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Post by neddy on Aug 29, 2020 17:50:55 GMT
Glad there aren’t crowds there at the moment as the management would be taking some stick from away fans re the fire brigade outfit......I can see them singing fireman Sam 😂
I would ask for a change if I were them?
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 29, 2020 17:53:06 GMT
100% win record for the season. How many other teams can say that? Numerous. It was a draw pal
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Post by stokiejoe on Aug 29, 2020 17:53:33 GMT
Cheers, just tuned in after work, sounds like hard work. The only thing you missed was that we have a goalie who can save penalties. The game was dire, misplaced passes and pathetic attempts on goal. The major miracle was the way on one occasion we kept the ball from going in
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 29, 2020 17:54:41 GMT
The problem today was he didn't pick the right players for the system he played (352) McClean didn't do his defensive duties at Wing back meaning Bruno was pulled all over the place unsettling the back 3. Thompson isn't a holding midfielder which meant Powell and Clucas had to play more disciplined and deeper than they'd like. Gregory is shite and didn't get Afobe into the game as much as Fletcher or Vokes would have done. Smith was poor and was the opposite of McCLean in that he was solid defensively but offered nothing going forward. While not keen in the emotive word shit I agree with the sentiment , and in essence whatever the system he still needs to pick the players for it , rather than shoehorn the same players into a different system , McLean I like but he’s no wing back ,Thomson I thought was awful but O’Neil clearly didn’t or did and us backing his man , Smith is a right back nor a wing back , it’s all a bit Hughes and jones instead of players in their right spots , for me Edwards and tymon are the nearest we have to wing backs albeit I dint know fox . But for me I’d hope he’d pick the best players and choos3 a shape around them . For what it’s worth I think he will try different systems in the next two at games in parts at least but then , Go back to this at Millwall on the basis of his its difficult to beat comment Well I like the formation, I think it would work with the right players. Bauer and Fox can't be any worse than Smith or McClean and in the absence of Obi Mikel, Cousins is a better shout holding.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 29, 2020 18:00:24 GMT
Sounds like we were poor today but let’s be positive and look at the bigger picture.
- we’re slow starters. - today was more of a fitness test - we have improved our first 11 of a team that beat Brentford and Forest in our last 2 games of last season. - look where we were when Jones left
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 18:02:50 GMT
Our name's on the cup! To do so badly and still win can only mean that. History proves it... Surely our name is already on the cup as a previous winner? Unless we're competing for a different trophy these days. And you're satisfied with one cup in 167 years...? Actually it's a figure of speech common in footballspeak. Amazed you haven't heard, but given our paltry record of winning cups I guess you can be excused.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 18:04:14 GMT
The problem today was he didn't pick the right players for the system he played (352) McClean didn't do his defensive duties at Wing back meaning Bruno was pulled all over the place unsettling the back 3. Thompson isn't a holding midfielder which meant Powell and Clucas had to play more disciplined and deeper than they'd like. Gregory is shite and didn't get Afobe into the game as much as Fletcher or Vokes would have done. Smith was poor and was the opposite of McCLean in that he was solid defensively but offered nothing going forward. I was glad to hear the manager using the word "Poor" a few times in his post match assessment. Did he use it about himself/his choices?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 18:05:24 GMT
Sounds like we were poor today but let’s be positive and look at the bigger picture. - look where we were when Jones left We can no longer use that excuse. This is a new season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 18:07:00 GMT
Thompson isn't a holding midfielder Then what is Thompson?
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Post by Gary Hackett on Aug 29, 2020 18:13:49 GMT
Thompson isn't a holding midfielder Then what is Thompson? A player who would struggle to get in a league 1 team.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 29, 2020 18:14:53 GMT
Sounds like we were poor today but let’s be positive and look at the bigger picture. - look where we were when Jones left We can no longer use that excuse. This is a new season. Maybe so but unless I’m mistaken the new season hasn’t properly started yet let’s assess things after half a dozen games then pass judgement. There has been some worrying signs but people were probably saying the same things a few games after restart me included and look how things turned out.
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Post by citynickscfc on Aug 29, 2020 18:16:46 GMT
You know criticism isn't an insult right? Are you the type of person whom, when someone tells you to do better, you want to "give em one"? U started following stoke this season c**t You better be kidding me? You don't know me nor my history in school with fucking glory hunters etc, I'm not here to compare following sizes nor peni, go figure. I'm just not happy any more with championship shittery. We are wank and until we get pace we will still be wank
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Post by lordb on Aug 29, 2020 18:18:04 GMT
Thompson isn't a holding midfielder Then what is Thompson? One way who is developing. One who is good at passing, especially good at set pieces. Tackling and disciplined holding midfield play not good. Looked better alongside Allen. Cousins should have played I think
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2020 19:01:03 GMT
We can no longer use that excuse. This is a new season. Maybe so but unless I’m mistaken the new season hasn’t properly started yet let’s assess things after half a dozen games then pass judgement. There has been some worrying signs but people were probably saying the same things a few games after restart me included and look how things turned out. You're mistaken - along with 14 of our players - the new season started today. Regardless the only impact that Jones can still have on us is the players he signed, most of which are agreed to have come good in the latter part of last season.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 29, 2020 19:03:36 GMT
Maybe so but unless I’m mistaken the new season hasn’t properly started yet let’s assess things after half a dozen games then pass judgement. There has been some worrying signs but people were probably saying the same things a few games after restart me included and look how things turned out. You're mistaken - along with 14 of our players - the new season started today. Regardless the only impact that Jones can still have on us is the players he signed, most of which are agreed to have come good in the latter part of last season. Fair enough
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Post by Scrotnig on Aug 29, 2020 19:03:48 GMT
One 'poor performance' where we, like, won. We didn’t win the game we drew 0-0 and deserved to lose against a league one side Penalties is how the game is decided. We won according to the rules of the game we played. We are through to the next round. It may not be the greatest performance, I’m not arguing that. It’s just that we won.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Aug 29, 2020 19:13:38 GMT
100% win record for the season. How many other teams can say that? Numerous. It was a draw pal Both sides go through then?
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 29, 2020 19:26:44 GMT
Numerous. It was a draw pal Both sides go through then? No mate but we couldn't beat lower league opposition without a penalty shoot out.
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Post by ohbottom on Aug 29, 2020 19:42:02 GMT
Blackburn, Preston & Portsmouth. Although technically, only Blackburn & Preston actually won their games. WE are in the middle of a five game unbeaten run. It''s worth protecting. If we don't lose the next five we are on our way. To where? No idea.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Aug 29, 2020 19:43:07 GMT
Both sides go through then? No mate but we couldn't beat lower league opposition without a penalty shoot out. Would you be this fussy if we won the Champions League Final on penalties?
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 29, 2020 19:49:39 GMT
No mate but we couldn't beat lower league opposition without a penalty shoot out. Would you be this fussy if we won the Champions League Final on penalties? No comparison is it. In fairness it was friendly esque but refuse to either jizz or slit my wrists
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 29, 2020 19:59:47 GMT
I completely missed this one due to being busy with work stuff. I think I must've dozed off at some point, I had this weird dream that we won a penalty shoot out or something. Couldn't happen in real life, obviously. It happened at Leeds last season in the same competition. Butland scored the winning goal. Nathan Jones was the manager. You think I'm making this all up don't you?
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Post by wearestoke80 on Aug 29, 2020 20:40:34 GMT
Thompson isn't a holding midfielder Then what is Thompson? Thompson is wank
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Post by chuffedstokie on Aug 29, 2020 21:52:44 GMT
Cheers, just tuned in after work, sounds like hard work. The only thing you missed was that we have a goalie who can save penalties. The game was dire, misplaced passes and pathetic attempts on goal. The major miracle was the way on one occasion we kept the ball from going in Having now listened to MON and read some other analysis your description pretty much sums it up, ta.
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Post by stokest5 on Aug 29, 2020 22:59:15 GMT
You've missed your profession in life, flower. You're wasted with your million posts on an Internet message board. Sat at home every single day, posting negative, boring as fuck, arse gravy. Somebody tell O'Neill there's a new sheriff in town. And he sits in his pants all day, every day, posting shit on the Internet. The man is a fucking genius. He spouts a lot of sense though, at times. We are so devoid of pace, and you say its just 2 weeks of preseason.....it was a competitive fixture and we were fookin woeful We’ve been devoid of pace for god knows how long now! Numerous managers come in and none address it!
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 30, 2020 0:16:35 GMT
Surely our name is already on the cup as a previous winner? Unless we're competing for a different trophy these days. And you're satisfied with one cup in 167 years...? Actually it's a figure of speech common in footballspeak. Amazed you haven't heard, but given our paltry record of winning cups I guess you can be excused. ONE CUP You're memory is short Two auto windshield cups The watney Mann trophy The Isle of Man trophy three times Division two (now known as the championship) champions three times May I suggest if its glory you require you need to amble a few miles past Vale Park
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 30, 2020 0:27:42 GMT
And you're satisfied with one cup in 167 years...? Actually it's a figure of speech common in footballspeak. Amazed you haven't heard, but given our paltry record of winning cups I guess you can be excused. ONE CUP You're memory is short Two auto windshield cups The watney Mann trophy The Isle of Man trophy three times Division two (now known as the championship) champions three times May I suggest if its glory you require you need to amble a few miles past Vale Park Has to be the worst haul for a club of our size and if not the worst, up there with the worst.
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Post by hotpot on Aug 30, 2020 1:04:18 GMT
MON seems to have given most of this lot their last chance. For him to call their performance "poor" is a good indication that he wants quite a few gone as soon as possible. Only 25 will make the cut , MON knows that by getting rid of half this line-up, he can bring in a few more better players. This was another dismal performance and against a ordinary League One side. Blind Freddy would have gone home by halftime.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 30, 2020 1:32:14 GMT
Sounds like we were poor today but let’s be positive and look at the bigger picture. - we’re slow starters. (Not acceptable season after season) - today was more of a fitness test (No it wasn't on many fronts) - we have improved our first 11 of a team that beat Brentford and Forest in our last 2 games of last season. (Really, Cobs, have we?) - look where we were when Jones left (You were peddling the same type of posts last summer)
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 30, 2020 5:58:28 GMT
Sounds like we were poor today but let’s be positive and look at the bigger picture. - we’re slow starters. (Not acceptable season after season) - today was more of a fitness test (No it wasn't on many fronts) - we have improved our first 11 of a team that beat Brentford and Forest in our last 2 games of last season. (Really, Cobs, have we?) - look where we were when Jones left (You were peddling the same type of posts last summer) In relation to bringing in Mickel, Fletcher and Fox yes I think we have improved our first 11 yes. Where do you think we’ll finish this season then? The difference between MON and Jones is huge. MON has already proved he can at least win games.
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