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Post by dudnostokie on Sept 12, 2020 22:17:13 GMT
It was on the afternoon soccer sports results show. Bottom right hand section of the screen. GD I for one am glad that it's on the screen every few minutes because maybe just maybe it might educate some folk. Black people, women & LGBT people are discriminated against in what is allegedly the democratic civilised west. And with right wing populist politics on the rise we need to stand up & stand together for minority groups. So carry on with the BLM campaign because it matters and BLACK LIVES MATTER. We'll Be With You. Keep pushing your straw-man narrative.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Sept 12, 2020 22:20:44 GMT
It was on the afternoon soccer sports results show. Bottom right hand section of the screen. GD I for one am glad that it's on the screen every few minutes because maybe just maybe it might educate some folk. Black people, women & LGBT people are discriminated against in what is allegedly the democratic civilised west. And with right wing populist politics on the rise we need to stand up & stand together for minority groups. So carry on with the BLM campaign because it matters and BLACK LIVES MATTER. We'll Be With You. Putting a BLM logo on the screen and kneeling before kick off is the very opposite of educating people I imagine🤔
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2020 22:20:56 GMT
Do they allow black people on Guernsey? Are women allowed to vote there? I suspect you know the answer to that one. As someone who has visited Guernsey several times over the years and as beautiful as it is, it's backward beyond belief. Absolutely no level playing field for women, people of colour or the LGBT community. It's the kind of place that Farage, Johnson & Trump would fit in very comfortably...................if that helps?...... Really ? Especially this weekend being what it is in Guernsey. You uneducated dumb fuck GD
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 12, 2020 22:22:32 GMT
Once again people can't differentiate between the man and his results. Were you interfered with as a youngster by a Welsh scout master who happened to wear glasses & a cap? ............Grow up and lose the anger & bitterness....you might feel a whole lot better...........TP the LEGEND. GREAT GREAT MAN!!!! Oh dear.
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 12, 2020 22:25:08 GMT
Pugs. You didn’t revel in safety from relegation, promotion to the promised land, an FA cup final and a flirt with European football? Fair enough, I did. I imagine many others did as well. It’s all about opinions. Me personally having experienced a plethora of managers in my lifetime and remembering those that gave me (and I’d imagine a lot of others pleasure and pride) I like to think fondly of Waddo, Durban, Lou, Thordarrson, TP and now MON. That’s near on 60 years Once again people can't differentiate between the man and his results. FFS. I support Stoke City and have done so from being a nipper. I’ve had magical moments and the lowest of the lows. Promotions, relegations, cup finals, European adventures, the Centenary, Stan’s World X1 etc etc TP was (as others were) a major part in those memories. He was successful at SCFC....there’s no argument. Like it or not. Ive never met the bloke, never had personal dealings with him. Have you? If you have personal grievances fairs do’s. I’m not interested in keyboard title tattle. His “footballing record” at “our” club is unquestionable PLEASE (all) don’t let this turn into another TP thread this is simply a response to Pugs.
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Post by maine on Sept 12, 2020 22:49:19 GMT
Guernsey Dave. Calling Anchorman 'uneducated' etc is a little unfair.It's fine that there's a current Pride day, but decriminalization was enacted 16 years after the UK mainland and anti discrimination legislation is sketchy to say the least. Now his pro Tone perspective is arguably a little more problematic!
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Post by yes on Sept 13, 2020 5:07:07 GMT
ALL lives matter though 🙄 Of course they do but there is a very specific issue in the US where black lives don't seem to matter. Don't worry, I was being sarcastic, not sure if the rolling eyes gave it away. I completely agree with the BLM sentiment (and not just in the US, we have problems too, although not to the same extent)
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Post by Olgrligm on Sept 13, 2020 6:28:45 GMT
I am almost certain I will regret asking this but why exactly is BLM bullshit? Stand clear, here comes the gammons 😂 The ubiquitous use of the word 'gammon' is very irritating. In what world is it acceptable to try to shut down another person with an ad hominem attack based on their skin colour, age and gender? Is it so much to expect people to not be unpleasant to one another?
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Post by JoeinOz on Sept 13, 2020 6:30:03 GMT
The notion politics and sport can live independently of each other is a pipe dream.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 13, 2020 6:31:20 GMT
They released the whole pool of presenters yesterday
Akinfenwa Sherwood Fowler Lescott Merson Kamara Sue Smith McInally Clinton Morrison Glen Johnson
I guess we’ll have to see it goes. Big fan of Kamara as he doesn’t take himself too seriously. Not so sure about some of the others. I find Morrison really iritating and never really got what Mcinally brings to the party.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 13, 2020 7:29:48 GMT
Once again people can't differentiate between the man and his results. FFS. I support Stoke City and have done so from being a nipper. I’ve had magical moments and the lowest of the lows. Promotions, relegations, cup finals, European adventures, the Centenary, Stan’s World X1 etc etc TP was (as others were) a major part in those memories. He was successful at SCFC....there’s no argument. Like it or not. Ive never met the bloke, never had personal dealings with him. Have you? If you have personal grievances fairs do’s. I’m not interested in keyboard title tattle. His “footballing record” at “our” club is unquestionable PLEASE (all) don’t let this turn into another TP thread this is simply a response to Pugs. So you can put your view forward but nobody else can? I'm pretty much done discussing Pulis on here but I have to say that's amused me greatly
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Sept 13, 2020 8:14:23 GMT
Stand clear, here comes the gammons 😂 The ubiquitous use of the word 'gammon' is very irritating. In what world is it acceptable to try to shut down another person with an ad hominem attack based on their skin colour, age and gender? Is it so much to expect people to not be unpleasant to one another? I just see it as a reverse of snowflake, and my generation gets called that all the time, I don’t think you can argue either is that bad generations disagreeing with each other is a tale as old as time. Don’t take it to heart
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Post by owdestokie2 on Sept 13, 2020 8:19:26 GMT
FFS. I support Stoke City and have done so from being a nipper. I’ve had magical moments and the lowest of the lows. Promotions, relegations, cup finals, European adventures, the Centenary, Stan’s World X1 etc etc TP was (as others were) a major part in those memories. He was successful at SCFC....there’s no argument. Like it or not. Ive never met the bloke, never had personal dealings with him. Have you? If you have personal grievances fairs do’s. I’m not interested in keyboard title tattle. His “footballing record” at “our” club is unquestionable PLEASE (all) don’t let this turn into another TP thread this is simply a response to Pugs. So you can put your view forward but nobody else can? I'm pretty much done discussing Pulis on here but I have to say that's amused me greatly Which part of “this is simply a response to Pugs” didn’t you understand?
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Post by anchorman on Sept 13, 2020 9:56:00 GMT
I suspect you know the answer to that one. As someone who has visited Guernsey several times over the years and as beautiful as it is, it's backward beyond belief. Absolutely no level playing field for women, people of colour or the LGBT community. It's the kind of place that Farage, Johnson & Trump would fit in very comfortably...................if that helps?...... Really ? Especially this weekend being what it is in Guernsey. You uneducated dumb fuck GD Uneducated dumb fuck...Thank you so much...rich coming from someone who’s fed up BLM appearing on his TV screen.....I imagine black people are fed up of systemic racism. Enjoy Guernsey pride today GD.
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Post by elystokie on Sept 13, 2020 10:51:43 GMT
So you can put your view forward but nobody else can? I'm pretty much done discussing Pulis on here but I have to say that's amused me greatly Which part of “this is simply a response to Pugs” didn’t you understand? The part where it appears on a message board viewed by thousands.
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Post by songthrush01 on Sept 13, 2020 10:55:20 GMT
Weekly football program, politics and an ex Stoke City manager. And it's about Sports and Politics being entwined (which it never should be) and an opinion. How difficult is that to understand. And why if you dont, should it be in the shit bin ? I await your erudite response with interest GD Thanks for this, guernsey. As a crumblie I am not up with this. For me, Politics and Sport should not be intertwined, although I am aware of Celtic/Rangers religious issues and a few others. If the title of the Board is Stoke City I am looking for comments on how the team has performed and debate about tactics, formations and the contribution of individuals. Politics, in my view, should be on Everything Else. Sorry if we disagree. sorry to tell you this.but they have just brought in politics into football,with the bended knee.
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Post by songthrush01 on Sept 13, 2020 11:00:31 GMT
It was on the afternoon soccer sports results show. Bottom right hand section of the screen. GD I for one am glad that it's on the screen every few minutes because maybe just maybe it might educate some folk. Black people, women & LGBT people are discriminated against in what is allegedly the democratic civilised west. And with right wing populist politics on the rise we need to stand up & stand together for minority groups. So carry on with the BLM campaign because it matters and BLACK LIVES MATTER. We'll Be With You. your a weirdo pal. BURN LOOT MURDER is that what you stand for.
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Post by anchorman on Sept 13, 2020 11:03:31 GMT
Guernsey Dave. Calling Anchorman 'uneducated' etc is a little unfair.It's fine that there's a current Pride day, but decriminalization was enacted 16 years after the UK mainland and anti discrimination legislation is sketchy to say the least. Now his pro Tone perspective is arguably a little more problematic! Hopefully not too problematic Maine. I'm always proud to be pro Tone and always will be. I'm as pro TP as Pugs is anti TP. We all have our opinions & rightly so, however I can't stand the vitriol, bitterness & hatred of a man who gave us the best Stoke City days since Waddo. Having met him a couple of times and in my humble opinion he's a top man and I'm sure history will judge him kindly and rightly so.
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Post by anchorman on Sept 13, 2020 11:04:46 GMT
I for one am glad that it's on the screen every few minutes because maybe just maybe it might educate some folk. Black people, women & LGBT people are discriminated against in what is allegedly the democratic civilised west. And with right wing populist politics on the rise we need to stand up & stand together for minority groups. So carry on with the BLM campaign because it matters and BLACK LIVES MATTER. We'll Be With You. your a weirdo pal. BURN LOOT MURDER is that what you stand for. OMG. You poor man.
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Sept 13, 2020 11:28:53 GMT
Sport and politics are indivisible, surely everyone knows that.
And anyone who is offended by the BLM movement has to be racist, there is nothing controversial about the message.
And if you believe it is a violent protest movement you should educate yourself and stop reading the monstrous right wing media that dominate all discourse in British society.
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Post by songthrush01 on Sept 13, 2020 12:26:49 GMT
whos racist.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 13, 2020 12:42:25 GMT
I am almost certain I will regret asking this but why exactly is BLM bullshit? ALL lives matter though 🙄 You wouldn't think so if you read the Coronavirus thread. Chucking a few grannies under a bus so we don't have to wear masks is perfectly fine with some.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 13, 2020 12:44:54 GMT
Shit bin please. I am struggling to understand what this has to do with SCFC (or even what it is supposed to be about) Weekly football program, politics and an ex Stoke City manager. And it's about Sports and Politics being entwined (which it never should be) and an opinion. How difficult is that to understand. And why if you dont, should it be in the shit bin ? I await your erudite response with interest GD Any black people out there like to respond as to whether BLM is bullshit? Or do you just chuck it out there in a nice safe space for Priviledged White Males? (Note PWM's matter too).
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Post by elystokie on Sept 13, 2020 12:45:13 GMT
Surely not Roger Daltrey as well?
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Post by spitthedog on Sept 13, 2020 13:02:09 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Sept 13, 2020 13:26:52 GMT
It was on the afternoon soccer sports results show. Bottom right hand section of the screen. GD I for one am glad that it's on the screen every few minutes because maybe just maybe it might educate some folk. Black people, women & LGBT people are discriminated against in what is allegedly the democratic civilised west. And with right wing populist politics on the rise we need to stand up & stand together for minority groups. So carry on with the BLM campaign because it matters and BLACK LIVES MATTER. We'll Be With You. I'm not going into all of this again beyond this post as it's been done to death on the EE board and elsewhere. To quickly summarise, a lot of people cannot support BLM UK as they find their overall goals - beyond black rights - unpalatable. Look them up. I'll give you an example- they class the suffragettes as 'white supremacists'. They're crackpots. They've been savvy in calling themselves Black Lives Matter though, as the usual sheep will automatically see criticism of a group with this name as racist by default, without doing some research. I've no problem with No Room for Racism/Kick It Out etc and it should be these who Sky are endorsing, as the Premier League are. Even the BBC distanced itself from BLM UK. I still can't believe Sky haven't realised the irony in them endorsing a bunch of anti-capitalists 🤔 Oh, and Pulis is a twat.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 13, 2020 13:35:11 GMT
The ubiquitous use of the word 'gammon' is very irritating. In what world is it acceptable to try to shut down another person with an ad hominem attack based on their skin colour, age and gender? Is it so much to expect people to not be unpleasant to one another? I just see it as a reverse of snowflake, and my generation gets called that all the time, I don’t think you can argue either is that bad generations disagreeing with each other is a tale as old as time. Don’t take it to heart I find it funny as some of the angriest white folk around are lefties 😀
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Post by thevoid on Sept 13, 2020 13:36:38 GMT
Who is “Toxic tone”? In the last 60 years one of our most successful managers in my lifetime of watching SCFC. Would you disrespect Waddo, Durban, Lou? Absolutely not, as the three you name were loved by all Stokies. Toxic will never have that.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Sept 13, 2020 13:42:55 GMT
I just see it as a reverse of snowflake, and my generation gets called that all the time, I don’t think you can argue either is that bad generations disagreeing with each other is a tale as old as time. Don’t take it to heart I find it funny as some of the angriest white folk around are lefties 😀 If I’m being honest every group has its spanner’s that’s just people, most people in real life are reasonable enough even if they disagree on things
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 13, 2020 14:34:28 GMT
I just see it as a reverse of snowflake, and my generation gets called that all the time, I don’t think you can argue either is that bad generations disagreeing with each other is a tale as old as time. Don’t take it to heart I find it funny as some of the angriest white folk around are lefties 😀 Really? Cummings looks like he was born angry to me. And you've clearly never seen Trump lose his shit. Oh - and I suppose Adolf was renown for being a model of Zen like mindfulness...
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