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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 18:23:31 GMT
Just to make sure players have no confidence when the season starts. We have improved, like nothing, they have an even better team. Early tip? 10-0. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 18:25:14 GMT
I thought it was decent for a friendly, plenty for mon to think about I agree. The last 2 games will go someway for MON to decide who he doeasn't want in the 25. We need to get games against teams that pose a threat. Looks like the club weren't going to risk Butland getting injured. Yeah that's going to work wonders. Nobody from today's team surely, and definitely nobody from last week's team. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 22, 2020 18:44:52 GMT
Why would they? They had no post lock down league games - they may have been training for over a month for all we know. We were playing league games a month ago so we should in theory be closer to match fitness then being as everyone says matches get you fitter Yes, but we have had a gap of a couple of weeks with no matches and no training between the end of the season and the start of preseason. Burton will have probably started their preseason training whilst we were still in our league season and not had a gap since then. So they should be physically fitter even if they are not any more match fit than us. |
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Post by jwhpotter on Aug 22, 2020 18:45:58 GMT
Wow how bad was that! Result means nothing but we need to get some sort of spark going This 'The result doesn't matter', is rubbish. The result always matters, whether it's a friendly or not. Do you play to lose, or to win? The end result is what matters in anything. So, the result does matter. It's the yardstick by which you measure your ability. We lost today because we weren't good enough. Whether that's ability or fitness, you decide. Hmm... have teams ever lost a few pre season game then gone on to have a good season? Yes, yes they have, always better to win obviously but the result doesn’t matter. It matters next Saturday when we try get to the second round of the league cup |
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 22, 2020 18:55:50 GMT
I remember us being wank in the last 3 pre-seasons and they were followed by 3 equally wank seasons. I Remember season 95-96 season I think , we won every pre season friendly , won one in the next 8 in the league 🤷🏼♂️ I remember the promotion season under Lou we lost every pre season game including Newcastle town game. |
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Post by neddy on Aug 22, 2020 19:07:16 GMT
As a slight positive I thought the two full backs looked ok and I like to see Powell...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 19:13:49 GMT
In contrast we lost every single game pre-season 96-97 If I’m correct , then won the first 3 games of the season The results mean fuck all, how the manager goes about them is the worry, surely we should be using the formation we plan to use in the season to help the players get used to it etc and so far if this is what he's planing those predicting promotion are going to be in for a shock. It’s not a worry in the slightest, it’s a glorified kick about and an exercise in getting players game time. You keep putting the boot in on O’Neill like he’s not already shown he knows what he’s doing..... |
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Post by slicko on Aug 22, 2020 19:14:15 GMT
Attachment DeletedPresumably, these are going to be watchable from the perimeter fence at Claytonwood. Does anyone know differently?
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Post by dudnostokie on Aug 22, 2020 19:20:21 GMT
As a slight positive I thought the two full backs looked ok and I like to see Powell... Thought Fox had a good game  |
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 22, 2020 19:29:34 GMT
I Remember season 95-96 season I think , we won every pre season friendly , won one in the next 8 in the league 🤷🏼♂️ I remember the promotion season under Lou we lost every pre season game including Newcastle town game. That’s the season I’m probably thinking of to be honest 👍 |
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 22, 2020 19:31:50 GMT
I thought the way we moved the ball around news really poor, Thompson again was the smoothest on the pitch, he didn't do much to affect the game but looked better on the ball than the rest. Several players like him with his passing ability and we would be probing around the 18 yard box.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2020 19:35:19 GMT
The results mean fuck all, how the manager goes about them is the worry, surely we should be using the formation we plan to use in the season to help the players get used to it etc and so far if this is what he's planing those predicting promotion are going to be in for a shock. It’s not a worry in the slightest, it’s a glorified kick about and an exercise in getting players game time. You keep putting the boot in on O’Neill like he’s not already shown he knows what he’s doing..... I'm not putting the boot in but the red flags haven't gone anywhere, they're still flying for all to see, I'm just not as convinced as some seem to be. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2020 19:36:06 GMT
As a slight positive I thought the two full backs looked ok and I like to see Powell... Thought Fox had a good game He got into the game well after a very dodgy first 10/15. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 19:38:12 GMT
It’s not a worry in the slightest, it’s a glorified kick about and an exercise in getting players game time. You keep putting the boot in on O’Neill like he’s not already shown he knows what he’s doing..... I'm not putting the boot in but the red flags haven't gone anywhere, they're still flying for all to see, I'm just not as convinced as some seem to be. You very rarely have anything positive to say about O’Neill at all...... |
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Post by loosestools on Aug 22, 2020 19:43:06 GMT
It mattered to Burton Albion!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2020 19:51:02 GMT
I'm not putting the boot in but the red flags haven't gone anywhere, they're still flying for all to see, I'm just not as convinced as some seem to be. You very rarely have anything positive to say about O’Neill at all...... He did well keeping us up and he's done well giving some of the younger lads a chance, but the sooner he drops his fascination for 4-3-3 the better I'll feel about him, I think it will hold him back in the long run if he doesn't. Just for the record, I vary rarely say anything positive about anything  |
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 22, 2020 20:05:31 GMT
As a slight positive I thought the two full backs looked ok and I like to see Powell... I agree. I thought Fox looked shaky to start with and was guilty of making an early mistake that could have conceded a goal. But he got better as the game progressed. Smith is turning into our best back line player, but that is not hugely complementary. Powell is our only truly creative player, but he needs to keep his temper or he is going to see red. |
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 22, 2020 20:05:56 GMT
You very rarely have anything positive to say about O’Neill at all...... He did well keeping us up and he's done well giving some of the younger lads a chance, but the sooner he drops his fascination for 4-3-3 the better I'll feel about him, I think it will hold him back in the long run if he doesn't. Just for the record, I vary rarely say anything positive about anything Any comments on the Crawley / Buttler partnership? |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2020 20:07:23 GMT
He did well keeping us up and he's done well giving some of the younger lads a chance, but the sooner he drops his fascination for 4-3-3 the better I'll feel about him, I think it will hold him back in the long run if he doesn't. Just for the record, I vary rarely say anything positive about anything Any comments on the Crawley / Buttler partnership? I had to google it |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 20:07:39 GMT
He did well keeping us up and he's done well giving some of the younger lads a chance, but the sooner he drops his fascination for 4-3-3 the better I'll feel about him, I think it will hold him back in the long run if he doesn't. Just for the record, I vary rarely say anything positive about anything Any comments on the Crawley / Buttler partnership? He’s annoyed it didn’t reach 500....... |
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Post by questionable on Aug 22, 2020 20:18:36 GMT
Admittedly I only caught the second half but that wasn’t good whatsoever and other than keep passing the ball back, inside, the odd pass forward before losing the ball to a total weak forward line it was pretty poor all round.
It was a mix of Rowette/Jones, tip tap crap and trying to push the pace with passing to nobody up front then being put under pressure as the forwards can’t hold the ball or bring in other players.
We have no pace whatsoever in this team and we’ve added aging players who will slow the play down more.
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Post by stoke111 on Aug 22, 2020 20:24:47 GMT
View AttachmentPresumably, these are going to be watchable from the perimeter fence at Claytonwood. Does anyone know differently? Any idea what time this would be? |
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Post by Sfance on Aug 22, 2020 20:31:04 GMT
I'm in the "the result doesn't matter" camp. But, that said, you'd think that the players would want to show that they belong in a Championship-level team - and there was precious little evidence of that. As for strategy and tactics, IF O'Neil had a plan for the game, it was a poor plan, or he didn't communicate it well, or the players paid no attention to it.
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Post by David Brent on Aug 22, 2020 20:59:14 GMT
We need pace, we sign slow ageing players with none  I remember saying that but got slated when we signed fletcher but no, I know fuck all |
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Post by shipshape on Aug 22, 2020 21:45:06 GMT
I Remember season 95-96 season I think , we won every pre season friendly , won one in the next 8 in the league 🤷🏼♂️ I remember the promotion season under Lou we lost every pre season game including Newcastle town game. Pre-season 84-85,we scored something like 30 in six games. We went on to score 24 in the next 42 league games. |
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Post by britvic72 on Aug 22, 2020 22:29:46 GMT
I remember the promotion season under Lou we lost every pre season game including Newcastle town game. Pre-season 84-85,we scored something like 30 in six games. We went on to score 24 in the next 42 league games. That’s the way I used to remember pre-season friendlies. We had a good pre-season expectation high the we’d have a bad start in the league and a poor season. Poor pre-season then we’d have a great start and a good season. |
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Post by harryburrows on Aug 23, 2020 6:07:37 GMT
I Remember season 95-96 season I think , we won every pre season friendly , won one in the next 8 in the league 🤷🏼♂️ I remember the promotion season under Lou we lost every pre season game including Newcastle town game. I also remember us comfortably beating liverpool pre season with a Hoekstra screamer. And a few months later they Muellerd us 0- 8 in the league cup |
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Post by loosestools on Aug 23, 2020 7:12:36 GMT
So lets me get this right - if we beat Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Liverpool in pre season games - it would be just a meaningless kicknaround? Come off it!
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Post by shipshape on Aug 23, 2020 7:34:04 GMT
So lets me get this right - if we beat Bayern Munich, Real Madrid and Liverpool in pre season games - it would be just a meaningless kicknaround? Come off it! Yes, it would be. |
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 23, 2020 7:41:01 GMT
Bring back Parkway Clayton. We always used to win there
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