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Post by superjonscape on Aug 22, 2020 8:16:17 GMT
Have Millwall signed any standout players in the last 3 years? The Spurs loanee just but not sure how good he will be? Could have found him with a good pair of binoculars, wouldn't exactly call it a coup, millwall are the perfect loan option for a fringe spurs player. Mega millions at stake if we get to the prem and we go with inexperience, yet again
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Post by neddy on Aug 22, 2020 8:19:52 GMT
At his age he will be hungry and motivated to succeed so let’s see!
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 22, 2020 8:22:22 GMT
What about that guy from Brighton who was Jones' choice? Has he left?
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 22, 2020 8:24:13 GMT
Let's be fair, recruiting at Millwall, on one of the smallest budgets in the league, and for 2 managers who favour very pragmatic football is not an easy gig. He must've done some things right - and the manager will always have the veto over anything. Milwlall fans, like all fans, won't really know what it is he's doing in the background. To get the job at Millwall at just 24 - and beat 80 candidates to our job at just 27 is not easy. May be worth giving him a chance? ABSOLUTELY NO WAY. THE OATCAKE HAS SPOKEN AND THIS GUY IS CLEARLY WANK AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS CLUB IS SHITE AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE ON THIS MESSAGEBOARD WHO COULD DEFINITELY DO THIS JOB DESPITE IN MOST CASES BEING UNABLE TO BOTH FORM ANY KIND OF LOGICAL ARGUMENT OR INDEED COHERENT SENTENCES. FUCK OFF WITH YOUR EVEN HANDED, PRAGMATIC APPRAISAL OF A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT - WE ONLY DEAL IN SNAP JUDGMENTS BASED ON HERESAY AND CONJECTURE ROUND THESE PARTS.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 22, 2020 8:24:28 GMT
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Post by neddy on Aug 22, 2020 8:24:30 GMT
What about that guy from Brighton who was Jones' choice? Has he left? Yes mate Chapel
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 22, 2020 8:26:35 GMT
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 22, 2020 8:36:09 GMT
Let's be fair, recruiting at Millwall, on one of the smallest budgets in the league, and for 2 managers who favour very pragmatic football is not an easy gig. He must've done some things right - and the manager will always have the veto over anything. Milwlall fans, like all fans, won't really know what it is he's doing in the background. To get the job at Millwall at just 24 - and beat 80 candidates to our job at just 27 is not easy. May be worth giving him a chance? ABSOLUTELY NO WAY. THE OATCAKE HAS SPOKEN AND THIS GUY IS CLEARLY WANK AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS CLUB IS SHITE AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE ON THIS MESSAGEBOARD WHO COULD DEFINITELY DO THIS JOB DESPITE IN MOST CASES BEING UNABLE TO BOTH FORM ANY KIND OF LOGICAL ARGUMENT OR INDEED COHERENT SENTENCES. FUCK OFF WITH YOUR EVEN HANDED, PRAGMATIC APPRAISAL OF A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT - WE ONLY DEAL IN SNAP JUDGMENTS BASED ON HERESAY AND CONJECTURE ROUND THESE PARTS. Floyd maywether can't read but he's a world class boxer. I've worked alongside many graduates, clever as fuck but lack basic industry common sense, football will be no different in my opinion. At least we know at the grand Old age of 27 he will have a phone book full of reliable contacts, wont he? It beggars belief that after we spunked 100's of millions under Cartwright we go for another with little experience. TP would have been far and away the best option in my opinion, this guy is an apprentice
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Post by neddy on Aug 22, 2020 8:38:53 GMT
That’s positive I like Winter....
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Post by Gods on Aug 22, 2020 8:39:17 GMT
Looks like he is only just out of shorts.
Says the job was advertised and there were 80 applicants.
Did anyone see it and was there mention of the salary?
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 22, 2020 8:41:38 GMT
ABSOLUTELY NO WAY. THE OATCAKE HAS SPOKEN AND THIS GUY IS CLEARLY WANK AND EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS CLUB IS SHITE AND THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE ON THIS MESSAGEBOARD WHO COULD DEFINITELY DO THIS JOB DESPITE IN MOST CASES BEING UNABLE TO BOTH FORM ANY KIND OF LOGICAL ARGUMENT OR INDEED COHERENT SENTENCES. FUCK OFF WITH YOUR EVEN HANDED, PRAGMATIC APPRAISAL OF A SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT - WE ONLY DEAL IN SNAP JUDGMENTS BASED ON HERESAY AND CONJECTURE ROUND THESE PARTS. Floyd maywether can't read but he's a world class boxer. I've worked alongside many graduates, clever as fuck but lack basic industry common sense, football will be no different in my opinion. At least we know at the grand Old age of 27 he will have a phone book full of reliable contacts, wont he? It beggars belief that after we spunked 100's of millions under Cartwright we go for another with little experience. TP would have been far and away the best option in my opinion, this guy is an apprentice Exactly mate. This club will never amount to anything until we bring Pulis back.
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 22, 2020 8:43:25 GMT
Well if he's no good at recruiting he could atleast help to bring down the average age of squad.
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 22, 2020 8:44:09 GMT
Floyd maywether can't read but he's a world class boxer. I've worked alongside many graduates, clever as fuck but lack basic industry common sense, football will be no different in my opinion. At least we know at the grand Old age of 27 he will have a phone book full of reliable contacts, wont he? It beggars belief that after we spunked 100's of millions under Cartwright we go for another with little experience. TP would have been far and away the best option in my opinion, this guy is an apprentice Exactly mate. This club will never amount to anything until we bring Pulis back. You surely can't be of the belief the best candidate for a head of recruitment job is a 27 year old with a degree? Pulis was proven to unearth bargains, time & time again
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Post by neddy on Aug 22, 2020 8:45:22 GMT
The thing is everyone is tainted by the last few years recruitment disasters and the lad needs to be given his chance!
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Post by musik on Aug 22, 2020 8:47:26 GMT
Good luck to Alex!
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 22, 2020 8:51:09 GMT
Exactly mate. This club will never amount to anything until we bring Pulis back. You surely can't be of the belief the best candidate for a head of recruitment job is a 27 year old with a degree? Pulis was proven to unearth bargains, time & time again Pulis losing the plot re: transfers was one of the reasons he was bulleted and one of the reasons we were lumbered with Cartwright/the Head of Recruitment role. As to whether a 27 year old with a degree is the best choice well, only time will tell. What I won't be doing however is hooting my trap off on a public forum condemning a bloke that I know nothing about as it may make me look like some sort of knee-jerk gobshite who is incapable of any kind of measured thinking.
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 22, 2020 8:58:25 GMT
You surely can't be of the belief the best candidate for a head of recruitment job is a 27 year old with a degree? Pulis was proven to unearth bargains, time & time again Pulis losing the plot re: transfers was one of the reasons he was bulleted and one of the reasons we were lumbered with Cartwright/the Head of Recruitment role. As to whether a 27 year old with a degree is the best choice well, only time will tell. What I won't be doing however is hooting my trap off on a public forum condemning a bloke that I know nothing about as it may make me look like some sort of knee-jerk gobshite who is incapable of any kind of measured thinking. I think its safe to say a 27 year old head of recruitment who has 1 job on his record and more than likely very few contacts is not going to be a wealth of knowledge. Its embarrassing to even suggest he would be as in touch with recruitment than a TP.would be. Even cartwright had the 'help' of beswicks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2020 9:00:52 GMT
You surely can't be of the belief the best candidate for a head of recruitment job is a 27 year old with a degree? Pulis was proven to unearth bargains, time & time again Pulis losing the plot re: transfers was one of the reasons he was bulleted and one of the reasons we were lumbered with Cartwright/the Head of Recruitment role. As to whether a 27 year old with a degree is the best choice well, only time will tell. What I won't be doing however is hooting my trap off on a public forum condemning a bloke that I know nothing about as it may make me look like some sort of knee-jerk gobshite who is incapable of any kind of measured thinking. Will you sit down and be quiet? The court has reached it's verdict. He's no good. So just accept it. Judge Skippy has spoken and his word is final.
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Aug 22, 2020 9:01:14 GMT
Serious question: do we actually need a head of recruitment?
We’ve not had one since Feb and the four signings so far this window are arguably better than when we had a head of recruitment.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 22, 2020 9:06:03 GMT
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Post by ashleyscfc on Aug 22, 2020 9:09:38 GMT
I’ve said it time and time again. What’s his record? Where’s his background in building a scouting network? Building a club culture and footballing philosophy? Where’s his evidence of a plethora of successful transfers sold on for millions? This reeks of a cheap fall guy... So we hired carto based on his contacts in football and understanding of footballing agents and contracts, (which to a certain extent i could understand) Then what on earth have we hired this guy for? I want to be proved wrong I really do, but this seems like the appointment Nathan Jones of recruitment I’d of rather kept chapel...
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Post by danceswithclams on Aug 22, 2020 9:09:49 GMT
Oatcake Logic:
"Our recruitment has been piss-poor for so long yet we persist on maintaining the 'jobs for the boys' approach handing out roles to wildly unqualified people just because they're mates with someone at the club or part of the old pros network. Off the pitch we're so behind the times it's untrue - we should be looking to emulate Brentford's data-led approach and appoint a young, forward-thinking head of recruitment with a fresh approach. That's what we should be doing."
***Club appoints young, forward-thinking head of recruitment***
"WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY? HE'S BARELY OUT OF SHORT TROUSERS. WHY ARE WE APPOINTING SOME BLOKE WHO'S ONLY GOT A DEGREE AND DEFINITELY 100% NO OTHER EXPERIENCE AS FAR AS I'M AWARE (AND I'M VERY AWARE AND KNOW THIS FOR CERTAIN). WE SHOULD BE BRINGING BACK A KNOWN FOOTBALLING DINOSAUR WHOSE BEEN SACKED ONCE ALREADY. THAT'S DEFINITELY THE WAY FORWARD."
😂 😂 😂
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 22, 2020 9:19:33 GMT
It was mad to appoint a Jones man when they were about to sack him.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Aug 22, 2020 9:22:49 GMT
Serious question: do we actually need a head of recruitment? We’ve not had one since Feb and the four signings so far this window are arguably better than when we had a head of recruitment. For most of the period since February until a few weeks ago, during lock down MON probably had more spare time than he wanted given that he did not have to take the players for training or check out the opposition we were due to play in the next game. I'd imagine that a head of recruitment was the last thing he needed to help him. He would no doubt have made many phone calls about future availability of players and possibly even spoken to a fair number of targets on the phone. Now we are at the start of perhaps the most concentrated League season ever in English football, I'd say MON and all his training/coaching staff will have very little spare time between now and next May. A head of recruitment will be vital to oversee that part of the club's activities.
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Post by Gods on Aug 22, 2020 9:24:20 GMT
On a side note it seems Aldridge was working behind the scenes with Gazza Rowett on keeping Ryan Woods at the Den.
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Rowett said: “Yes, yes I would. He’s a player that’s given us a bit more control of the ball.
“He’s such an intelligent footballer but he can also show the other side of the game which we know is important to our team and to our club.
“So he’s a player that I’d like to be here next season. We’re working incredibly hard behind the scenes with Alex [Aldridge, head of recruitment] and his team to try and make headway in terms of the conversations and the players we’ve targeted.”
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Post by Gods on Aug 22, 2020 9:33:22 GMT
Serious question: do we actually need a head of recruitment? We’ve not had one since Feb and the four signings so far this window are arguably better than when we had a head of recruitment. You need one if you want a 'dossier' on all the targets. And for that you need someone who can draw up all the stats and charts on the computer. Hence perhaps why it is increasingly a young persons game, no longer a middle aged man in a mackintosh and flat cap on the touchline on a piss wet day. 'The line it is drawn The curse it is cast The slow one now Will later be fast As the present now Will later be past The order is rapidly fadin' And the first one now Will later be last For the times they are a-changin'
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Post by chumley on Aug 22, 2020 9:34:38 GMT
He's obviously a very good interviewer, full of self worth....First signing he will recommend will be Ryan Woods..
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 22, 2020 9:44:26 GMT
Pulis losing the plot re: transfers was one of the reasons he was bulleted and one of the reasons we were lumbered with Cartwright/the Head of Recruitment role. As to whether a 27 year old with a degree is the best choice well, only time will tell. What I won't be doing however is hooting my trap off on a public forum condemning a bloke that I know nothing about as it may make me look like some sort of knee-jerk gobshite who is incapable of any kind of measured thinking. Will you sit down and be quiet? The court has reached it's verdict. He's no good. So just accept it. Judge Skippy has spoken and his word is final. Thats it, your pearls of wisdom have me completely converted. I'm all for our new 27 year old as head of scouting, even if he is not old enough to remember subbuteo. I bow to your wisdom 😂 At least he will be fluent in FM
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 22, 2020 9:48:43 GMT
Good Luck Alex.
Millwall have arguably been punching above their weight and their fans seem pleased with the actual transfers they have made. It's weird that they think he's shit but are happy with their signings, seems like sour grapes.
It looks to me like he has done a great job there. Our club actually feels like it's getting it's shit together.
UTMP
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Post by superjonscape on Aug 22, 2020 9:49:31 GMT
Oatcake Logic: "Our recruitment has been piss-poor for so long yet we persist on maintaining the 'jobs for the boys' approach handing out roles to wildly unqualified people just because they're mates with someone at the club or part of the old pros network. Off the pitch we're so behind the times it's untrue - we should be looking to emulate Brentford's data-led approach and appoint a young, forward-thinking head of recruitment with a fresh approach. That's what we should be doing." ***Club appoints young, forward-thinking head of recruitment*** "WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY? HE'S BARELY OUT OF SHORT TROUSERS. WHY ARE WE APPOINTING SOME BLOKE WHO'S ONLY GOT A DEGREE AND DEFINITELY 100% NO OTHER EXPERIENCE AS FAR AS I'M AWARE (AND I'M VERY AWARE AND KNOW THIS FOR CERTAIN). WE SHOULD BE BRINGING BACK A KNOWN FOOTBALLING DINOSAUR WHOSE BEEN SACKED ONCE ALREADY. THAT'S DEFINITELY THE WAY FORWARD." 😂 😂 😂 Not just "WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY" but a "WHO THE FUCK IS THIS GUY" in the tone of Connor mcgreggor 😁
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