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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2020 9:09:59 GMT
Once Joe is back id expect Powell to play off the front He shouldn’t get back in this side. If he trains well and regains his fitness he’ll be in the side
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Post by lordb on Sept 14, 2020 9:12:11 GMT
Re Powell unless he is playing right up front he goes looking for the ball - not in itself a bad thing - with the result that some games he ends up too deep. Looking for his team mates to be realise this and get on at him to get higher up the pitch.
Can say this for lots of players though at lots of clubs, too many won't say boo to a goose and leave things to the manager to sort out out at half time instead of dealing with things on the pitch.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 9:12:36 GMT
He shouldn’t get back in this side. If he trains well and regains his fitness he’ll be in the side Which would be wrong. Mikel is the better DM. Clucas is the better box to boxer. Powell is the better #10. There’s not a better time to sell the useless git! Again him coming back in the side just messes the balance that 3 above should have if the manager actually used them correctly.
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Post by lordb on Sept 14, 2020 9:12:52 GMT
Once Joe is back id expect Powell to play off the front He shouldn’t get back in this side. Mikel won't be playing three games every 8 days
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 14, 2020 9:12:54 GMT
Be interesting to see if he reverts back to a back four at home to Bristol City. Would go with
Davies
Smith Batth Chester Fox
Mikel Clucas Powell
Campbell Fletcher Brown
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2020 9:14:12 GMT
If he trains well and regains his fitness he’ll be in the side Which would be wrong. Mikel is the better DM. Clucas is the better box to boxer. Powell is the better #10. There’s not a better time to sell the useless git! Again him coming back in the side just messes the balance that 3 above should have if the manager actually used them correctly. As I’ve said on numerous occasions thankfully team selection is fuck all to do with you
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 9:15:05 GMT
He shouldn’t get back in this side. Mikel won't be playing three games every 8 days I think once he’s up to speed he should be fine with that or close to. And then imo Cousins does more defensively. Lock down showed that we didn’t miss Allen in the slightest when he came in the side. Absolutely nowt changed. If anything there was more protection for the back 4. Allen should only really be considered instead of Clucas imo. And there’s just no benefit of that.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 9:15:54 GMT
Which would be wrong. Mikel is the better DM. Clucas is the better box to boxer. Powell is the better #10. There’s not a better time to sell the useless git! Again him coming back in the side just messes the balance that 3 above should have if the manager actually used them correctly. As I’ve said on numerous occasions thankfully team selection is fuck all to do with you Good argument as usual. Go on then tell why super Joe improves on that (he doesn’t).
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2020 9:17:02 GMT
As I’ve said on numerous occasions thankfully team selection is fuck all to do with you Good argument as usual. Go on then tell why super Joe improves on that (he doesn’t). Player of the season whilst fit under O’Neill and goals/energy
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 14, 2020 9:18:04 GMT
It’s a very congested season. Joe Allen will surely be required but don’t think he warrants starting barring injuries.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 9:22:18 GMT
Good argument as usual. Go on then tell why super Joe improves on that (he doesn’t). Player of the season whilst fit under O’Neill and goals/energy I asked about Allen not Clucas....
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 9:22:50 GMT
It’s a very congested season. Joe Allen will surely be required but don’t think he warrants starting barring injuries. 10m and Jordan Cousins are of more use though?
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Post by lordb on Sept 14, 2020 9:24:23 GMT
Mikel won't be playing three games every 8 days I think once he’s up to speed he should be fine with that or close to. And then imo Cousins does more defensively. Lock down showed that we didn’t miss Allen in the slightest when he came in the side. Absolutely nowt changed. If anything there was more protection for the back 4. Allen should only really be considered instead of Clucas imo. And there’s just no benefit of that. O'Neill has already said that Mikel (nor Allen) will play Saturday-Weds-Saturday
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 14, 2020 9:26:56 GMT
It’s a very congested season. Joe Allen will surely be required but don’t think he warrants starting barring injuries. 10m and Jordan Cousins are of more use though? Yeh well we aren’t going to sell him anytime soon after a long term injury I wouldn’t think. Not sure he would be playing DM anyway would he? Probably come in for whenever Clucas is injures/suspended.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 9:35:50 GMT
10m and Jordan Cousins are of more use though? Yeh well we aren’t going to sell him anytime soon after a long term injury I wouldn’t think. Not sure he would be playing DM anyway would he? Probably come in for whenever Clucas is injures/suspended. I still think there’d be a market for him. Selling him makes way more sense than playing him.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 14, 2020 9:38:24 GMT
Yeh well we aren’t going to sell him anytime soon after a long term injury I wouldn’t think. Not sure he would be playing DM anyway would he? Probably come in for whenever Clucas is injures/suspended. I still think there’d be a market for him. Selling him makes way more sense than playing him. Oh yeh I’d sell for 10m in a heart beat. Just can’t see it. He’ll still be an important squad player this season, or at least I hope so.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 14, 2020 9:39:50 GMT
I still think there’d be a market for him. Selling him makes way more sense than playing him. Oh yeh I’d sell for 10m in a heart beat. Just can’t see it. He’ll still be an important squad player this season, or at least I hope so. I could cope with squad member. Just not starting every game and being his usual self.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 14, 2020 9:42:20 GMT
Oh yeh I’d sell for 10m in a heart beat. Just can’t see it. He’ll still be an important squad player this season, or at least I hope so. I could cope with squad member. Just not starting every game and being his usual self. As it stands he wouldn’t be in our strongest side, but as I said a useful squad player for when Clucas is injured/suspended. I never said he should be in the starting eleven.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 14, 2020 9:51:16 GMT
And then imo Cousins does more defensively. Lock down showed that we didn’t miss Allen in the slightest when he came in the side. Absolutely nowt changed. If anything there was more protection for the back 4. Allen should only really be considered instead of Clucas imo. And there’s just no benefit of that. I would disagree there. Before lock down Allen was the best player in a system which was beginning to work and get results. I am no Allen supporter but after lock down it took three matches and a change of formation to get going again. I am sure that there will be a place in the team for Allen and I suspect one of the centre halves will make way with Powell pushing further forward or wider.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 14, 2020 10:00:50 GMT
And then imo Cousins does more defensively. Lock down showed that we didn’t miss Allen in the slightest when he came in the side. Absolutely nowt changed. If anything there was more protection for the back 4. Allen should only really be considered instead of Clucas imo. And there’s just no benefit of that. I would disagree there. Before lock down Allen was the best player in a system which was beginning to work and get results. I am no Allen supporter but after lock down it took three matches and a change of formation to get going again. I am sure that there will be a place in the team for Allen and I suspect one of the centre halves will make way with Powell pushing further forward or wider. I think we will to see what a post-injury Allen will look like. That's a serious injury, it will take some time to get back up to scratch. He's not 21 anymore either.
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Post by jonparkinsgut on Sept 14, 2020 10:04:03 GMT
What about the text under the photo of Rowett "Gary Rowett only lost eight of his 29 matches in charge of Stoke City from May 2018 to January 2019" might have only lost 8 but he didn't win many, hence his departure. BBC anti-Stoke bias strikes again!
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Post by datguy on Sept 14, 2020 10:25:07 GMT
You’ve got to fear that when Allen’s back it’ll be Powell that makes the sacrifice.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 14, 2020 10:26:23 GMT
I would disagree there. Before lock down Allen was the best player in a system which was beginning to work and get results. I am no Allen supporter but after lock down it took three matches and a change of formation to get going again. I am sure that there will be a place in the team for Allen and I suspect one of the centre halves will make way with Powell pushing further forward or wider. I think we will to see what a post-injury Allen will look like. That's a serious injury, it will take some time to get back up to scratch. He's not 21 anymore either. True but the idea that there won't be a place in MON's team for a fit Allen is ludicrous. Personally I don't think it will be disastrous for the team if he doesn't manage to get back but I do have concerns that both Mikel and Powell will not stay fit all season and then the options look a bit dodgy if Allen isn't available.
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Post by datguy on Sept 14, 2020 10:27:01 GMT
Good argument as usual. Go on then tell why super Joe improves on that (he doesn’t). Player of the season whilst fit under O’Neill and goals/energy You keep on saying that but it’s not true, and even if it was, why did Cousins replace him and look better?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 14, 2020 10:35:09 GMT
Player of the season whilst fit under O’Neill and goals/energy You keep on saying that but it’s not true, and even if it was, why did Cousins replace him and look better? I keep saying it because for me it’s true and if you’d have listened to the manager he thought the same. Joe Allen will play a major part in our season(if here) whether you or Bayern think so or not
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 14, 2020 11:15:08 GMT
What about the text under the photo of Rowett "Gary Rowett only lost eight of his 29 matches in charge of Stoke City from May 2018 to January 2019" might have only lost 8 but he didn't win many, hence his departure. BBC anti-Stoke bias strikes again! Time for a Conspiracy Theory You Tube Channel methinks What shall we call it? Don't mention 5g though if you want to keep it running.
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 14, 2020 11:16:49 GMT
I think we will to see what a post-injury Allen will look like. That's a serious injury, it will take some time to get back up to scratch. He's not 21 anymore either. True but the idea that there won't be a place in MON's team for a fit Allen is ludicrous. Personally I don't think it will be disastrous for the team if he doesn't manage to get back but I do have concerns that both Mikel and Powell will not stay fit all season and then the options look a bit dodgy if Allen isn't available. Powell already spent 20 minutes of the first game rolling around on the turf.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 14, 2020 11:52:07 GMT
Once Joe is back id expect Powell to play off the front Why would it make a difference, Mikel is a better player and will sit like he's told, allowing Clucas and Powell a bit of freedom, 4-2-3-1 would be perfect.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 14, 2020 11:54:16 GMT
He shouldn’t get back in this side. Mikel won't be playing three games every 8 days Cousins is a good enough back up for him so I wouldn't worry.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 14, 2020 11:55:31 GMT
And then imo Cousins does more defensively. Lock down showed that we didn’t miss Allen in the slightest when he came in the side. Absolutely nowt changed. If anything there was more protection for the back 4. Allen should only really be considered instead of Clucas imo. And there’s just no benefit of that. I would disagree there. Before lock down Allen was the best player in a system which was beginning to work and get results. I am no Allen supporter but after lock down it took three matches and a change of formation to get going again. I am sure that there will be a place in the team for Allen and I suspect one of the centre halves will make way with Powell pushing further forward or wider. I think I watched different games if Allen was considered the best player in a system he doesn't fit in
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