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Post by Davef on Oct 6, 2020 17:42:44 GMT
The EFL have also tweeted a petition to the Government. Looks like patience is beginning to wear thin.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Oct 6, 2020 17:57:02 GMT
The EFL have also tweeted a petition to the Government. Looks like patience is beginning to wear thin. I've been following the numbers signing the petition all afternoon and it is going up quite rapidly, almost 80k now within a few hours. Hopefully this and the ongoing noise from all the Football authorities will start to make something happen. The silence from the govt on support for sports has been deafening, whereas every other industry is receiving some kind of support or allowance to open/trade.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Oct 6, 2020 19:39:30 GMT
The EFL have also tweeted a petition to the Government. Looks like patience is beginning to wear thin. I've been following the numbers signing the petition all afternoon and it is going up quite rapidly, almost 80k now within a few hours. Hopefully this and the ongoing noise from all the Football authorities will start to make something happen. The silence from the govt on support for sports has been deafening, whereas every other industry is receiving some kind of support or allowance to open/trade. It’s just gone over 100,000 signatures
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Oct 6, 2020 19:57:28 GMT
Whilst I share the frustration, anyone thinking its a good idea to go watch football live right now really needs to get some perspective.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2020 20:00:26 GMT
I’m missing it as much as anyone but not a prayer I’d even consider entering a football ground until probably next season now.
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Post by spiderpuss on Oct 6, 2020 20:07:39 GMT
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Post by Pugsley on Oct 6, 2020 20:14:27 GMT
Whilst I share the frustration, anyone thinking its a good idea to go watch football live right now really needs to get some perspective. Perspective on what?
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Post by werrington on Oct 6, 2020 20:30:04 GMT
Whilst I share the frustration, anyone thinking its a good idea to go watch football live right now really needs to get some perspective. In your opinion
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Oct 6, 2020 21:17:27 GMT
Whilst I share the frustration, anyone thinking its a good idea to go watch football live right now really needs to get some perspective. In your opinion ? Seriously
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Post by stokeuk474 on Oct 6, 2020 21:19:35 GMT
Whilst I share the frustration, anyone thinking its a good idea to go watch football live right now really needs to get some perspective. Why?
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Post by wearestoke80 on Oct 6, 2020 21:23:44 GMT
Really miss going pub before the game
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 6, 2020 21:26:13 GMT
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Post by walrus on Oct 6, 2020 21:29:57 GMT
How’s this for perspective: The average age of COVID death in the UK is 82. The life expectancy in England is 81. It’s a bad idea to shut down important aspects of society, causing enormous negative social and economic impacts, in order to slightly extend the lives of people who on average have already lived longer than most will.
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Post by andystokey on Oct 6, 2020 22:15:35 GMT
I’m missing it as much as anyone but not a prayer I’d even consider entering a football ground until probably next season now. I think that is your right and I support your personal choice. Depending on the measures in place I see attending a Covid restricted outdoor football match no more dangerous than other mixing which is currently allowed. I'd decide based on the measures. Ive attended before with 9000 and it would be ok. The loo on the M5 today was more congested.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Oct 6, 2020 22:19:02 GMT
How’s this for perspective: The average age of COVID death in the UK is 82. The life expectancy in England is 81. It’s a bad idea to shut down important aspects of society, causing enormous negative social and economic impacts, in order to slightly extend the lives of people who on average have already lived longer than most will. Please use some actual facts.....
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Post by andystokey on Oct 6, 2020 22:20:03 GMT
Seems like the big 3 organisations are going to push this hard together now Malcolm following today's petitions.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Oct 6, 2020 22:21:12 GMT
How’s this for perspective: The average age of COVID death in the UK is 82. The life expectancy in England is 81. It’s a bad idea to shut down important aspects of society, causing enormous negative social and economic impacts, in order to slightly extend the lives of people who on average have already lived longer than most will. Please use some actual facts..... Anyone over 50 should be concerned with COVID.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Oct 6, 2020 22:31:50 GMT
Seems like the big 3 organisations are going to push this hard together now Malcolm following today's petitions. Hopefully so, Andy. When you see the fiasco of, say, the 10 O'clock pub turnouts, I can understand why those in football who have worked so hard to come up with COVID safe arrangements at grounds, including Stoke City, feel a bit annoyed. I've just noticed that the Club have highlighted the letter on the Club website.
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Post by andystokey on Oct 6, 2020 22:36:42 GMT
Seems like the big 3 organisations are going to push this hard together now Malcolm following today's petitions. Hopefully so, Andy. When you see the fiasco of, say, the 10 O'clock pub turnouts, I can understand why those in football who have worked so hard to come up with COVID safe arrangements at grounds, including Stoke City, feel a bit annoyed. I've just noticed that the Club have highlighted the letter on the Club website. I think even if people decide not to (or can't) turn up every week in the usual numbers the ability to sell STs gives clubs a legitimate argument to Sky/BT to sell reduced priced streaming to ST holders.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Oct 6, 2020 22:43:34 GMT
If people want to stay locked away in their houses to stay safe then fine, good on you, but let the rest of society get on with their lives.
As has been said, you're more likely to get ill going shopping with the Mrs than going to a socially distanced match at a reduced capacity
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Post by StokieMatt on Oct 7, 2020 6:02:36 GMT
The fact cinemas are starting show live football is taking the piss, surely shouting and cheering will happen in a confined space but that is somehow better than a football ground?
Only issue I can see is for travelling home fans, not too bad for us but teams like Man Utd having support all over the country you might as well have away fans too.
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Post by westlandstokie on Oct 7, 2020 6:57:05 GMT
This letter is good to see but I personally cannot see fans back in stadiums on a regular basis until the new year at the earliest...maybe even not at all this season Can you imagine the uproar when after a couple of games a confirmed Covid case is linked to a football stadium. Im as keen as anyone to get back to live football at the Bet 365 (ST holder for 35 years) but I just can't see it happening any time soon
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Oct 7, 2020 7:16:12 GMT
I cannot see fans back in stadiums this season at all in fact i will be surprised if we see an end to this season without some kind of disruption due to covid still being very active.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Oct 7, 2020 7:20:49 GMT
Covid ravaged Paris has had 1,000 fans in each day for almost the past 2 weeks at Roland Garros. Surely football can start somewhere?
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Post by walrus on Oct 7, 2020 7:36:06 GMT
How’s this for perspective: The average age of COVID death in the UK is 82. The life expectancy in England is 81. It’s a bad idea to shut down important aspects of society, causing enormous negative social and economic impacts, in order to slightly extend the lives of people who on average have already lived longer than most will. Please use some actual facts..... Here are the latest figures for Scotland which is set to announce fresh restrictions today. They were published only yesterday. I can’t find data as fresh for England but it’s safe to assume a similar pattern. www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-scotland-54433305Average age of COVID death: 79 male, 84 female Life expectancy: 77.1 male, 82.1 female You can’t just dismiss something as “not actual facts” because you disagree with it politically.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Oct 7, 2020 7:39:39 GMT
136800 have signed now. If it results in controlled numbers then it will be a good thing. Signed.
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Post by Fred Ferret on Oct 7, 2020 8:11:23 GMT
Please use some actual facts..... Anyone over 50 should be concerned with COVID. Any adult should be concerned about COVID. Head-in-the-sand idiots partying in the streets, raves, and at university need to engage their brains. We now have a cliff-edge situation being driven by many fools (across a wide age range) in uncontrolled situations, with feeble sanctions and almost non-existent enforcement. At least controlled entry to games, well-spaced by seating, offers some modest move forward. My profile, 70, p/t Uni lecturer until this semester.
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Post by Davef on Oct 7, 2020 8:19:59 GMT
Please use some actual facts..... Anyone over 50 should be concerned with COVID. There are a lot of diseases people over 50 should be concerned about. Here's a fact for you; you have a miles better chance of surviving this virus than you do getting through cardiac arrest, heart attack or some of the horrible cancers you can develop. And the long term effects of those diseases as well as diabetes can have profound effects on your health if you do get through them. But let's all obsess with one virus.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 7, 2020 8:24:40 GMT
Anyone over 50 should be concerned with COVID. There are a lot of diseases people over 50 should be concerned about. Here's a fact for you; you have a miles better chance of surviving this virus than you do getting through cardiac arrest, heart attack or some of the horrible cancers you can develop. And the long term effects of those diseases as well as diabetes can have profound effects on your health if you do get through them. But let's all obsess with one virus. I agree in the main but we do not yet know what long term effects this virus will show, if any, either.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Oct 7, 2020 8:50:51 GMT
There are a lot of diseases people over 50 should be concerned about. Here's a fact for you; you have a miles better chance of surviving this virus than you do getting through cardiac arrest, heart attack or some of the horrible cancers you can develop. And the long term effects of those diseases as well as diabetes can have profound effects on your health if you do get through them. But let's all obsess with one virus. I agree in the main but we do not yet know what long term effects this virus will show, if any, either. So let's all sit in our houses and just wait to see what happens shall we? No thanks, I haven't got time for that, i'd actually like to go out and do the things I enjoy.
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