so we should be getting more out of him. For the mentally challenged, I don't think he's as good as Arnie or on the same level... Cut from the same cloth Pugs. Players like that just need to be picked and sent out to play with little or no instructions.
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 14:25:29 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Oct 3, 2020 14:25:29 GMT
I really think TOB has had a promising start to this season! Powell is without doubt both talented and creative, but he annoys me at times when a simple pass would have been the best solution and he makes a mess out of it!
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 14:46:46 GMT
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Post by march4 on Oct 3, 2020 14:46:46 GMT
Any half decent offer for Powell and I would let him go.
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Powell
Oct 3, 2020 14:59:37 GMT
Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 14:59:37 GMT
Powell in an attacking position like on Thursday is a real threat but that performance highlighted why he didn't cut it in the Premier League. His decision making, like Campbell on the night, is far too erratic and I've actually heard MON mention as a team we generally make poor in game decisions. It's a real frustration to watch.. I'd want him to stay though. He might have had other people in mind, such as certain central defensive players that have cost us goals and points.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2020 17:19:32 GMT
Any half decent offer for Powell and I would let him go. Put your rod away, nobody's biting
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