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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 26, 2020 16:11:38 GMT
Saw callum Roberts play for blyth last year, one of the best players I've seen at that level. Big step up from Notts but why not take a punt? He looks fairly tidy on the ball. If those are the best of his crosses though he might need to do a bit more work. He looks like he might make an half decent forward. |
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Post by kustokie on Aug 26, 2020 16:24:06 GMT
yes i think so but not sure if it was a loan deal or a permanent move not in last nights team against shakhtar He’s on loan and I think Inter have said they won’t be buying. He’ll be another one for the Turkish merry go round I reckon Not sure I’d want to be in Turkey right now. It’s one of the few places making a bigger mess of Covid than the US. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 26, 2020 17:28:02 GMT
What’s the definition of a “winger” and how many “wingers” have we had in the last 50 years?. Names please.  Excellent question. I started watching football in the early 70s when 442 was pretty much the only formation played in England so Terry Conroy is my model for a winger - go outside the fullback and whip in a cross. We've had quite a few of this type of winger over the years but the last two of this type for me were Etherington and Pennant - although you could make an arguement for McClean. The turning point for me watching Stoke was Hoekstra - our first winger who played more like an inside forward. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 26, 2020 20:43:37 GMT
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Post by karl on Aug 26, 2020 20:50:14 GMT
Does he play on either wing? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 26, 2020 20:58:50 GMT
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Post by jezzascfc on Aug 26, 2020 21:23:00 GMT
On the plus side, Jones would not cost a huge amount, you'd feel, and the sway of playing for MON again, who knows him already, could be a big plus for us if we are interested in him. It could be a low cost, low risk gamble compared to some of the ridiculous ones we have taken in the not so distant past!
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 26, 2020 22:10:26 GMT
What’s the definition of a “winger” and how many “wingers” have we had in the last 50 years?. Names please. Excellent question. I started watching football in the early 70s when 442 was pretty much the only formation played in England so Terry Conroy is my model for a winger - go outside the fullback and whip in a cross. We've had quite a few of this type of winger over the years but the last two of this type for me were Etherington and Pennant - although you could make an arguement for McClean. The turning point for me watching Stoke was Hoekstra - our first winger who played more like an inside forward. In my lifetime some of the stand out “wingers” that would hug the line and get a cross in were Don Ratcliffe, Harry Burrows, Jimmy Robertson, Mark Chamberlain. There’s a couple of others and for the life of me I can’t remember their names.......HELP 😁😁 Players like Geoff Salmon could drop a cross a ball onto a sixpence but I wouldn’t call him an out and out winger. Paul Maguire a winger? |
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 26, 2020 23:52:45 GMT
Excellent question. I started watching football in the early 70s when 442 was pretty much the only formation played in England so Terry Conroy is my model for a winger - go outside the fullback and whip in a cross. We've had quite a few of this type of winger over the years but the last two of this type for me were Etherington and Pennant - although you could make an arguement for McClean. The turning point for me watching Stoke was Hoekstra - our first winger who played more like an inside forward. In my lifetime some of the stand out “wingers” that would hug the line and get a cross in were Don Ratcliffe, Harry Burrows, Jimmy Robertson, Mark Chamberlain. There’s a couple of others and for the life of me I can’t remember their names.......HELP 😁😁 Players like Geoff Salmon could drop a cross a ball onto a sixpence but I wouldn’t call him an out and out winger. Paul Maguire a winger? Beagrie |
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Post by Sfance on Aug 27, 2020 0:25:44 GMT
Tim Coleman
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Post by kustokie on Aug 27, 2020 1:12:20 GMT
how about a cheeky bid for victor moses That’s not as daft as it sounds. He played alongside Mikkel at Chelsea and they are both from Nigeria. Maybe he can put in a word. just looked him up. He’s been with Chelsea since 2012 but played virtually the whole time on loan. Why not go for him? |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 27, 2020 8:28:49 GMT
In my lifetime some of the stand out “wingers” that would hug the line and get a cross in were Don Ratcliffe, Harry Burrows, Jimmy Robertson, Mark Chamberlain. There’s a couple of others and for the life of me I can’t remember their names.......HELP 😁😁 Players like Geoff Salmon could drop a cross a ball onto a sixpence but I wouldn’t call him an out and out winger. Paul Maguire a winger? Beagrie Thank you. I bloody couldn’t think of his name👍 |
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Post by bolders on Aug 27, 2020 8:43:34 GMT
On the plus side, Jones would not cost a huge amount, you'd feel, and the sway of playing for MON again, who knows him already, could be a big plus for us if we are interested in him. It could be a low cost, low risk gamble compared to some of the ridiculous ones we have taken in the not so distant past! I’d be cheeky and go for him on loan lol |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 27, 2020 9:17:26 GMT
Excellent question. I started watching football in the early 70s when 442 was pretty much the only formation played in England so Terry Conroy is my model for a winger - go outside the fullback and whip in a cross. We've had quite a few of this type of winger over the years but the last two of this type for me were Etherington and Pennant - although you could make an arguement for McClean. The turning point for me watching Stoke was Hoekstra - our first winger who played more like an inside forward. In my lifetime some of the stand out “wingers” that would hug the line and get a cross in were Don Ratcliffe, Harry Burrows, Jimmy Robertson, Mark Chamberlain. There’s a couple of others and for the life of me I can’t remember their names.......HELP 😁😁 Players like Geoff Salmon could drop a cross a ball onto a sixpence but I wouldn’t call him an out and out winger. Paul Maguire a winger? I recall Maguire playing wide but I wouldn't have called him a winger. In terms of old school wingers Bjani Gudjohnsson was one - he got a lot of stick but I thought he was decent at that level. To be honest the only other one that comes to mind is Assiadi. Oh and maybe Tony Ford? |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 27, 2020 9:24:47 GMT
In my lifetime some of the stand out “wingers” that would hug the line and get a cross in were Don Ratcliffe, Harry Burrows, Jimmy Robertson, Mark Chamberlain. There’s a couple of others and for the life of me I can’t remember their names.......HELP 😁😁 Players like Geoff Salmon could drop a cross a ball onto a sixpence but I wouldn’t call him an out and out winger. Paul Maguire a winger? I recall Maguire playing wide but I wouldn't have called him a winger. In terms of old school wingers Bjani Gudjohnsson was one - he got a lot of stick but I thought he was decent at that level. To be honest the only other one that comes to mind is Assiadi. Oh and maybe Tony Ford? Peter Hoekstra? |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 27, 2020 9:46:10 GMT
Doubt we made an offer. Surely his wages wouldn't be a problem, but the fee obviously was. Mallik Wilks for me!!!!
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 27, 2020 9:59:49 GMT
Doubt we made an offer. Surely his wages wouldn't be a problem, but the fee obviously was. Mallik Wilks for me!!!! Hull paid £1m for him, didn't they? Would they take a loss on him? He's probably out of range too at the moment. We'l probably be looking at Bosmans/loans, won't we? |
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Post by FullerMagic on Aug 27, 2020 10:08:47 GMT
Welsh press claim we were one of the clubs in for Lowe
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2020 10:34:42 GMT
Welsh press claim we were one of the clubs in for Lowe If it's true then that's a blow. These hangers on are killing us. Interesting that Big To has come out and heaped praise on MON this week. I bet he has! |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 27, 2020 10:46:17 GMT
Doubt we made an offer. Surely his wages wouldn't be a problem, but the fee obviously was. Mallik Wilks for me!!!! Hull paid £1m for him, didn't they? Would they take a loss on him? He's probably out of range too at the moment. We'l probably be looking at Bosmans/loans, won't we? I think no money will be spent until we get rid, but yes, loan most likely which is where Murphy comes in. Can't see us actually selling anyone unless it's Jack and we'd need to spend that on a replacement. |
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Post by AlliG on Aug 27, 2020 11:01:14 GMT
In my lifetime some of the stand out “wingers” that would hug the line and get a cross in were Don Ratcliffe, Harry Burrows, Jimmy Robertson, Mark Chamberlain. There’s a couple of others and for the life of me I can’t remember their names.......HELP 😁😁 Players like Geoff Salmon could drop a cross a ball onto a sixpence but I wouldn’t call him an out and out winger. Paul Maguire a winger? I recall Maguire playing wide but I wouldn't have called him a winger. In terms of old school wingers Bjani Gudjohnsson was one - he got a lot of stick but I thought he was decent at that level. To be honest the only other one that comes to mind is Assiadi. Oh and maybe Tony Ford? Tony Ford was no winger. He was the epitome of the modern wide midfield player. He was basically a right side version of James McClean. |
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 27, 2020 11:18:21 GMT
I recall Maguire playing wide but I wouldn't have called him a winger. In terms of old school wingers Bjani Gudjohnsson was one - he got a lot of stick but I thought he was decent at that level. To be honest the only other one that comes to mind is Assiadi. Oh and maybe Tony Ford? Tony Ford was no winger. He was the epitome of the modern wide midfield player. He was basically a right side version of James McClean. I think you're probably right - but I do recall him putting in some decent crosses so maybe I selectively misremembered his game. |
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Post by lordb on Aug 27, 2020 11:49:03 GMT
I recall Maguire playing wide but I wouldn't have called him a winger. In terms of old school wingers Bjani Gudjohnsson was one - he got a lot of stick but I thought he was decent at that level. To be honest the only other one that comes to mind is Assiadi. Oh and maybe Tony Ford? Tony Ford was no winger. He was the epitome of the modern wide midfield player. He was basically a right side version of James McClean. Much better player but yes not a winger |
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Post by owdestokie2 on Aug 27, 2020 12:30:10 GMT
Before my time. Don Ratcliffe being the 1st |
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Post by 1948fitch on Aug 27, 2020 14:30:13 GMT
Excellent question. I started watching football in the early 70s when 442 was pretty much the only formation played in England so Terry Conroy is my model for a winger - go outside the fullback and whip in a cross. We've had quite a few of this type of winger over the years but the last two of this type for me were Etherington and Pennant - although you could make an arguement for McClean. The turning point for me watching Stoke was Hoekstra - our first winger who played more like an inside forward. In my lifetime some of the stand out “wingers” that would hug the line and get a cross in were Don Ratcliffe, Harry Burrows, Jimmy Robertson, Mark Chamberlain. There’s a couple of others and for the life of me I can’t remember their names.......HELP 😁😁 Players like Geoff Salmon could drop a cross a ball onto a sixpence but I wouldn’t call him an out and out winger. Paul Maguire a winger? Bebbington and Woodward ?
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 8, 2020 13:43:18 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2020 14:14:55 GMT
Was thinking of Brentford earlier. He's a perfect, model ready replacement for Mbuemo and/or Benrahma. They could even afford to take him with the Watkins money and sit him in and around the bench like they did with Watkins a few years ago. The fact that a 2M player is out of our price range, so soon after relegation and parachute payments, is absolutely criminal. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 8, 2020 15:01:42 GMT
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Post by RAF on Sept 8, 2020 15:11:50 GMT
What’s the definition of a “winger” and how many “wingers” have we had in the last 50 years?. Names please. :D Excellent question. I started watching football in the early 70s when 442 was pretty much the only formation played in England so Terry Conroy is my model for a winger - go outside the fullback and whip in a cross. We've had quite a few of this type of winger over the years but the last two of this type for me were Etherington and Pennant - although you could make an arguement for McClean. The turning point for me watching Stoke was Hoekstra - our first winger who played more like an inside forward. I've not seen McClean outpace anyone. I have seen Burton's fullback take the piss out of him. He is not a winger in my book. A real winger for me has pace, which he does not. H |
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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 8, 2020 18:16:08 GMT
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