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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 7, 2020 15:39:53 GMT
If you have A, D and E sorted, that means you've more or less got "Desire" by U2 nailed.
Really simple, but sounds more impressive to others than it is, simply because it's a pretty recognisable song.
Three chords, MM? Sounds like wacky prog rock to me.
All you need for a classic are two - E & A
E to the A you say? Save a horse ride a Cowboy..Big and Rich
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Post by thequietman on Sept 8, 2020 11:15:18 GMT
Three chords, MM? Sounds like wacky prog rock to me.
All you need for a classic are two - E & A
E to the A you say? Save a horse ride a Cowboy..Big and Rich How about going for an ambitious 4 chords ... but every one of them requires maxium 2 fingers?
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Post by marylandstoke on Sept 8, 2020 12:00:10 GMT
E to the A you say? Save a horse ride a Cowboy..Big and Rich How about going for an ambitious 4 chords ... but every one of them requires maxium 2 fingers?
Yeah but then you have to listen to a horse with no name! sus2 chords for 2 finger mastery?
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Post by thequietman on Sept 8, 2020 12:39:04 GMT
How about going for an ambitious 4 chords ... but every one of them requires maxium 2 fingers?
Yeah but then you have to listen to a horse with no name! sus2 chords for 2 finger mastery? Fair enough. it can be a bit soporific.
sus2 - oh yeah! Csus2, Dsus2, Asus2 - lovely chords. They make you sound like a folky guitar genius if you play those rather than the majors.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Jan 11, 2021 12:48:29 GMT
There is no point in lying. I'm really struggling with the Chord changes. My fingers just can't react to find the exact chords quick enough.
Anyone else found this. I watched numerous youtube videos. Just can't grasp it. Maybe it's a tutor thing that is needed.
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Post by eddyclamp on Jan 11, 2021 18:10:05 GMT
There is no point in lying. I'm really struggling with the Chord changes. My fingers just can't react to find the exact chords quick enough. Anyone else found this. I watched numerous youtube videos. Just can't grasp it. Maybe it's a tutor thing that is needed. Try 2 chords close together and go back and forth. Don’t go for speed go for clarity , keep working on it and the fluency should come. It’s all about patience and practice. I was told the first 12 months are the hardest and it’s true
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Post by dave1 on Jan 11, 2021 18:19:11 GMT
There is no point in lying. I'm really struggling with the Chord changes. My fingers just can't react to find the exact chords quick enough. Anyone else found this. I watched numerous youtube videos. Just can't grasp it. Maybe it's a tutor thing that is needed. Aup mate. I'm still going at it- getting better. Can play stand by me, brimful of asha etc. I was a complete novice- if I can do it anyone can. Have you got a book? I find that easier than YouTube (can send you details if need be). Tells you the chords strumming patterns etc- makes it alot easier. I also have half hour weekly lessons- massive help!!! Keep going at it pal
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jan 12, 2021 8:19:25 GMT
There is no point in lying. I'm really struggling with the Chord changes. My fingers just can't react to find the exact chords quick enough. Anyone else found this. I watched numerous youtube videos. Just can't grasp it. Maybe it's a tutor thing that is needed. Try 2 chords close together and go back and forth. Don’t go for speed go for clarity , keep working on it and the fluency should come. It’s all about patience and practice. I was told the first 12 months are the hardest and it’s true Good advice. Try to practice for a few minutes daily rather than longer less frequent sessions. And record yourself and listen back months later, you will be better! The first 12 months is right, thereafter your brain kind of "accepts" what your hands are trying to do and it takes less time to pick up new chords. Good luck!
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Post by wagsastokie on Jan 12, 2021 8:48:49 GMT
How about going for an ambitious 4 chords ... but every one of them requires maxium 2 fingers? Yeah but then you have to listen to a horse with no name! sus2 chords for 2 finger mastery? One of my favourite songs
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 12, 2021 8:51:05 GMT
Stick it in the corner of a room where people will see it, have the plectrum going through the strings so it looks like you play it all the time. That's what I did with mine. 😃 Brilliant. You old smoothie 😉
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Post by boydcrowder on Jan 12, 2021 9:53:39 GMT
There’s some great tutorials on you tube 👍 YouTube is definitely your friend. YouTube, practice and realistic expectations. Anything you play will sound shit for the first six months. Also be aware that, no matter how good you get, non-musicians will not appreciate the achievement of learning to play complicated stuff so don't be disheartened by apathy from your family. Stick at it though because if you learn an instrument and enjoy it, you'll never be bored.
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Post by Timmypotter on Jan 12, 2021 15:48:06 GMT
Yeah but then you have to listen to a horse with no name! sus2 chords for 2 finger mastery? Fair enough. it can be a bit soporific. sus2 - oh yeah! Csus2, Dsus2, Asus2 - lovely chords. They make you sound like a folky guitar genius if you play those rather than the majors. Oasis - wonderwall. A full 4 fingers required but only 2 of them moving in the verse/chorus and always next to each other. I remember that being a massive confidence boost when I was first learning as it's easy to get it sounding like the record. www.musikalessons.com/blog/2016/07/wonderwall-chords/a nice easy bridge too using chords you'll most likely be used to. EDIT - drop the D (tune your lowest string down from E to D) and Bon Jovi - Wanted Dead or Alive is another easy song to learn as a beginner. Forget the picked intro and smash out the verse and chorus. The intro is a good introduction to picking out a tune when you're ready.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 12, 2021 16:12:29 GMT
Have played for over 30 years, but 29.9 of them have been on electric because I'm a "string-bender" type of player, which is much easier to do on electric. Good news is, once you get to where you can do at least minimal chord-changes on the acoustic, it makes playing the electric so much easier. Like they said earlier - pick like a G and A chord and get to where you can jump back and forth between them without really thinking. Then add in a D chord and you can play a ton of songs just with those. Another good and easier chord is A-Minor. (Just look it up and play it - you'll see) It takes a long time, so stick with it. Down the road, as you build up strength in your fingers and hands, work on trying to develop a "play with ease" style - only push down and grip the neck as hard as required. This is necessary to start building up speed. (Can't be very fast if you have a death-grip on the neck) But for right now - don't worry about speed, cool riffs or anything like that - get the basic chords mastered and don't listen to critics. Most of them are full of sh**. And yeah I remember my fingers hurting. I used to have to put super-glue on my finger tips when I played in club bands 3 nights a week. (It cauterizes the cuts from the strings and gives you a tough layer between your sore fingers and the strings) Somehow I managed to never super-glue myself to a guitar and I only did this when my fingertips were damaged and we HAD to play that night. Otherwise, take a break until they heal up, nothing wrong with that. You will eventually get to a point that you don't have to do any of that, the calluses will build up enough.
Listen to music and parrot it. A good "ear" is critical and you will develop it with practice - it's quite satisfying to figure out a song you like and that will keep you playing for years. Also, learn varying types of music - this will "stretch" your ability, appreciation and satisfaction. And just know - you will hit several "Plateaus" where you just don't think you are going to get any better. But you persist - that's what makes a guitar player. It's a journey.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Jan 12, 2021 16:54:22 GMT
Thanks for all your advice chaps. Will keep at it and follow what you all said. 👍🎸
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Post by musik on Jan 12, 2021 17:32:53 GMT
Today I've been listening to John Fahey and Lenny Breau and got inspired.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 12, 2021 17:55:28 GMT
Oh one more: Don't be in any rush to go electric. It can lead to a lot of wasted money on amps, effects, cables etc. etc. (Personal Experience) If you do decide to go electric later, do a TON of research first. Even when upgrading your acoustic - again, do a TON of research. Go into stores and actually play the guitar you think you want. Until it's in your hands you have no idea whether or not it will work for you. You can also get cheap tuners that clip on your headstock. After several years of tuning like that, you will probably be able to tune guitars by ear. (But I still use tuners - they're faster) Learn how to re-string your guitar and care for it (YouTube will show you how) One way to know when you need new strings is they start to sound "clangy" and are hard to keep in tune. (Or they'll just flat-out break)
Lastly...avoid at all costs contracting GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). This is an affliction where you constantly can't live without buying more gear, either guitars or accessories. I'm a GASaholic and the struggle is real every day. I tried joining a support group on a forum, but we all just ended up wanting more gear because to talk about your problem, you have to say what you wanted to buy, that causes other patients to say, "Oh I want one of those too!"
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Post by Timmypotter on Jan 13, 2021 11:47:28 GMT
Oh one more: Don't be in any rush to go electric. It can lead to a lot of wasted money on amps, effects, cables etc. etc. (Personal Experience) If you do decide to go electric later, do a TON of research first. Even when upgrading your acoustic - again, do a TON of research. Go into stores and actually play the guitar you think you want. Until it's in your hands you have no idea whether or not it will work for you. You can also get cheap tuners that clip on your headstock. After several years of tuning like that, you will probably be able to tune guitars by ear. (But I still use tuners - they're faster) Learn how to re-string your guitar and care for it (YouTube will show you how) One way to know when you need new strings is they start to sound "clangy" and are hard to keep in tune. (Or they'll just flat-out break) Lastly...avoid at all costs contracting GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). This is an affliction where you constantly can't live without buying more gear, either guitars or accessories. I'm a GASaholic and the struggle is real every day. I tried joining a support group on a forum, but we all just ended up wanting more gear because to talk about your problem, you have to say what you wanted to buy, that causes other patients to say, "Oh I want one of those too!" A good mate of mine is a major GAS sufferer. He had to buy a house with a separate annexe just to keep guitars, amps and other kit. I reckon he must have spent well over £150,000 over the last 20 years - at the last count he had more than 100 guitars. The stupid thing is though, 90% of the time he only plays his favourite Martin or his favourite Gibson SG.
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jan 13, 2021 11:55:01 GMT
Have played for over 30 years, but 29.9 of them have been on electric because I'm a "string-bender" type of player, which is much easier to do on electric. Good news is, once you get to where you can do at least minimal chord-changes on the acoustic, it makes playing the electric so much easier. Like they said earlier - pick like a G and A chord and get to where you can jump back and forth between them without really thinking. Then add in a D chord and you can play a ton of songs just with those. Another good and easier chord is A-Minor. (Just look it up and play it - you'll see) It takes a long time, so stick with it. Down the road, as you build up strength in your fingers and hands, work on trying to develop a "play with ease" style - only push down and grip the neck as hard as required. This is necessary to start building up speed. (Can't be very fast if you have a death-grip on the neck) But for right now - don't worry about speed, cool riffs or anything like that - get the basic chords mastered and don't listen to critics. Most of them are full of sh**. And yeah I remember my fingers hurting. I used to have to put super-glue on my finger tips when I played in club bands 3 nights a week. (It cauterizes the cuts from the strings and gives you a tough layer between your sore fingers and the strings) Somehow I managed to never super-glue myself to a guitar and I only did this when my fingertips were damaged and we HAD to play that night. Otherwise, take a break until they heal up, nothing wrong with that. You will eventually get to a point that you don't have to do any of that, the calluses will build up enough. Listen to music and parrot it. A good "ear" is critical and you will develop it with practice - it's quite satisfying to figure out a song you like and that will keep you playing for years. Also, learn varying types of music - this will "stretch" your ability, appreciation and satisfaction. And just know - you will hit several "Plateaus" where you just don't think you are going to get any better. But you persist - that's what makes a guitar player. It's a journey. SRV used to superglue the fingers of his fretting hand to the his right forearm,then rip them away so he had super-added layers of skin on his fingertips,but then he did play with a very high action and heavy gauge strings. Must've had Herculean strength in his fingers...
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Jan 13, 2021 13:02:09 GMT
FYI most guitar shops are still open via click and collect. I completely knackered my new Ibanez, these Floyd Rose things the new models have are a nightmare.
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Post by marylandstoke on Jan 13, 2021 13:33:32 GMT
Oh one more: Don't be in any rush to go electric. It can lead to a lot of wasted money on amps, effects, cables etc. etc. (Personal Experience) If you do decide to go electric later, do a TON of research first. Even when upgrading your acoustic - again, do a TON of research. Go into stores and actually play the guitar you think you want. Until it's in your hands you have no idea whether or not it will work for you. You can also get cheap tuners that clip on your headstock. After several years of tuning like that, you will probably be able to tune guitars by ear. (But I still use tuners - they're faster) Learn how to re-string your guitar and care for it (YouTube will show you how) One way to know when you need new strings is they start to sound "clangy" and are hard to keep in tune. (Or they'll just flat-out break) Lastly...avoid at all costs contracting GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome). This is an affliction where you constantly can't live without buying more gear, either guitars or accessories. I'm a GASaholic and the struggle is real every day. I tried joining a support group on a forum, but we all just ended up wanting more gear because to talk about your problem, you have to say what you wanted to buy, that causes other patients to say, "Oh I want one of those too!" And as a recovering guitar therapist I will wager a pound to a banana that it was the pedals wasn’t it? Just one more fx pedal will fix it.
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Post by dirtclod on Jan 13, 2021 14:51:02 GMT
You win MarylandStoke just one more pedal...for the road. This is the last one...I swear! I'm currently looking over from the computer at my pedalboard, which is the size of a small Naval destroyer. Spent years adding/removing pedals buying/selling amps to get to the "perfect" set up for me, which I finally achieved. 1 week later, I started playing at a gig where, due to many reasons it is required to use a multi-effects system. Up til now, I have hated those things. But...I discovered the Helix system and play it through a studio monitor. It is a huge learning-curve to create the right profiles but once achieved, it's worth it. I wish I would have discovered it years ago! So now I only use the pedalboard/amp. (AC30 with Blue Celestions) at home or at gigs where I have the room. Will never completely get rid of my tube amps. Guitars - For years, all I'd play was Gibson Les Pauls...then I switched. Now have 3 Fender electrics, an Ibanez electric and 1 acoustic and have had all of those for about 4 years now and I play all the Fenders regularly and the Ibanez on occasion.
SuperSimon - Yes SRV's hand-strength must have been on a par with Bruce Lee. And the imagination in the song-writing! A very rare combination of creativity/talent.
Timmypotter - That is a bad case of GAS!! I have a friend the same way - he must be sponsored by a drug-cartel and is stockpiling for an upcoming Guitar-War. Everything he owns is all hyper-expensive with few exceptions. So what does he play 99% of the time? A stock Mexican Fender Telecaster he's owned for years. I've tried without success to discuss buying a couple of his other guitars - he won't even discuss it.
But yeah, I'd have to say the thing I've spent the most on over the years? Pedals.
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