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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 18:40:40 GMT
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Sept 14, 2020 18:40:40 GMT
70 pl in comparison to wimmers 110 odd, however Chester has been a club captain and vital at villa, Chester also had a run to euro semis Overall it’s chester all day long for me Both are shite. That’s all that matters. Except that’s not true and a bit of a kop out, Chester played well Saturday after a solid if unspectacular last 6 months, our upturn in form with him in the team isn’t a coincidence
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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 18:42:39 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 18:42:39 GMT
In a system that is being used to protect him and his mate. Which is quite laughable. He did his job. We conceded zero. Well done James Chester..... We have had to change tactics to protect him. It’s pathetic.
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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 18:44:02 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 18:44:02 GMT
Both are shite. That’s all that matters. Except that’s not true and a bit of a kop out, Chester played well Saturday after a solid if unspectacular last 6 months, our upturn in form with him in the team isn’t a coincidence 😂😂it’s a massive coincidence. No one wanted Chester until it looked like the manager was daft enough to sign him so people changed their opinion so it didn’t look like they were going against the manager. It’s been really fucking funny.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2020 18:45:53 GMT
He did his job. We conceded zero. Well done James Chester..... We have had to change tactics to protect him. It’s pathetic. More clean sheets than a Chinese Laundry. “Though shalt not pass”
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Post by spiderpuss on Sept 14, 2020 18:53:51 GMT
One has just got another clean sheet under his belt though.... In a system that is being used to protect him and his mate. Which is quite laughable. I look at a player at how many seasons they've played for one club. Chester has 3/4 at Hull and another 3 at Villa. That's no small beer. Since 2013, Wimmer hasn't been involved, really involved, with any club. That says to me "trouble". Chester fits our needs perfectly right now. Someone who wants to work at the club and stay fit. Everything Wimmer isn't and more. Wimmer should leave on a free if it weren't for FFP.
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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 19:07:35 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 19:07:35 GMT
In a system that is being used to protect him and his mate. Which is quite laughable. I look at a player at how many seasons they've played for one club. Chester has 3/4 at Hull and another 3 at Villa. That's no small beer. Since 2013, Wimmer hasn't been involved, really involved, with any club. That says to me "trouble". Chester fits our needs perfectly right now. Someone who wants to work at the club and stay fit. Everything Wimmer isn't and more. Wimmer should leave on a free if it weren't for FFP. We didn’t need him. He’s admitted himself that his body is broke. Neither were needed at the time of signing. Both are shite.
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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 19:07:58 GMT
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Sept 14, 2020 19:07:58 GMT
Except that’s not true and a bit of a kop out, Chester played well Saturday after a solid if unspectacular last 6 months, our upturn in form with him in the team isn’t a coincidence 😂😂it’s a massive coincidence. No one wanted Chester until it looked like the manager was daft enough to sign him so people changed their opinion so it didn’t look like they were going against the manager. It’s been really fucking funny. Ok what do you put the upturn down to then
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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 19:10:58 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 19:10:58 GMT
😂😂it’s a massive coincidence. No one wanted Chester until it looked like the manager was daft enough to sign him so people changed their opinion so it didn’t look like they were going against the manager. It’s been really fucking funny. Ok what do you put the upturn down to then Scoring more goals than the opposition does. The defence still looked shit under MON.
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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 19:31:23 GMT
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Post by s7oke on Sept 14, 2020 19:31:23 GMT
Also would like to see him have a couple of starts in cup games of course just to verify that he is a useless fucker And if he isn't - what then? Play the fucker
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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 19:52:39 GMT
Post by oslostokie1 on Sept 14, 2020 19:52:39 GMT
has he been spotted even trainin with the kids?
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 14, 2020 20:20:10 GMT
I still maintain that Wimmer is the worst signing in Stoke's history. Imbula and Berahino have obvious talent but also have serious attitude issues. You can argue that Imbula or Berahino were worth having a punt with because of that talent. Wimmer was very clearly a jobbing layman centre back, it was clear from his very first appearance. I'm no fan of Chester but he is a class act in comparison to Wimmer. Spurs fans generally liked Wimmer and Wimmer has played more season in the top flight than Chester. Other than that spot on. Villa fans loved Chester, Spurs fans were completely indifferent to a player who played a handful of games for them in two seasons. The majority of Wimmer's top flight games were years ago. His top flight games as a Stoke player were as bad as any player I've ever seen in a Stoke shirt in the top flight, he really was that bad.
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Post by pottersrule on Sept 14, 2020 20:40:42 GMT
Really interested how you’re going to justify this I don’t think people realise how little top flight football Chester has played. He has played 60 Premier League games, compared to 32 played by Wimmer (17 at Stoke) that's nearly double what Fat boy has appeared in.How can you say Wimmer has played more top flight games?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2020 20:44:19 GMT
I don’t think people realise how little top flight football Chester has played. He has played 60 Premier League games, compared to 32 played by Wimmer (17 at Stoke) that's nearly double what Fat boy has appeared in.How can you say Wimmer has played more top flight games? As usual he makes it up to suit his petty agenda against certain players
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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 20:45:19 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 20:45:19 GMT
Spurs fans generally liked Wimmer and Wimmer has played more season in the top flight than Chester. Other than that spot on. Villa fans loved Chester, Spurs fans were completely indifferent to a player who played a handful of games for them in two seasons. The majority of Wimmer's top flight games were years ago. His top flight games as a Stoke player were as bad as any player I've ever seen in a Stoke shirt in the top flight, he really was that bad. And I think Chester has been woeful in the division below. Both are shite.
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Post by numpty40 on Sept 14, 2020 20:51:47 GMT
Villa fans loved Chester, Spurs fans were completely indifferent to a player who played a handful of games for them in two seasons. The majority of Wimmer's top flight games were years ago. His top flight games as a Stoke player were as bad as any player I've ever seen in a Stoke shirt in the top flight, he really was that bad. And I think Chester has been woeful in the division below. Both are shite. I'm no Chester fan but he didn't cost us £18m and a fortune in wages on a 5 year contract. My original point was Wimmer is Stoke's worst ever signing, Chester doesn't come in the top 50.
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Wimmer
Sept 14, 2020 20:57:55 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 20:57:55 GMT
And I think Chester has been woeful in the division below. Both are shite. I'm no Chester fan but he didn't cost us £18m and a fortune in wages on a 5 year contract. My original point was Wimmer is Stoke's worst ever signing, Chester doesn't come in the top 50. Two things that aren’t his fault.
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Post by wrexhamstokie90 on Sept 15, 2020 8:46:22 GMT
It still grinds me we brought this twat an Bournemouth brought ake for the same money around the same time which they have since sold on for money
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Sept 15, 2020 15:44:45 GMT
I'm no Chester fan but he didn't cost us £18m and a fortune in wages on a 5 year contract. My original point was Wimmer is Stoke's worst ever signing, Chester doesn't come in the top 50. Two things that aren’t his fault. Both are shite but Chester is still lightyears ahead of Wimmer as a player. Dont use some Spurs fans comments and the fact he played 15 games over 2 seasons in the Prem as your argument Bayern. You know better than that. Take away the 18M and the 5 year contract from the issue. Wimmer is a simply terrible footballer, and the biggest pussy of a defender I have ever seen with my own eyes. I know you will never change ur opinion and Im simply wasting my time here. Wimmer will never play football in a top league again after his contract finishes at Stoke.
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Wimmer
Sept 15, 2020 16:05:10 GMT
Post by lordb on Sept 15, 2020 16:05:10 GMT
I'm no Chester fan but he didn't cost us £18m and a fortune in wages on a 5 year contract. My original point was Wimmer is Stoke's worst ever signing, Chester doesn't come in the top 50. Two things that aren’t his fault. agreed they are Scholes fault none the less he is shite
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Wimmer
Sept 15, 2020 16:10:14 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Sept 15, 2020 16:10:14 GMT
Two things that aren’t his fault. agreed they are Scholes fault none the less he is shite ...or Hughes? You could blame our owners for backing the manager though, but that will be a bit harsh in my opinion.
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Wimmer
Sept 15, 2020 16:11:26 GMT
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Post by gingerninja on Sept 15, 2020 16:11:26 GMT
A genuine question, has be actually been seen at the club training. Is he even in the country?.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Sept 15, 2020 19:38:23 GMT
A genuine question, has be actually been seen at the club training. Is he even in the country?. He landed in Leighton Buzzard.
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Post by scarlet on Sept 15, 2020 20:44:33 GMT
The annoying thing is we are having to pay someone a seven figure annual salary who has contributed absolutely nothing to the first team in return. It’s surely not unreasonable to expect the player to show some commitment to his employers and professional pride in himself?
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Post by lordb on Sept 15, 2020 20:46:08 GMT
agreed they are Scholes fault none the less he is shite ...or Hughes? You could blame our owners for backing the manager though, but that will be a bit harsh in my opinion. Hughes as well, but he didn't negotiate the fee or the salary.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 15, 2020 20:58:06 GMT
Ah the good old process in evidence , add Berahino, Imbula, Afobe, Ince, Etebo, Ndiya, Vokes and others to the transfer clusterfuck yet our CEO has nothing to do with it Ah but the board say “Chief executive has full executive responsibility for all football matters .” September 2020 They also say the manager has final say on the signings.......
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 15, 2020 21:13:26 GMT
...or Hughes? You could blame our owners for backing the manager though, but that will be a bit harsh in my opinion. Hughes as well, but he didn't negotiate the fee or the salary. I think we were in for Maguire, but Hughes preferred Wimmer instead!
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Wimmer
Sept 15, 2020 21:25:34 GMT
Post by greenhoff on Sept 15, 2020 21:25:34 GMT
Hughes as well, but he didn't negotiate the fee or the salary. I think we were in for Maguire, but Hughes preferred Wimmer instead! I'm not sure this is right. We had both Maguire and Robertson in the bag until Leicester and Liverpool came in with better offers
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Wimmer
Sept 15, 2020 22:05:33 GMT
Post by benjaminbiscuit on Sept 15, 2020 22:05:33 GMT
Ah but the board say “Chief executive has full executive responsibility for all football matters .” September 2020 They also say the manager has final say on the signings....... Manager reports to the person with executive responsibility for all football matters
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Wimmer
Sept 15, 2020 23:02:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 23:02:04 GMT
I think we were in for Maguire, but Hughes preferred Wimmer instead! I'm not sure this is right. We had both Maguire and Robertson in the bag until Leicester and Liverpool came in with better offers ...and from there we ended up with Kevin Wimmer and Josh Tymon. It wasn't the first or last time we started off with a pretty good plan A and ended up very quickly at plan Z. Far too many examples of that to let the process go unpunished. Sadly, our answer to that upon relegation was to hand the keys to a 50M safe over to Gary Rowett!
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Wimmer
Sept 16, 2020 4:13:54 GMT
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Post by s7oke on Sept 16, 2020 4:13:54 GMT
Wimmer signed for Stoke City on 28 August 2017, for a fee of £18 million.[24] Manager Mark Hughes said that "Bringing Kevin here is a real coup in my view, because he is a hugely talented young player who will undoubtedly add further quality to the group...There is a lot of money being spent this summer, so for us to get a player of Kevin’s calibre through the door for the price we have paid, in my opinion, is something we will really appreciate for years to come"
Fucking Hughes Sometimes I think it’s all to easy to blame the CEO they have to take the advice of their employees on matters Not sticking up for scholes btw
But obviously our ex managers were recommending players and he was going out getting them
It’s like changing a supplier at work
But yea Wimmer is gash And Rowett was and is a useless cunt and a huge mistake
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