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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 22, 2020 12:22:46 GMT
You can absolutely gaurantee with TS at the helm ,we won't be going down the derby county route ,and getting in someone like Frank lampard. Or going down the Glasgow rangers route and getting in someone like Steven Gerrard. But oh my , I am lost for words. What the fuck are you wittering on about? What have Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard got to do with this chap we've just appointed? They're mangers and we've got one of those. Are you suggesting that we should have appointed someone who was recently an elite level player into this role? You're all over the shop pal đ
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 22, 2020 12:28:38 GMT
It beggars belief that you want an ageing has been dinosaur as head of recruitment. Talk about thick as mince. Who would have guessed that a pulis hating comment would come from an obsessive pulis hating Herbert. Shall I make you a list of the players tp plucked out of nowhere for scfc? You don't have to hate Pulis to know he would be bloody awful as head of recruitment.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Aug 22, 2020 12:31:56 GMT
Wonder if he sanctioned the Mikel signing.
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Post by crowey on Aug 22, 2020 12:32:31 GMT
Have Millwall signed any standout players in the last 3 years? A bloke called Ryan Woodsđ ... on loan
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Post by crowey on Aug 22, 2020 12:33:51 GMT
Wonder if he sanctioned the Mikel signing. ... hope so
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Post by lordb on Aug 22, 2020 12:37:31 GMT
Wonder if he sanctioned the Mikel signing. I thought we signed Mikel last week
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2020 12:39:18 GMT
Serious question: do we actually need a head of recruitment? Weâve not had one since Feb and the four signings so far this window are arguably better than when we had a head of recruitment. Well said. Have lessons been learned? I think this post is completely superfluous. We already have someone in charge of recruitment - Michael OâNeill.
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Post by march4 on Aug 22, 2020 12:41:40 GMT
To the people that matter. Apart from Peter Coates who was TPâs main guest at his celebration dinner by his fellow managers, we might be better off if TP replaces them all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 12:45:49 GMT
Good luck to him , but praise for getting spurs to loan a youngster to Millwall ,is a bit rich I am pretty sure Harry Kane had loan spells at Leyton Orient and Millwall on the way up . For a top youngster ,the first team manager , would like to keep tabs on , a loan to orient or Millwall , makes more sense than a loan to Plymouth or Preston.
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 22, 2020 12:47:30 GMT
Good luck to the lad Iâd say also but would love to know what made him the stand out candidate? Whatâs his main strength etc so we could look to see it play out? Well it seems he was instrumental in arranging Millwall's loan of Troy Parrott which is probably the standout loan deal completed so far and also the loan of Woods so it seems he works hard in a market which I think we have failed totally to use properly for at least 10 years.
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Post by kustokie on Aug 22, 2020 12:51:37 GMT
Doesnât sound flattering Comment about getting âhis fat arse out of bed to watch lower leagues on cold nightâ was particularly ironic. Heâll be doing that a lot in his new job.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 12:54:32 GMT
You can absolutely gaurantee with TS at the helm ,we won't be going down the derby county route ,and getting in someone like Frank lampard. Or going down the Glasgow rangers route and getting in someone like Steven Gerrard. But oh my , I am lost for words. What the fuck are you wittering on about? What have Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard got to do with this chap we've just appointed? They're mangers and we've got one of those. Are you suggesting that we should have appointed someone who was recently an elite level player into this role? You're all over the shop pal đ I am saying TS wants a total fall guy with no friends in the media ,and no reputation in the world of football . So that if it goes wrong ,he can quietly get rid of them Obviously ,he wouldn't get that ,with a name like Gerrard or lampard ,who if it went wrong would happily go on football focus and say why it went wrong TS absolutely does not want that ,he wants ' under the radar ' And he has appointed the perfect fall guy ( again)
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Post by kustokie on Aug 22, 2020 12:56:53 GMT
âWhatâs all the fuss about? â. âwe are prepared for whatever the future bringsâ.
Based on those remarks, I give him the benefit of the doubt.đ
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 12:56:57 GMT
Good luck to the lad Iâd say also but would love to know what made him the stand out candidate? Whatâs his main strength etc so we could look to see it play out? Well it seems he was instrumental in arranging Millwall's loan of Troy Parrott which is probably the standout loan deal completed so far and also the loan of Woods so it seems he works hard in a market which I think we have failed totally to use properly for at least 10 years. Millwall is in London ...they loaned Harry Kane out to Leyton Orient and Millwall . It's not as if he got Troy parrot to come to Plymouth or Preston
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Post by lordb on Aug 22, 2020 12:58:29 GMT
What the fuck are you wittering on about? What have Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard got to do with this chap we've just appointed? They're mangers and we've got one of those. Are you suggesting that we should have appointed someone who was recently an elite level player into this role? You're all over the shop pal đ I am saying TS wants a total fall guy with no friends in the media ,and no reputation in the world of football . So that if it goes wrong ,he can quietly get rid of them Obviously ,he wouldn't get that ,with a name like Gerrard or lampard ,who if it went wrong would happily go on football focus and say why it went wrong TS absolutely does not want that ,he wants ' under the radar ' And he has appointed the perfect fall guy ( again) Your point is ludicrous No one of that calibre is going to take head of recruitment role at a Championship club. Gerrard has turned down the managers job at Bristol City he's not going to take a role several layers lower is he?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 12:58:38 GMT
I am underwhelmed
I think he has been appointed for the wrong reasons
But good luck to him
We need him to come good
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Aug 22, 2020 13:01:31 GMT
Also for all the talk about his age and experience, he has more experience than MON working in the Football League transfer market.
Not saying that means anything at all, just seems harsh to have a go at him for his age when the above is true. All we can do is wait and see.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 22, 2020 13:04:47 GMT
I am saying TS wants a total fall guy with no friends in the media ,and no reputation in the world of football . So that if it goes wrong ,he can quietly get rid of them Obviously ,he wouldn't get that ,with a name like Gerrard or lampard ,who if it went wrong would happily go on football focus and say why it went wrong TS absolutely does not want that ,he wants ' under the radar ' And he has appointed the perfect fall guy ( again) Your point is ludicrous No one of that calibre is going to take head of recruitment role at a Championship club. Gerrard has turned down the managers job at Bristol City he's not going to take a role several layers lower is he? Agreed. No club lower than a top 6 Premier League club is going to appoint even a moderately well known "name" as Head of Recruitment - let alone someone with such a high profile in the game as Lampard and Gerrard. Even by the normal Oatcake standards of twisting the facts to fit an agenda, this poster takes the biscuit!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 13:23:10 GMT
Your point is ludicrous No one of that calibre is going to take head of recruitment role at a Championship club. Gerrard has turned down the managers job at Bristol City he's not going to take a role several layers lower is he? Agreed. No club lower than a top 6 Premier League club is going to appoint even a moderately well known "name" as Head of Recruitment - let alone someone with such a high profile in the game as Lampard and Gerrard. Even by the normal Oatcake standards of twisting the facts to fit an agenda, this poster takes the biscuit! I was actually talking about the general ethos of the club But the facts are Leeds ,wba and Fulham were the three promoted clubs . Who bought in the expertise of Marcelo biesla ,slaven billic and Scott Parker I think those three are big names by championship standards and their name helped player recruitment Derby have tried and failed to boost their promotion chances with big names like Frank lampard and Wayne Rooney Stoke haven't gone down that route , obviously But I don't think that is because it is good for a club in the championship , to not be associated with names like biesla ,billic ,Parker , lampard and Rooney I think for some reason ,the board think it suits them to avoid people like that . Fair enough ,it's their club ,but it doesn't mean they are right.
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Post by s7oke on Aug 22, 2020 13:30:06 GMT
Doesnât sound flattering Comment about getting âhis fat arse out of bed to watch lower leagues on cold nightâ was particularly ironic.  Heâll be doing that a lot in his new job. I hope he will Itâs a dream job really isnât it
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 22, 2020 13:41:54 GMT
Agreed. No club lower than a top 6 Premier League club is going to appoint even a moderately well known "name" as Head of Recruitment - let alone someone with such a high profile in the game as Lampard and Gerrard. Even by the normal Oatcake standards of twisting the facts to fit an agenda, this poster takes the biscuit! I was actually talking about the general ethos of the club But the facts are Leeds ,wba and Fulham were the three promoted clubs . Who bought in the expertise of Marcelo biesla ,slaven billic and Scott ParkerI think those three are big names by championship standards and their name helped player recruitment Derby have tried and failed to boost their promotion chances with big names like Frank lampard and Wayne Rooney Stoke haven't gone down that route , obviously But I don't think that is because it is good for a club in the championship , to not be associated with names like biesla ,billic ,Parker , lampard and Rooney I think for some reason ,the board think it suits them to avoid people like that . Fair enough ,it's their club ,but it doesn't mean they are right. You speak as you find, obviously. Speaking personally, I'd say MON is a bigger name as manager that Scott Parker was when he became manager of Fulham. And, although Slaven Bilic is probably a bigger "name" than MON - I'd say Bilic was damaged goods when the Baggies signed him - certainly I was at least as happy with MON when we signed him as I would have been with Bilic. As I said in my previous post - you seem to be taking facts and interpreting them to suit your own agenda. If ourselves and Fulham had been seeking managers at the same time would you really have wanted Scott Parker over Michael O'Neill? You are having a moan about us appointing a head of recruitment with only 3 years experience in the job but you would have preferred Scott Parker over MON as a manager when he (Parker) had zero experience as a manger.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 13:51:56 GMT
Fair enough
Good luck to the guy
We need him to come good
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Post by harlequin on Aug 22, 2020 14:18:30 GMT
Time will tell but at face value this is a very odd appointment with no obvious rational basis. Thatâs not like Stoke.. He did well with loans and free transfers at Millwall, we may want him to perform the same maneuvering here. I can see why that would be appealing to us considering we are hamstrung with ffp. I'm more interested in Aldridge's motivations and why he left a job at the club he has supported from a young age. Surely it would take something significant to step away from that. If it's due to Rowett stumbling in and throwing his weight around he would only go up in my estimation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 14:31:00 GMT
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Post by stokecitytalke on Aug 22, 2020 14:32:42 GMT
A bloke called Ryan Woodsđ ... on loan Woosh!
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Post by baystokie on Aug 22, 2020 14:34:22 GMT
Good luck to the lad Iâd say also but would love to know what made him the stand out candidate? Whatâs his main strength etc so we could look to see it play out? The last thing the new guy needs is the Boothen Inquisition putting him on trial every week. Our judgements on players vary according to the last game played as would our opinions on the guy who 'discovered' them. Why should we be party to a guy's interview? Not many on here would fancy their job interview being broadcast to the world and his dog.
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Post by LGH87 on Aug 22, 2020 14:39:19 GMT
Although I do find the obsession with data a farce, so I'm sharpening as we speak It serves Brentford quite well with their moneyball approach
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Post by baystokie on Aug 22, 2020 14:41:22 GMT
Serious question: do we actually need a head of recruitment? Weâve not had one since Feb and the four signings so far this window are arguably better than when we had a head of recruitment. Well said. Have lessons been learned? I think this post is completely superfluous. We already have someone in charge of recruitment - Michael OâNeill. MON is in charge of all playing matters but not even he can be omnipresent. Difficult to watch targets in games being played at the same time. He will need people he can TRUST to be his additional eyes and ears. MON will be the sole judge as to any further action but I'd rather we get too many recommendations for MON's scrutiny than too few.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 22, 2020 15:43:39 GMT
Although I do find the obsession with data a farce, so I'm sharpening as we speak It serves Brentford quite well with their moneyball approach It does but Iâm sure itâs more than that. Itâs the whole using that as a stand-alone and XG is just nonsense.
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Post by colnepotter on Aug 22, 2020 15:59:37 GMT
What the fuck are you wittering on about? What have Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard got to do with this chap we've just appointed? They're mangers and we've got one of those. Are you suggesting that we should have appointed someone who was recently an elite level player into this role? You're all over the shop pal đ I am saying TS wants a total fall guy with no friends in the media ,and no reputation in the world of football . So that if it goes wrong ,he can quietly get rid of them Obviously ,he wouldn't get that ,with a name like Gerrard or lampard ,who if it went wrong would happily go on football focus and say why it went wrong TS absolutely does not want that ,he wants ' under the radar ' And he has appointed the perfect fall guy ( again)
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