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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 18, 2020 7:07:13 GMT
We still have a too big squad for MON's liking and for FFP, but who will we manage to get rid of before the window closes?
Butland, clearly a player we would like to sell to get some kind of fee. Think we'll be lucky to get the £3.5M we gave for him back now.
Edwards, I think MON would like to see him gone. If a loan or a permanent transfer is preferred here I simply don't know.
Lindsay, clearly a player we don't need any more, guess he will be sold before the window shuts.
Gregory, the same as Lindsay.
Ince, despite a good game versus Leeds in our friendly he seems way down the pecking order right now. Time to seek new pastures? Guess it will be a loan though?
Badou, it's gone awfully quiet, but we need to get rid!
Wimmer, lucky if somebody is willing to pay some of his wages as things stand!
Bauer, I think he is decent enough to get a club somewhere, but I can't see us getting a transfer fee any longer.
Indi, despite wanting to go last window I think he is a player MON wants to keep. Has done well recently too.
Shawcross, will he ever play a game at the highest level for Stoke again? If not what is the solution here?
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2020 7:19:50 GMT
We still have a too big squad for MON's liking and for FFP, but who will we manage to get rid of before the window closes? Butland, clearly a player we would like to sell to get some kind of fee. Think we'll be lucky to get the £3.5M we gave for him back now. Edwards, I think MON would like to see him gone. If a loan or a permanent transfer is preferred here I simply don't know. Lindsay, clearly a player we don't need any more, guess he will be sold before the window shuts. Gregory, the same as Lindsay. Ince, despite a good game versus Leeds in our friendly he seems way down the pecking order right now. Time to seek new pastures? Guess it will be a loan though? Badou, it's gone awfully quiet, but we need to get rid! Wimmer, lucky if somebody is willing to pay some of his wages as things stand! Bauer, I think he is decent enough to get a club somewhere, but I can't see us getting a transfer fee any longer. Indi, despite wanting to go last window I think he is a player MON wants to keep. Has done well recently too. Shawcross, will he ever play a game at the highest level for Stoke again? If not what is the solution here? Gregory gets games He might go but with Afobe out the door he's a good chance of staying Shawcross will play soon enough Butland...I don't think Stoke will take a fee that low, they would just keep him on the bench and let him get for nothing next summer. |
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 18, 2020 7:22:31 GMT
We still have a too big squad for MON's liking and for FFP, but who will we manage to get rid of before the window closes? Butland, clearly a player we would like to sell to get some kind of fee. Think we'll be lucky to get the £3.5M we gave for him back now. Edwards, I think MON would like to see him gone. If a loan or a permanent transfer is preferred here I simply don't know. Lindsay, clearly a player we don't need any more, guess he will be sold before the window shuts. Gregory, the same as Lindsay. Ince, despite a good game versus Leeds in our friendly he seems way down the pecking order right now. Time to seek new pastures? Guess it will be a loan though? Badou, it's gone awfully quiet, but we need to get rid! Wimmer, lucky if somebody is willing to pay some of his wages as things stand! Bauer, I think he is decent enough to get a club somewhere, but I can't see us getting a transfer fee any longer. Indi, despite wanting to go last window I think he is a player MON wants to keep. Has done well recently too. Shawcross, will he ever play a game at the highest level for Stoke again? If not what is the solution here? Gregory gets games He might go but with Afobe out the door he's a good chance of staying Shawcross will play soon enough Butland...I don't think Stoke will take a fee that low, they would just keep him on the bench and let him get for nothing next summer. £3.5 would be very good if you think of FFP, and I guess his wages are high as well, escpecially for a player not even chosen for the subs bench right now.  |
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2020 7:32:17 GMT
Gregory gets games He might go but with Afobe out the door he's a good chance of staying Shawcross will play soon enough Butland...I don't think Stoke will take a fee that low, they would just keep him on the bench and let him get for nothing next summer. £3.5 would be very good if you think of FFP, and I guess his wages are high as well, escpecially for a player not even chosen for the subs bench right now. If it was up to me would sell him for that,I just think Stoke won't |
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Post by datguy on Sept 18, 2020 7:51:47 GMT
£3.5 would be very good if you think of FFP, and I guess his wages are high as well, escpecially for a player not even chosen for the subs bench right now. If it was up to me would sell him for that,I just think Stoke won't Why don’t you think we’ll sell for that though? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 18, 2020 7:53:37 GMT
If a club that could satisfy Butland's sporting and financial demands offered £3m, I think we'd have to sell, wouldn't we?
The alternative is a frustrated Butland on our bench all season earning £1.5m for doing nothing - then toddling off on a Bosman to God knows where
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 18, 2020 7:54:06 GMT
Apart from the obvious bomb squad I think we'll make use of everyone bar Lindsey and maybe Ince once Verlinden is back.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 18, 2020 9:05:36 GMT
£3.5 would be very good if you think of FFP, and I guess his wages are high as well, escpecially for a player not even chosen for the subs bench right now. If it was up to me would sell him for that,I just think Stoke won't Can they really afford not to? |
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2020 10:27:37 GMT
If it was up to me would sell him for that,I just think Stoke won't Why don’t you think we’ll sell for that though? Just a guess based on the comments made by the club and the £6 to £8m price touted |
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Post by lordb on Sept 18, 2020 10:30:28 GMT
If a club that could satisfy Butland's sporting and financial demands offered £3m, I think we'd have to sell, wouldn't we? The alternative is a frustrated Butland on our bench all season earning £1.5m for doing nothing - then toddling off on a Bosman to God knows where But then we would have to pay probably £3m to buy a keeper and pay him £20k+ Unless they can find one cheaper or loan one I think the club view (& this guesswork) will just let Butland run his contract I don't think we will go with Blondey as number two keeper just yet |
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Post by smiler_andy on Sept 18, 2020 10:39:10 GMT
I expect certain players to move on probably loan deals.
The main difference between previous seasons is the shortened season time wise and the amount of mid week games we could be playing.
Apart from international breaks between now and Christmas we will be playing nearly every 4 days or so. So don't expect to see the same side every game. Players will have to be managed otherwise our injury list will become a lot bigger than usual.
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 18, 2020 10:50:11 GMT
If a club that could satisfy Butland's sporting and financial demands offered £3m, I think we'd have to sell, wouldn't we? The alternative is a frustrated Butland on our bench all season earning £1.5m for doing nothing - then toddling off on a Bosman to God knows where But then we would have to pay probably £3m to buy a keeper and pay him £20k+ Unless they can find one cheaper or loan one I think the club view (& this guesswork) will just let Butland run his contract I don't think we will go with Blondey as number two keeper just yet Maybe the plan would be to go for a cheaper type as experienced back-up? Suppose it'd depend if were targeting a No.1 or a No.2? That'd be a tricky choice. Wouldn't like to tell Davies he was going to be benched for a loanee like Angus Gunn for example? www.transfermarkt.co.uk/spieler/vertragslosespieler/statistik/1/plus//galerie/0?ausrichtung=alle&spielerposition_id=1&land_id=alle&altersklasse=&wettbewerb_id=alle&seit=alle&yt0=ShowNot much stands out on the free agent list. |
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 18, 2020 10:56:23 GMT
£3.5 would be very good if you think of FFP, and I guess his wages are high as well, escpecially for a player not even chosen for the subs bench right now. If it was up to me would sell him for that,I just think Stoke won't Really we sold Pieters for £1m |
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Post by coldtuesdaynight on Sept 18, 2020 23:28:30 GMT
We still have a too big squad for MON's liking and for FFP, but who will we manage to get rid of before the window closes? Butland, clearly a player we would like to sell to get some kind of fee. Think we'll be lucky to get the £3.5M we gave for him back now. Edwards, I think MON would like to see him gone. If a loan or a permanent transfer is preferred here I simply don't know. Lindsay, clearly a player we don't need any more, guess he will be sold before the window shuts. Gregory, the same as Lindsay. Ince, despite a good game versus Leeds in our friendly he seems way down the pecking order right now. Time to seek new pastures? Guess it will be a loan though? Badou, it's gone awfully quiet, but we need to get rid! Wimmer, lucky if somebody is willing to pay some of his wages as things stand! Bauer, I think he is decent enough to get a club somewhere, but I can't see us getting a transfer fee any longer. Indi, despite wanting to go last window I think he is a player MON wants to keep. Has done well recently too. Shawcross, will he ever play a game at the highest level for Stoke again? If not what is the solution here? My guesses from the above would be: Butland and Lindsay out for some kind of small fee. One out of necessity and the other due to the fact the manager seems to rate at least 6 other players higher than him in the same position. Edwards, Badou, Wimmer and Bauer all out on loan. Edwards probably to a team likely to struggle in the Championship (as much as MON seems frustrated with him I doubt the club - and probably even MON - are willing to completely give up on him just yet) and the other 3 to whatever European club their agent can sweet talk into paying their client a couple of million for the season. Think Edwards will get a 2nd chance when he comes back next summer, and the club's accountants will spray each other with champagne when the other 3 leave for good next summer (please tell me their contracts are up by then  ). Would guess Gregory and Ince will stay... Think Gregory because we need someone who can sit on the bench when one or two of the other attacking players gets injured/suspended without whinging about it all season. He seems to be willing to put up with that and I doubt his wage is astronomical. Ince solely because the only people who would both want and be able to afford his wages are likely to be other clubs with aspirations of a top 6 finish in this league. Given we finally look like a team where that is a realistic aim (or least not a pipe dream), then I doubt we'll want to help out our rivals - FFP be damned. I imagine his agent will try and tempt him to some random team abroad where he can get a nearly tax free salary, but doubt he needs the money enough to give up his nice easy life in what I can only assume is a massive Cheshire mansion. You'd like to think the signing of Brown would motivate him to get a move somewhere else where he can be first choice in what should be his peak years, but I doubt that he's that bothered personally! |
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Post by skip on Sept 18, 2020 23:39:37 GMT
Apart from the obvious bomb squad I think we'll make use of everyone bar Lindsey and maybe Ince once Verlinden is back. How many of the bomb squad are still on the books? |
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Post by northernstokie on Sept 19, 2020 1:16:36 GMT
Is wimmer still on the books. I actually thought he had gone
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 19, 2020 8:52:36 GMT
Apart from the obvious bomb squad I think we'll make use of everyone bar Lindsey and maybe Ince once Verlinden is back. How many of the bomb squad are still on the books? Wimmer, Bauer and NDaiye |
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