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Post by werrington on Jan 1, 2021 9:50:57 GMT
All permanent contracts run until June 30th
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 1, 2021 10:23:28 GMT
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Post by xchpotter on Jan 1, 2021 10:28:15 GMT
The article was written by Scholes; he would be well happy with half of that but is trying out this new fangled thing called “negotiation”.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 1, 2021 10:59:23 GMT
After 16 games for us thats a reasonable valuation not that I would have any interest in selling him for that fee but at a similar age and experience and with arguably a better pedigree Ryan cost £1m, the challenge for Stoke will be to keep Harry for that long or at least until any transfer fee makes a decent dent in our ffp problems.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 1, 2021 11:03:01 GMT
I wouldn't sell Souttar for £12M! He will be sold at a point if we don't go up this or next season, but that will be for £15M+ I believe.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 1, 2021 11:04:18 GMT
After 16 games for us thats a reasonable valuation not that I would have any interest in selling him for that fee but at a similar age and experience and with arguably a better pedigree Ryan cost £1m, the challenge for Stoke will be to keep Harry for that long or at least until any transfer fee makes a decent dent in our ffp problems. Yeah he's worth £2M but you would hope we would get at least a bit of the £6-8M potential on top of that wouldn't you. Hopefully a moot point and he signs a four year deal.
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Post by nonameface on Jan 1, 2021 11:05:10 GMT
Big time. Not only his ability, but the speed he's improving at we'd be mugs to sell for this kind of money unless FFP dictated it.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 1, 2021 11:13:24 GMT
After 16 games for us thats a reasonable valuation not that I would have any interest in selling him for that fee but at a similar age and experience and with arguably a better pedigree Ryan cost £1m, the challenge for Stoke will be to keep Harry for that long or at least until any transfer fee makes a decent dent in our ffp problems. Yeah he's worth £2M but you would hope we would get at least a bit of the £6-8M potential on top of that wouldn't you. Hopefully a moot point and he signs a four year deal. Assuming we don't scrape up in the play offs this season, I think only the promoted clubs would be sniffing around and they will have to pay premiums to get players, I think unlike Collins and Bursik he is a player the top 10 clubs wont look at too much until they have seen him in the premier league so like Hull with Maguire we need to make sure we have sell ons in any transfer fee should we sell but like you I hope thats not a problem if he signs a new contract.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 1, 2021 16:11:37 GMT
After 16 games for us thats a reasonable valuation not that I would have any interest in selling him for that fee but at a similar age and experience and with arguably a better pedigree Ryan cost £1m, the challenge for Stoke will be to keep Harry for that long or at least until any transfer fee makes a decent dent in our ffp problems. Nah. I wouldn’t expect to get someone who played to his level in league one for much short of that. He’s at least 3-5m now and the potential to be much more. It was obvious in pre season that he was the most in form CB at the club and I’m just pleased that he got in the team in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2021 10:33:26 GMT
After 16 games for us thats a reasonable valuation not that I would have any interest in selling him for that fee but at a similar age and experience and with arguably a better pedigree Ryan cost £1m, the challenge for Stoke will be to keep Harry for that long or at least until any transfer fee makes a decent dent in our ffp problems. The most recent similar example has got to be Matt Clarke. He went for I reckon £5m plus. Had played more games but all in a division below. At 22, under contract and given some of his performances this season £5m is the minimum.
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Post by medwaypotter on Jan 2, 2021 10:42:58 GMT
After 16 games for us thats a reasonable valuation not that I would have any interest in selling him for that fee but at a similar age and experience and with arguably a better pedigree Ryan cost £1m, the challenge for Stoke will be to keep Harry for that long or at least until any transfer fee makes a decent dent in our ffp problems.
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 2, 2021 18:21:43 GMT
After 16 games for us thats a reasonable valuation not that I would have any interest in selling him for that fee but at a similar age and experience and with arguably a better pedigree Ryan cost £1m, the challenge for Stoke will be to keep Harry for that long or at least until any transfer fee makes a decent dent in our ffp problems. The most recent similar example has got to be Matt Clarke. He went for I reckon £5m plus. Had played more games but all in a division below. At 22, under contract and given some of his performances this season £5m is the minimum. Clarke had played 150+ games and from memory didnt portsmouth benefit from a bit of an auction as we were interested as well as Brighton. Lindsay is also comparable fee was £1.5m. £2m is within the ballpark currently but there is no way we should be looking to sell him at all.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jan 10, 2021 15:28:44 GMT
That is a break through performance, absolutely flawless and dominant all the way through. You can't justify not giving him a run in the first team after that.He has to play
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 10, 2021 15:32:25 GMT
Thought he played really well yesterday.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 10, 2021 16:35:40 GMT
After 16 games for us thats a reasonable valuation not that I would have any interest in selling him for that fee but at a similar age and experience and with arguably a better pedigree Ryan cost £1m, the challenge for Stoke will be to keep Harry for that long or at least until any transfer fee makes a decent dent in our ffp problems. The most recent similar example has got to be Matt Clarke. He went for I reckon £5m plus. Had played more games but all in a division below. At 22, under contract and given some of his performances this season £5m is the minimum. Weren't we interested in him once upon a time?
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Post by werrington on Jan 10, 2021 16:50:26 GMT
The most recent similar example has got to be Matt Clarke. He went for I reckon £5m plus. Had played more games but all in a division below. At 22, under contract and given some of his performances this season £5m is the minimum. Weren't we interested in him once upon a time? Yeah but he chose Brighton mate
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Post by robwahlmann on Jan 10, 2021 16:59:17 GMT
Weren't we interested in him once upon a time? Yeah but he chose Brighton mate ...and after found not good enough there spent most of the time on loan at Derby.
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Post by werrington on Jan 10, 2021 17:35:37 GMT
Yeah but he chose Brighton mate ...and after found not good enough there spent most of the time on loan at Derby. He signed for derby on loan immediately after signing for Brighton He never had a training session with them
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 10, 2021 18:12:02 GMT
Thought he played really well yesterday. He played well apart from his distribution, which is ambitious to say the least.
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Post by baystokie on Jan 10, 2021 18:21:43 GMT
Thought he played really well yesterday. He played well apart from his distribution, which is ambitious to say the least. Nice to see we have a 22 year old WITH ambition
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Jan 10, 2021 18:23:28 GMT
I like Souttar and think he could well become our new Shawcross maybe even better, with both he and Collins we have a very good central pair, both have an error or 2 in them yet but I'm sure they will only improve, not sure about Collins at RB though. Gouranga.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 10, 2021 18:31:28 GMT
Weren't we interested in him once upon a time? Yeah but he chose Brighton mate Does he play? He must be shite if he doesn't given that Dan Burn seems to be a regular. Edit - just seen he's on loan at derby. Apologies
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Post by gingerninja on Jan 10, 2021 18:33:43 GMT
I would rather Collins at right back than Tommy Smith..any day of the week.
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Post by Squeekster on Jan 10, 2021 21:12:17 GMT
Thought he played really well yesterday. He played well apart from his distribution, which is ambitious to say the least. Which normally is excellent, he'll be an excellent player!
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Post by pez75 on Jan 11, 2021 10:34:19 GMT
Thought he played really well yesterday. He played well apart from his distribution, which is ambitious to say the least. His distribution is generally excellent. CH's in this era need to be comfortable on the ball and him and Collins are cool as cucumbers in that dept. I would encourage it 100% even though there will be mistakes made along the way. Compare him to Batth who every time he winds up a long ball you just know its going straight to the opposition...
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Post by lstokie on Jan 11, 2021 12:21:05 GMT
Thought he played really well yesterday. He played well apart from his distribution, which is ambitious to say the least. What's this weird thing you've got going on that with Souttar and his distribution... is it one of those "If you say it enough times its true" things or what? Most other people seem to agree that his distribution is generally good.
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Post by redstriper on Jan 11, 2021 12:40:39 GMT
he's had a few issues where a ball bouncing at an awkward thigh high height has given him problems, but that aside he has been superb, I love the way he looks to keep possession and use the ball profitably. As have Collins, and Bursik, so if we could keep hold of all three for a few seasons and sort out the issues down the flanks, the future of our defence would be very bright indeed.
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Post by moon on Jan 11, 2021 13:06:35 GMT
He played well apart from his distribution, which is ambitious to say the least. What's this weird thing you've got going on that with Souttar and his distribution... is it one of those "If you say it enough times its true" things or what? Most other people seem to agree that his distribution is generally good. He's done some great longer crossfield passes out to the wingers this season, I have no concerns about his distribution. I'm really impressed with Souttar this season, he's probably our best CB at the moment, and I never would've considered that a possibility before this season.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 11, 2021 13:17:50 GMT
I appreciate I'm in a minority but I think Souttar's form has dipped, not alarmingly, but significantly, since he returned to the team following isolation period.
He's still playing OK but he set such high standards for himself initially and I don't think he's quite in the form he was earlier in the season. He's a bit less composed, his distribution has gone a bit AWOL and he's appeared a little sloppy in aspects of his defending that weren't visible at all before.
He's a young lad. Dips are in form are to be expected. Hopefully this little break in the hectic schedule will enable him to recover a little, mentally if not physically.
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Post by somersetpotter on Jan 11, 2021 13:27:51 GMT
After 16 games for us thats a reasonable valuation not that I would have any interest in selling him for that fee but at a similar age and experience and with arguably a better pedigree Ryan cost £1m, the challenge for Stoke will be to keep Harry for that long or at least until any transfer fee makes a decent dent in our ffp problems. Are you talking about the same Ryan that signed over 10 years ago when players used to be sold for peanuts and a bag of salt and vinegar crisps? Better to compare with someone like Rodon that just went to Spurs from Swansea. He went for £12m i think..
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