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Post by wazbagsbro on Sept 13, 2020 19:27:12 GMT
Why the fook do some posters,who don't agree with a comment from a fellow poster,go on to accuse them of having an agenda? It's like a new fashion and it has started to annoy me.That many Sokies can't all have agendas can they.That much time thinking about politics would leave no time for drinking and women,and I don't believe it.People can post stuff they may not really mean,or haven't thought through, due to mood ,temper or sobriety,but to have an agenda sounds like hard work,much consideration and seems far fetched to me.Maybe I'm a bit dim,a bit naive but there's no agenda
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Post by davejohnno1 on Sept 13, 2020 19:32:55 GMT
Why the fook do some posters,who don't agree with a comment from a fellow poster,go on to accuse them of having an agenda? It's like a new fashion and it has started to annoy me.That many Sokies can't all have agendas can they.That much time thinking about politics would leave no time for drinking and women,and I don't believe it.People can post stuff they may not really mean,or haven't thought through, due to mood ,temper or sobriety,but to have an agenda sounds like hard work,much consideration and seems far fetched to me.Maybe I'm a bit dim,a bit naive but there's no agenda You've got an agenda against oatcake posters haven't you? It's clear as day!
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Post by wazbagsbro on Sept 13, 2020 19:38:10 GMT
Why the fook do some posters,who don't agree with a comment from a fellow poster,go on to accuse them of having an agenda? It's like a new fashion and it has started to annoy me.That many Sokies can't all have agendas can they.That much time thinking about politics would leave no time for drinking and women,and I don't believe it.People can post stuff they may not really mean,or haven't thought through, due to mood ,temper or sobriety,but to have an agenda sounds like hard work,much consideration and seems far fetched to me.Maybe I'm a bit dim,a bit naive but there's no agenda You've got an agenda against oatcake posters haven't you? It's clear as day! 😀 only with those that don't agree with my POV
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Post by swampmongrel on Sept 13, 2020 19:44:42 GMT
Why the fook do some posters,who don't agree with a comment from a fellow poster,go on to accuse them of having an agenda? It's like a new fashion and it has started to annoy me.That many Sokies can't all have agendas can they.That much time thinking about politics would leave no time for drinking and women,and I don't believe it.People can post stuff they may not really mean,or haven't thought through, due to mood ,temper or sobriety,but to have an agenda sounds like hard work,much consideration and seems far fetched to me.Maybe I'm a bit dim,a bit naive but there's no agenda It’s not a new fashion.
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Post by wazbagsbro on Sept 13, 2020 19:51:39 GMT
It's new to me mate and it's bollocks
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 13, 2020 19:52:34 GMT
Why the fook do some posters,who don't agree with a comment from a fellow poster,go on to accuse them of having an agenda? It's like a new fashion and it has started to annoy me.That many Sokies can't all have agendas can they.That much time thinking about politics would leave no time for drinking and women,and I don't believe it.People can post stuff they may not really mean,or haven't thought through, due to mood ,temper or sobriety,but to have an agenda sounds like hard work,much consideration and seems far fetched to me.Maybe I'm a bit dim,a bit naive but there's no agenda I think it's just a sign of the times mate. At times I can't believe we live in a country with a government that lies constantly, despises its own people, but are backed by an extreme right wing media who manage to secure the vote of 45% of the electorate in this country. So it is in the context of a country that has never been more divided, going through an unprecedented global pandemic, and the disastrous exit from a stable free trade union, that you make these comments, and maybe the national tory-made disaster ee are experiencing is affecting people's moods? Yes, I agree football should be a distraction and so should this mb.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Sept 13, 2020 19:53:58 GMT
I make my point and fuck off, I generally don't have the energy to stick around and engage in pointless debates for too long.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 13, 2020 20:26:33 GMT
Why the fook do some posters,who don't agree with a comment from a fellow poster,go on to accuse them of having an agenda? It's like a new fashion and it has started to annoy me.That many Sokies can't all have agendas can they.That much time thinking about politics would leave no time for drinking and women,and I don't believe it.People can post stuff they may not really mean,or haven't thought through, due to mood ,temper or sobriety,but to have an agenda sounds like hard work,much consideration and seems far fetched to me.Maybe I'm a bit dim,a bit naive but there's no agenda I think it's just a sign of the times mate. At times I can't believe we live in a country with a government that lies constantly, despises its own people, but are backed by an extreme right wing media who manage to secure the vote of 45% of the electorate in this country. So it is in the context of a country that has never been more divided, going through an unprecedented global pandemic, and the disastrous exit from a stable free trade union, that you make these comments, and maybe the national tory-made disaster ee are experiencing is affecting people's moods? Yes, I agree football should be a distraction and so should this mb. Now that’s an agenda🤣
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Sept 13, 2020 20:31:37 GMT
Sadly the art of debate is lost on some who cant help emotion taking over
To say some one has an agenda is just a lazy way of ending an argument/discussion
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Post by zerps on Sept 13, 2020 20:34:13 GMT
This thread offends me
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Sept 13, 2020 21:06:52 GMT
🤣yes and that's the second way of ending an argument See: you're raising your voice! Whatever I wont lower myself to argue with you Etc
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Post by thevoid on Sept 13, 2020 21:13:25 GMT
Why the fook do some posters,who don't agree with a comment from a fellow poster,go on to accuse them of having an agenda? It's like a new fashion and it has started to annoy me.That many Sokies can't all have agendas can they.That much time thinking about politics would leave no time for drinking and women,and I don't believe it.People can post stuff they may not really mean,or haven't thought through, due to mood ,temper or sobriety,but to have an agenda sounds like hard work,much consideration and seems far fetched to me.Maybe I'm a bit dim,a bit naive but there's no agenda I think it's just a sign of the times mate. At times I can't believe we live in a country with a government that lies constantly, despises its own people, but are backed by an extreme right wing media who manage to secure the vote of 45% of the electorate in this country. So it is in the context of a country that has never been more divided, going through an unprecedented global pandemic, and the disastrous exit from a stable free trade union, that you make these comments, and maybe the national tory-made disaster ee are experiencing is affecting people's moods? Yes, I agree football should be a distraction and so should this mb. Here we go, 'extreme right wing media'. What rot- coming from someone who was calling any criticism of BLM racist on the other thread, clearly it's you who's been hoodwinked by the media. The fact that you dismiss anything as extreme or racist because you disagree with it is predictable and clichéd. You may not like The Mail, Express or Sun but to call them extreme right wing is nonsense. Right wing and populist yes, but if they were extreme, they'd have been banned. If you don't like them, on the other side there's The Guardian, Independent or Mirror. None of the major TV news broadcasters- BBC, ITV, C4 or Sky- are right wing in any way, shape or form. The closest you'll get is some of the 'shock jocks' on TalkRadio etc but even they aren't 'extreme'. Again, if they were, they'd be taken off air. Or perhaps you'd prefer a purely left wing media? Quite ironic given the thread topic 😆
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 13, 2020 21:19:43 GMT
Why the fook do some posters,who don't agree with a comment from a fellow poster,go on to accuse them of having an agenda? It's like a new fashion and it has started to annoy me.That many Sokies can't all have agendas can they.That much time thinking about politics would leave no time for drinking and women,and I don't believe it.People can post stuff they may not really mean,or haven't thought through, due to mood ,temper or sobriety,but to have an agenda sounds like hard work,much consideration and seems far fetched to me.Maybe I'm a bit dim,a bit naive but there's no agenda I think it's just a sign of the times mate. At times I can't believe we live in a country with a government that lies constantly, despises its own people, but are backed by an extreme right wing media who manage to secure the vote of 45% of the electorate in this country. So it is in the context of a country that has never been more divided, going through an unprecedented global pandemic, and the disastrous exit from a stable free trade union, that you make these comments, and maybe the national tory-made disaster ee are experiencing is affecting people's moods? Yes, I agree football should be a distraction and so should this mb. Talk about having an agenda
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Post by wazbagsbro on Sept 13, 2020 21:54:45 GMT
Jesus, I'm sorry to everyone for starting this thread. Truely .please shit bin ,
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 13, 2020 22:30:45 GMT
I think it's just a sign of the times mate. At times I can't believe we live in a country with a government that lies constantly, despises its own people, but are backed by an extreme right wing media who manage to secure the vote of 45% of the electorate in this country. So it is in the context of a country that has never been more divided, going through an unprecedented global pandemic, and the disastrous exit from a stable free trade union, that you make these comments, and maybe the national tory-made disaster ee are experiencing is affecting people's moods? Yes, I agree football should be a distraction and so should this mb. Here we go, 'extreme right wing media'. What rot- coming from someone who was calling any criticism of BLM racist on the other thread, clearly it's you who's been hoodwinked by the media. The fact that you dismiss anything as extreme or racist because you disagree with it is predictable and cliched. You may not like The Mail, Express or Sun but to call them extreme right wing is nonsense. Right wing and populist yes, but if they were extreme, they'd have been banned. If you don't like them, on the other side there's The Guardian, Independent or Mirror. None of the major TV news broadcasters- BBC, ITV, C4 or Sky- are right wing in any way, shape or form. The closest you'll get is some of the 'shock jocks' on TalkRadio etc but even they aren't 'extreme'. Again, if they were, they'd be taken off air. Or perhaps you'd prefer a purely left wing media? Quite ironic given the thread topic 😆 If you take offence at the message from BLM there is no doubt you are a racist. And if you think that the dominant media in this country is not espousing an extreme right wing message which is fertilising racism and fascism then you need to wake up.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 13, 2020 22:34:08 GMT
Here we go, 'extreme right wing media'. What rot- coming from someone who was calling any criticism of BLM racist on the other thread, clearly it's you who's been hoodwinked by the media. The fact that you dismiss anything as extreme or racist because you disagree with it is predictable and cliched. You may not like The Mail, Express or Sun but to call them extreme right wing is nonsense. Right wing and populist yes, but if they were extreme, they'd have been banned. If you don't like them, on the other side there's The Guardian, Independent or Mirror. None of the major TV news broadcasters- BBC, ITV, C4 or Sky- are right wing in any way, shape or form. The closest you'll get is some of the 'shock jocks' on TalkRadio etc but even they aren't 'extreme'. Again, if they were, they'd be taken off air. Or perhaps you'd prefer a purely left wing media? Quite ironic given the thread topic 😆 If you take offence at the message from BLM there is no doubt you are a racist. And if you think that the dominant media in this country is not espousing an extreme right wing message which is fertilising racism and fascism then you need to wake up. Utter hogwash!
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 14, 2020 0:07:01 GMT
Here we go, 'extreme right wing media'. What rot- coming from someone who was calling any criticism of BLM racist on the other thread, clearly it's you who's been hoodwinked by the media. The fact that you dismiss anything as extreme or racist because you disagree with it is predictable and cliched. You may not like The Mail, Express or Sun but to call them extreme right wing is nonsense. Right wing and populist yes, but if they were extreme, they'd have been banned. If you don't like them, on the other side there's The Guardian, Independent or Mirror. None of the major TV news broadcasters- BBC, ITV, C4 or Sky- are right wing in any way, shape or form. The closest you'll get is some of the 'shock jocks' on TalkRadio etc but even they aren't 'extreme'. Again, if they were, they'd be taken off air. Or perhaps you'd prefer a purely left wing media? Quite ironic given the thread topic 😆 If you take offence at the message from BLM there is no doubt you are a racist. And if you think that the dominant media in this country is not espousing an extreme right wing message which is fertilising racism and fascism then you need to wake up. Let me guess - Jeremy Corbyn is the greatest PM this country never had
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Post by thevoid on Sept 14, 2020 9:35:39 GMT
Here we go, 'extreme right wing media'. What rot- coming from someone who was calling any criticism of BLM racist on the other thread, clearly it's you who's been hoodwinked by the media. The fact that you dismiss anything as extreme or racist because you disagree with it is predictable and cliched. You may not like The Mail, Express or Sun but to call them extreme right wing is nonsense. Right wing and populist yes, but if they were extreme, they'd have been banned. If you don't like them, on the other side there's The Guardian, Independent or Mirror. None of the major TV news broadcasters- BBC, ITV, C4 or Sky- are right wing in any way, shape or form. The closest you'll get is some of the 'shock jocks' on TalkRadio etc but even they aren't 'extreme'. Again, if they were, they'd be taken off air. Or perhaps you'd prefer a purely left wing media? Quite ironic given the thread topic 😆 If you take offence at the message from BLM there is no doubt you are a racist. And if you think that the dominant media in this country is not espousing an extreme right wing message which is fertilising racism and fascism then you need to wake up. Are the BBC and Premier League racist then? I'll repost my message from the other thread: 'To quickly summarise, a lot of people cannot support BLM UK as they find their overall goals - beyond black rights - unpalatable. Look them up. I'll give you an example- they class the suffragettes as 'white supremacists'. They're crackpots. They've been savvy in calling themselves Black Lives Matter though, as the usual sheep will automatically see criticism of a group with this name as racist by default, without doing some research.' 'I've no problem with No Room for Racism/Kick It Out etc and it should be these who Sky are endorsing, as the Premier League are. Even the BBC distanced itself from BLM UK.' If you think that's racist, please re-read the sentence I wrote regarding them being savvy. It's you who needs to wake up. BLM UK are a completely separate entity to BLM US- have you even read their full mission statement?
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Post by cerebralstokie on Sept 14, 2020 10:16:44 GMT
Too many people have "Agendas" and look for evidence in support (ignoring evidence to the contrary) instead of looking at all the facts and then forming an opinion. In reality, many issues are very complex and not always easy to comprehend. Climate change is an example, but evidence that it is happening is mounting but there are still deniers who cling to the notion that it is not. The problem here is that if you accept that climate change is happening, then changes in life style to combat the threat affects people's lives in ways which they might not easily accept such as the way we produce food and in transport and leisure. What should be an evidence based issue then becomes politicised into a "why can't we do what we want" camp and those who think that this attitude is selfish and irresponsible.
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Post by crapslinger on Sept 14, 2020 14:30:58 GMT
Here we go, 'extreme right wing media'. What rot- coming from someone who was calling any criticism of BLM racist on the other thread, clearly it's you who's been hoodwinked by the media. The fact that you dismiss anything as extreme or racist because you disagree with it is predictable and cliched. You may not like The Mail, Express or Sun but to call them extreme right wing is nonsense. Right wing and populist yes, but if they were extreme, they'd have been banned. If you don't like them, on the other side there's The Guardian, Independent or Mirror. None of the major TV news broadcasters- BBC, ITV, C4 or Sky- are right wing in any way, shape or form. The closest you'll get is some of the 'shock jocks' on TalkRadio etc but even they aren't 'extreme'. Again, if they were, they'd be taken off air. Or perhaps you'd prefer a purely left wing media? Quite ironic given the thread topic 😆 If you take offence at the message from BLM there is no doubt you are a racist. And if you think that the dominant media in this country is not espousing an extreme right wing message which is fertilising racism and fascism then you need to wake up. What a pile of woke bullshit.
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Post by questionable on Sept 14, 2020 14:52:32 GMT
I’d never post anything that I wouldn’t say to anyone’s face, certainly wouldn’t abuse someone (badly) about their stance on things, half of it I haven’t got a friggin clue what they’re on a about or I’m not bothered in truth.
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