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Post by alanhudson1972 on Aug 27, 2020 19:56:40 GMT
They're all fekkin shite, especially that boring cunt Tyler and the bin dipper Carragher, please take me back to the 70s and 80s and the pure effortless commentary of the likes of Brian Moore, Hugh Johns, Gerard Sinstadt, Kenneth Wolstenholme and such, these gents were pure joyous class at commentary and in how to host a football programme, the complete and utter opposite of all the boring parasitic wank stains that blight the modern game, fuck em all off.
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Post by baystokie on Aug 27, 2020 19:56:53 GMT
Not footy, but Richie Benaud was the master of saying everything by saying absolutely nothing. I feel it’s something people like Fletcher could learn a lot from, not every second on air has to be filled, and not every goal has to be the most dramatic thing on Earth. Those commentators who learned their trade on radio often seem to be the best on TV. Strange they learned through talking and painting pictures that they realised that TV doesn't need their stating the bleeding obvious. Arlott and Benaud; O'Sullevan, Brian Moore, Peter Alliss and Henry Longhurst - their radio journalistic education enabled them to be sparse with words. Still have the shivers thinking of bozos like Alan Green.
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Post by alanhudson1972 on Aug 27, 2020 20:00:35 GMT
Not footy, but Richie Benaud was the master of saying everything by saying absolutely nothing. I feel it’s something people like Fletcher could learn a lot from, not every second on air has to be filled, and not every goal has to be the most dramatic thing on Earth. Those commentators who learned their trade on radio often seem to be the best on TV. Strange they learned through talking and painting pictures that they realised that TV doesn't need their stating the bleeding obvious. Arlott and Benaud; O'Sullevan, Brian Moore, Peter Alliss and Henry Longhurst - their radio journalistic education enabled them to be sparse with words. Still have the shivers thinking of bozos like Alan Green. ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ This, including the wonderful Brian Johnston and all the old TMS team, simply sublime. 🏏
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Post by lordb on Aug 27, 2020 20:06:37 GMT
Not footy, but Richie Benaud was the master of saying everything by saying absolutely nothing. I feel it’s something people like Fletcher could learn a lot from, not every second on air has to be filled, and not every goal has to be the most dramatic thing on Earth. Those commentators who learned their trade on radio often seem to be the best on TV. Strange they learned through talking and painting pictures that they realised that TV doesn't need their stating the bleeding obvious. Arlott and Benaud; O'Sullevan, Brian Moore, Peter Alliss and Henry Longhurst - their radio journalistic education enabled them to be sparse with words. Still have the shivers thinking of bozos like Alan Green. Also lots of bad pundits/commentators from TV are really good on the radio E.g. David Pleat, terrible on the telly fantastic on the radio Motson better on the radio Even Andy Townshend, who is clearly a nice guy but pants on the box is good on the radio
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 27, 2020 20:09:26 GMT
They're all fekkin shite, especially that boring cunt Tyler and the bin dipper Carragher, please take me back to the 70s and 80s and the pure effortless commentary of the likes of Brian Moore, Hugh Johns, Gerard Sinstadt, Kenneth Wolstenholme and such, these gents were pure joyous class at commentary and in how to host a football programme, the complete and utter opposite of all the boring parasitic wank stains that blight the modern game, fuck em all off. Sinstadt was wank (which, somewhat coincidentally, was also his hobby). Tony Gubba all the way.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 27, 2020 20:12:18 GMT
Barry Davies? Thought he was always more suited to Show Jumping and all that shite stuff at the olympics but the more I hear of his old football commentary the more I think he was alright
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Post by lordb on Aug 27, 2020 20:13:16 GMT
Barry Davies? Thought he was always more suited to Show Jumping and all that shite stuff at the olympics but the more I hear of his old football commentary the more I think he was alright He was excellent Lost his enthusiasm
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 27, 2020 20:13:45 GMT
Seeing as the Soccer Saturday thread has been canned, thought I’d start a new one regarding people’s thoughts on punditry, commentating etc. Who are the best/worst at the moment and for the hell of it, all time? I realise I'm going a bit off-topic but I love a commentator who gets a bit lost in the moment, especially when you get a jumbling of words & a voice break! (Dunno who that fella is but it popped up in my Youtube recommended's the other day so I've spyed my chance to post it!)
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 27, 2020 20:17:19 GMT
Seeing as the Soccer Saturday thread has been canned, thought I’d start a new one regarding people’s thoughts on punditry, commentating etc. Who are the best/worst at the moment and for the hell of it, all time? I realise I'm going a bit off-topic but I love a commentator who gets a bit lost in the moment, especially when you get a jumbling of words & a voice break! (Dunno who that fella is but it popped up in my Youtube recommended's the other day so I've spyed my chance to post it!) Absolutely iconic that is. You won’t get a better “let’s go to the ground” than that!!! Imagine if Kamara was doing that game, he wouldn’t know what the feck was going on
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Post by lordb on Aug 27, 2020 20:20:17 GMT
I realise I'm going a bit off-topic but I love a commentator who gets a bit lost in the moment, especially when you get a jumbling of words & a voice break! (Dunno who that fella is but it popped up in my Youtube recommended's the other day so I've spyed my chance to post it!) Absolutely iconic that is. You won’t get a better “let’s go to the ground” than that!!! Imagine if Kamara was doing that game, he wouldn’t know what the feck was going on I was actually watching that at the time There was a very similar one Brentford v Doncaster, that was a key game too
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Aug 27, 2020 20:47:05 GMT
Carpenter,usually impeccably balanced and impartial,losing it in one of my favourite moments of commentary:
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Post by str8outtahampton on Aug 27, 2020 20:47:46 GMT
Those commentators who learned their trade on radio often seem to be the best on TV. Strange they learned through talking and painting pictures that they realised that TV doesn't need their stating the bleeding obvious. Arlott and Benaud; O'Sullevan, Brian Moore, Peter Alliss and Henry Longhurst - their radio journalistic education enabled them to be sparse with words. Still have the shivers thinking of bozos like Alan Green. ⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️⬆️ This, including the wonderful Brian Johnston and all the old TMS team, simply sublime. 🏏 It's interesting. Radio self-evidently needs a commentary. Although only a commentary - no numpty punditry. And I agree that those mentioned above were in a different class. (Although not Peter Alliss). But TV? For example, when was the last time you were actually at a match and thought: "Yeah it's OK. But what would really complete the experience is someone telling me what I can see is happening".
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Aug 27, 2020 20:51:26 GMT
Incomparable Barry Davies:
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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 27, 2020 21:10:48 GMT
Not footy, but Richie Benaud was the master of saying everything by saying absolutely nothing. I feel it’s something people like Fletcher could learn a lot from, not every second on air has to be filled, and not every goal has to be the most dramatic thing on Earth. Shane Warne was out for eight runs. Benaud said "Warne leaves the crease 92 runs short of his century" 😀😀
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 21:14:58 GMT
Peter Alliss is just brilliant on the golf and I listen to a lot of 5 live cricket and like most of the cricket commentators and pundits. Special mention to Alison Mitchell, not just the token female, really holds her own.
Can't think of any standouts in football. Think to they're all a bit meh.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 27, 2020 21:56:10 GMT
Agree, very knowledgeable too. Totally Football Show is a joy to listen to because of his anchoring skills. What's that on? It’s a podcast, free to listen to on most of the usual providers like Spotify etc. Generally Richardson and a rotating panel of journalists from The Athletic and a few other places. Also has a European edition with a focus on the Spanish, French, Italian and German leagues. Can’t speak highly enough of it.
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Post by alanhudson1972 on Aug 27, 2020 22:09:01 GMT
They're all fekkin shite, especially that boring cunt Tyler and the bin dipper Carragher, please take me back to the 70s and 80s and the pure effortless commentary of the likes of Brian Moore, Hugh Johns, Gerard Sinstadt, Kenneth Wolstenholme and such, these gents were pure joyous class at commentary and in how to host a football programme, the complete and utter opposite of all the boring parasitic wank stains that blight the modern game, fuck em all off. Sinstadt was wank (which, somewhat coincidentally, was also his hobby). Tony Gubba all the way. But probably never had a 'tommy the tank' over any Stoke City performances I would suspect.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 27, 2020 22:12:03 GMT
How’s about Murray Walker on F1? The guy who does it now tries to sound like him. I’ve wondered if it’s his son or something but never been arsed to look it up as I’ve lost interest after two laps
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 27, 2020 23:00:33 GMT
Sinstadt was wank (which, somewhat coincidentally, was also his hobby). Tony Gubba all the way. But probably never had a 'tommy the tank' over any Stoke City performances I would suspect. He lives in Trentham does Sinstadt. Whether he has a home cinema in which to furiously masturbate is unconfirmed.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Aug 27, 2020 23:34:30 GMT
One of the most poignant segments of commentary,in unimaginably difficult circumstances,you're likely to hear,imho:
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Post by skip on Aug 28, 2020 0:23:19 GMT
Half relatedly, earlier this evening as I was driving through the pouring rain, in between CD changes I had BBC Five Live tuned in/on, and I think it was Sonja McLaughlan who was discussing changes in laws in Rugby Union with two or three retired players. They were discussing the changes to the laws of the game brought in with the aim to reduce violence and player injury. Anyway, the point was that everyone was articulate and the discussion erudite and fascinating. Can't say I've heard anything approaching this informative and easy to understand and ruminate upon in terms of issues of the day to do with (proper) football. I have a passing interest in rugby at best but was happy to listen to the end, as it was really good. I can't think of anyone outside of perhaps Gary Neville who could bring anything to the table anywhere close to their level of discussion and insights of football.
Footnote: CD artistes - Little Simz and Renegade Soundwave.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Aug 28, 2020 0:30:10 GMT
Ebony Rainford-Brent and Michael Holding have had an excellent summer with the cricket. Stand out cricket commentator is Ian Smith. Neville is in a whole league of his own in terms up punditry on football. Personal choice but Martin Tyler is horrific to listen to. Smith is absolutely box office. On fire in high tension but capable of the laconic, raconteur style cricket needs too. Goosebumps, absolutely incredible
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Post by ab61 on Aug 28, 2020 8:39:55 GMT
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Post by alanhudson1972 on Aug 28, 2020 8:42:24 GMT
But probably never had a 'tommy the tank' over any Stoke City performances I would suspect. He lives in Trentham does Sinstadt. Whether he has a home cinema in which to furiously masturbate is unconfirmed. Everyone needs a hobby, and perpetual wanking aside, good old Gerald was of the era of great local commentators and of legendary masturbators too it would seem, incidentally the German word for city is Stadt, thus translating his surname in to 'Sin City' so 'Gerald Sin-City' it is, I wonder if he was born and raised in Hamburg ? 🍔😁
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Post by wrighter on Aug 28, 2020 9:24:27 GMT
any women pundit who seem to be in the throes of a mega orgasm when someone scores !!
cant stand ; Mc Manaman,; Tydlesley [ rooonneeeeeeeyyy]; Wright; Ferdinand, Morrison;
i like G Neville; Murphy, Peter Allis, Johners[RIP]
+ kelly cates, alex scott, gabby logan, kelly somers, all 4 id love to be in an orgy with me, taking in turns to rag them rotten
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 28, 2020 9:28:58 GMT
Ebony Rainford-Brent and Michael Holding have had an excellent summer with the cricket. Stand out cricket commentator is Ian Smith. Neville is in a whole league of his own in terms up punditry on football. Personal choice but Martin Tyler is horrific to listen to. I find Ebony really fucking dull. There’s no life in her voice.
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Post by thepremierbanksy on Aug 28, 2020 10:23:43 GMT
Pat Nevin is great as either commentator or pundit. Insightful, funny, plenty to say and has an obvious love for the game and a good deal of levity.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 28, 2020 10:27:32 GMT
Pat Nevin is great as either commentator or pundit. Insightful, funny, plenty to say and has an obvious love for the game and a good deal of levity. Speaking of Scots I find Ally McCoist really good, knows plenty about the game and brings good humour. Think he’s currently commentating on the SPL so it’s a good job he’s got a good sense of humour!
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Post by outspaced on Aug 28, 2020 10:33:12 GMT
One of the most poignant segments of commentary,in unimaginably difficult circumstances,you're likely to hear,imho: Peter Jones was THE voice of radio commentary when I was growing up. Him and Bryon Butler were the ultimate professionals. Nobody now comes close. That Hillsborough segment makes you shiver.
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Post by marylandstoke on Aug 28, 2020 13:54:28 GMT
Not footy, but Richie Benaud was the master of saying everything by saying absolutely nothing. I feel it’s something people like Fletcher could learn a lot from, not every second on air has to be filled, and not every goal has to be the most dramatic thing on Earth. Those commentators who learned their trade on radio often seem to be the best on TV. Strange they learned through talking and painting pictures that they realised that TV doesn't need their stating the bleeding obvious. Arlott and Benaud; O'Sullevan, Brian Moore, Peter Alliss and Henry Longhurst - their radio journalistic education enabled them to be sparse with words. Still have the shivers thinking of bozos like Alan Green. Arlott said he had it planned and hoped it would happen. Hazy memory says it was a County Championship game when he uttered the immortal Rice bowls and Paddy fields
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