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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2020 12:20:32 GMT
Bit confused with that? By big lad, does he mean Souttar? Lindsay I think - he is 6' 4"! Then his sentence doesn't make any sense does it? Two clubs are interested in him but both clubs may be more interested in the big lad?
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 16, 2020 12:21:05 GMT
Lindsay I think - he is 6' 4"! Then his sentence doesn't make any sense does it? Two clubs are interested in him but both clubs may be more interested in the big lad? I took it as more interested in him than Blackburn are?
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Post by liathroid on Aug 16, 2020 12:28:35 GMT
could be Collins
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 16, 2020 12:31:37 GMT
Isn't Nixon a Partick fan? He will be referring to Lindsay as big man for sure.
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Post by westgatelakes on Aug 17, 2020 7:29:57 GMT
Please let this be true - Lindsay makes Steven Tweed look like Beckenbaur
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 23, 2020 6:26:34 GMT
Nothing exciting from Nixon this morning
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 23, 2020 7:35:09 GMT
Nothing exciting from Nixon this morning Cheeky buggers taking tips from (insert name of Turkish club here) on transfer policy.
Understandable when they can all see we're such a soft touch.
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 23, 2020 7:39:22 GMT
Nothing exciting from Nixon this morning Cheeky buggers taking tips from (insert name of Turkish club here) on transfer policy.
Understandable when they can all see we're such a soft touch.Clubs use the loan system to their advantage as we did with Hogan although it didn't work out. Rather than blame Huddersfield I blame our appalling recruitment that seems to make Lindsay surplus after less than a year here
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Post by s7oke on Aug 23, 2020 8:56:41 GMT
Cheeky buggers taking tips from (insert name of Turkish club here) on transfer policy.
Understandable when they can all see we're such a soft touch. Clubs use the loan system to their advantage as we did with Hogan although it didn't work out. Rather than blame Huddersfield I blame our appalling recruitment that seems to make Lindsay surplus after less than a year here Along with at least half a dozen more over the past 18 months
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2020 9:09:47 GMT
He must have had a good reputation before us.
Still I'd rather him in the side than Chester but he's clearly toss.
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Post by greenhoff on Aug 23, 2020 9:11:42 GMT
Cheeky buggers taking tips from (insert name of Turkish club here) on transfer policy.
Understandable when they can all see we're such a soft touch. Clubs use the loan system to their advantage as we did with Hogan although it didn't work out. Rather than blame Huddersfield I blame our appalling recruitment that seems to make Lindsay surplus after less than a year here We basically bought the wrong centre half from Barnsley
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 23, 2020 11:35:00 GMT
Cheeky buggers taking tips from (insert name of Turkish club here) on transfer policy.
Understandable when they can all see we're such a soft touch. Clubs use the loan system to their advantage as we did with Hogan although it didn't work out. Rather than blame Huddersfield I blame our appalling recruitment that seems to make Lindsay surplus after less than a year here Apologies sheds if I haven't been clear enough in my post (& obviously not).
Yes there is a sideswipe at Huddersfield but actually I am laying the blame at the door of the aforementioned "appalling recruitment" whereby others must surely see us as a "soft touch".
And yes, by soft touch, I mean joke.
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 23, 2020 11:40:38 GMT
Clubs use the loan system to their advantage as we did with Hogan although it didn't work out. Rather than blame Huddersfield I blame our appalling recruitment that seems to make Lindsay surplus after less than a year here We basically bought the wrong centre half from Barnsley
We certainly did. Mr Pinnock has most likely increased in value and his worth to the side for Brentford for next season.
Lindsay is surplus to requirement for us.
Maybe add him to when we bought the wrong LB from Hull (albeit, while later than expected, Tymon's progress at least looks to be going in the right direction).
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 23, 2020 11:41:46 GMT
And the root cause of this shocking recruitment over the last few years, the one constant through it all
Tony bloody Scholes
In any other business.........
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 23, 2020 11:44:14 GMT
And the root cause of this shocking recruitment over the last few years, the one constant through it all Tony bloody Scholes In any other business......... Genuine question, do you think Tony Scholes suggested and forced Nathan Jones to sign Liam Lindsey?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 23, 2020 11:49:32 GMT
And the root cause of this shocking recruitment over the last few years, the one constant through it all Tony bloody Scholes In any other business......... Genuine question, do you think Tony Scholes suggested and forced Nathan Jones to sign Liam Lindsey? Isn't this where we need a technical director though? At the time we had Shawcross, Batth, Indi, Collins, Souttar, Cameron, Wimmer and then after we signed him we got Carter-Vickers too. There was absolutely no need for either.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 23, 2020 11:52:19 GMT
And the root cause of this shocking recruitment over the last few years, the one constant through it all Tony bloody Scholes In any other business......... Genuine question, do you think Tony Scholes suggested and forced Nathan Jones to sign Liam Lindsey? Probably not But he's in charge of the overall structure/set up. It goes far beyond the Lindsay signing
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 23, 2020 13:53:33 GMT
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 23, 2020 14:32:31 GMT
Genuine question, do you think Tony Scholes suggested and forced Nathan Jones to sign Liam Lindsey? Probably not But he's in charge of the overall structure/set up. It goes far beyond the Lindsay signing He's also a member of the board, since his arrival at the club out transfer dealing both in and out have been pretty disastrous, managers have come and gone Carthorse has gone yet this snake oil salesman is in position to oversee the car crash that is Stoke City FC, I wonder how many millions have we lost on piss poor transfer dealings under his leadership ?
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Post by stokesaint1 on Aug 24, 2020 3:25:47 GMT
I note "all" these clubs "interested" in Lindsay only seem to talk about loans, like all clubs seem to do with all of our players. I know we need to get some players out but when the hell are we actually going to sell one or two, rather than merely postponing the problem for 12 months. We must be seen as a really soft touch everywhere. It really is embarrassing and annoying.
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Post by upthefud on Aug 24, 2020 4:04:38 GMT
I note "all" these clubs "interested" in Lindsay only seem to talk about loans, like all clubs seem to do with all of our players. I know we need to get some players out but when the hell are we actually going to sell one or two, rather than merely postponing the problem for 12 months. We must be seen as a really soft touch everywhere. It really is embarrassing and annoying. FFP mate Loaning is better than selling for us, as it maintains their value or some bollocks Not sure how the madness all works, but yeah basically unless we get more than we paid then it doesn’t make sense for us to sell
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 24, 2020 6:09:44 GMT
I note "all" these clubs "interested" in Lindsay only seem to talk about loans, like all clubs seem to do with all of our players. I know we need to get some players out but when the hell are we actually going to sell one or two, rather than merely postponing the problem for 12 months. We must be seen as a really soft touch everywhere. It really is embarrassing and annoying. FFP mate Loaning is better than selling for us, as it maintains their value or some bollocks Not sure how the madness all works, but yeah basically unless we get more than we paid then it doesn’t make sense for us to sell Nothing wrong with the process
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Post by shipshape on Aug 24, 2020 6:20:32 GMT
Probably not But he's in charge of the overall structure/set up. It goes far beyond the Lindsay signing He's also a member of the board, since his arrival at the club out transfer dealing both in and out have been pretty disastrous, managers have come and gone Carthorse has gone yet this snake oil salesman is in position to oversee the car crash that is Stoke City FC, I wonder how many millions have we lost on piss poor transfer dealings under his leadership ? Since who's arrival? Scholes arrived in 2004. He deserves to be out after the last few years but to say its been shit since he arrived is not true.
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Post by crapslinger on Aug 24, 2020 7:10:18 GMT
He's also a member of the board, since his arrival at the club out transfer dealing both in and out have been pretty disastrous, managers have come and gone Carthorse has gone yet this snake oil salesman is in position to oversee the car crash that is Stoke City FC, I wonder how many millions have we lost on piss poor transfer dealings under his leadership ? Since who's arrival? Scholes arrived in 2004. He deserves to be out after the last few years but to say its been shit since he arrived is not true. How much money have we lost on players since he came here £14m Berahino, £18.3m Imbula, £18m Wimmer and on it goes, we are now scratching around for old freebies which he has overseen, we have players out on loan just to get the wage bill down who have contributed very little and will contribute even less, can you explain why he is still in a job here ?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 24, 2020 8:48:28 GMT
Since who's arrival? Scholes arrived in 2004. He deserves to be out after the last few years but to say its been shit since he arrived is not true. How much money have we lost on players since he came here £14m Berahino, £18.3m Imbula, £18m Wimmer and on it goes, we are now scratching around for old freebies which he has overseen, we have players out on loan just to get the wage bill down who have contributed very little and will contribute even less, can you explain why he is still in a job here ? He doesn't pick the players and given he's not really a football man would have to have advice etc from the managers and scouts re what we're willing to spend, I'm amazed he gats the brunt of it, I souldn't be because whatever goes wrong at the club its always on him for some. Wimmer/Bera for example, Hughes wanted both and raved about both but Scholes gets it in the neck still for their signings, he's the money man, if they're in budget and he gets them signed he's done his job.
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Post by biglad180 on Aug 24, 2020 9:51:06 GMT
if its true that 2 or 3 clubs are looking to sign him on loan for a season we should get a decent loan fee for him, let him out on loan to the highest bidder,
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Post by nottsover60 on Aug 24, 2020 10:16:30 GMT
And the root cause of this shocking recruitment over the last few years, the one constant through it all Tony bloody Scholes In any other business......... Genuine question, do you think Tony Scholes suggested and forced Nathan Jones to sign Liam Lindsey? I don't think he 'forces' any manager to sign a player no but I'm sure that some of the signings we make are not the manager's first choice but the best option Scholes is prepared to let him sign. I'm certain that is why we end up signing players who are not the best available. Whether it's because we won't meet clubs' valuations or can't agree terms with a player both are Scholes's job.
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Post by neddy on Aug 24, 2020 10:20:25 GMT
I think the biggest mistake he personally made was re contracting Bauer?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 10:52:38 GMT
Why don't we just keep Lindsay?
For sure he got off to a bad start, but how many players settle in from the go?
How many players settle when the manager is mad Nathan?
Lindsay's more assured on the ball than any of the other slow feet we have in the position. He's not slower than they are (well not exactly a recommendation, but still quicker than Batth, Bruno, Chester, and the other one).
He's got good positional sense and is strong in the air. He doesn't get sent off all the time.
He just had a bad start, but I can't understand why he doesn't at least get 30-45 mins to prove himself.
O'Neill doesn't operate a bomb squad, or so he says, but he does come mighty close with some.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Aug 24, 2020 11:00:40 GMT
Genuine question, do you think Tony Scholes suggested and forced Nathan Jones to sign Liam Lindsey? I don't think he 'forces' any manager to sign a player no but I'm sure that some of the signings we make are not the manager's first choice but the best option Scholes is prepared to let him sign. I'm certain that is why we end up signing players who are not the best available. Whether it's because we won't meet clubs' valuations or can't agree terms with a player both are Scholes's job. True they are his job, not a lot he can do if they aren't in budget and willing to meet half way so they fit in, and I'm sure that most managers miss out on their first choice now and then it probably happens quite a lot.
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