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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 11, 2020 11:27:30 GMT
I never said there was! Amazing how people will make up their own arguments! You're right it is Dawn Butler's word against the police. Something which has apparently triggered outrage on the EEB once again, leading to several posters wanting to see her variously tasered, slapped or just verbally abused! And how is it personally slanderous? If I'd said you were a racist that would be libellous, potentially, not slanderous, but since I didn't and thought of you more in the "I'm not racist, but..." camp, since you freely admitted you'd stick your money on the police being right not the black, female Labour MP. But while we're talking of betting, I think it's a safe one that most of those who also don't think of themselves as remotely racist on here but always seem to be on the side attacking any claim of discrimination by non-white people would agree with you. Crapslinger will be along in a second to prove the point... I haven’t used the word Black whatsoever nor have I used the word female as a derogatory term. The only thing swaying my opinion as yet is Ms Butlers proven track record of lying for personal gain. Again, I never said you had. I'm simply expressing my opinion about the preponderance of certain posters who are always to be found on race threads, nearly always weighing in on the side attacking any claim of discrimination by non-white people. To me it seems very much like the "I'm not racist, but" approach that some people adopt, usually before going on to be precisely that!
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Post by walstoke on Aug 11, 2020 11:28:00 GMT
You keep bringing up the same quote despite no-one actually saying it You can't make a constructive point just repeating the same old nonsense I think we know why that is Ken Marsh has seen the incident and wants us all to see it. You obviously know better what happened They don't really have to say it, it's pretty evident from every thread involving race relations. Nearly always the same posters weighing in on whichever side is attacking or lessening the validity of any claim or cause by anyone non-white. I'm sure there are enough on the first page of the EEB to allow you to assess who the regular contributors are on these types of thread. It's pretty consistent, and can be wrapped up in a general "I'm not racist, but..." approach. I'm sure it's just their opinion, which is fair enough, and they no doubt consider themselves completely non-racist in everything they do, but like I said, you don't have to go around openly calling people n*ggers or P*kis to have a racist approach to life in general. I can't remember the same bunch of posters getting anywhere near as vexed over say Charlie Elphicke MP (a convicted sex offender). I wonder why that doesn't enrage them quite as much as a black, female, Labour MP who has, as far as we know to date, not actually done anything wrong. I don't think she did anything wrong, it's what she said and implied by it. As soon she started comparing her being stopped with white people being stopped, she lost my support. To me she stinks of racist bigot.
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 11, 2020 11:29:30 GMT
Come on now it was certainly balanced Buttlers got a chip on both shoulders Black person with a chip on their shoulder. Racist trope number 667 goes in to everyday EE board parlance. Oohh you dont half work yourself up into a tizzy dont ya? Keep going Im enjoying it !
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 11, 2020 11:38:57 GMT
I haven’t used the word Black whatsoever nor have I used the word female as a derogatory term. The only thing swaying my opinion as yet is Ms Butlers proven track record of lying for personal gain. Again, I never said you had. I'm simply expressing my opinion about the preponderance of certain posters who are always to be found on race threads, nearly always weighing in on the side attacking any claim of discrimination by non-white people. To me it seems very much like the "I'm not racist, but" approach that some people adopt, usually before going on to be precisely that! You didn’t say but you clearly implied that I am a racist who doesn’t know he’s a racist, and now all of a sudden sexist by using the words black female in a bid to divert attention away from the fact that Ms Butlers story and footage proves nothing thus far. To throw a blanket over everybody who has alternative views to yourself is at best ignorant. I don’t doubt there are some posters who have some extreme views. I’m not one of them, fairness and equality are what I’m after. I’m going to leave this thread now until hopefully the police body cam footage comes out. Have a nice day👋🏻
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 11, 2020 11:44:23 GMT
Black person with a chip on their shoulder. Racist trope number 667 goes in to everyday EE board parlance. Oohh you dont half work yourself up into a tizzy dont ya? Keep going Im enjoying it ! No tizz here, watching the masks slip and true views exposed is disappointing but like a motorway pile up, not without some sort of morbid fascination.
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 11, 2020 11:46:37 GMT
Then why post those comments in reply to one of my posts? I'm no more responsible for there views or posts than I am yours I see. I was making a general comment on the reaction of some other posters on the thread, not yourself. I'm happy to make that clear. Thank you
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 11:55:42 GMT
I haven’t used the word Black whatsoever nor have I used the word female as a derogatory term. The only thing swaying my opinion as yet is Ms Butlers proven track record of lying for personal gain. Again, I never said you had. I'm simply expressing my opinion about the preponderance of certain posters who are always to be found on race threads, nearly always weighing in on the side attacking any claim of discrimination by non-white people. To me it seems very much like the "I'm not racist, but" approach that some people adopt, usually before going on to be precisely that! Change therecord Seems no one can disagree with the actions of people of a different colour without someone spouting that stupid cliche.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 11, 2020 12:08:34 GMT
I'm literally just making up what you wrote on that thread and highlighting my bias. You're the one who reduces threads to slanging matches so with regard to your question, right back at you 😊 Tidied for you. No need for any thanks. Not made up mate, it was there as clear as day.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 11, 2020 12:15:00 GMT
Again, I never said you had. I'm simply expressing my opinion about the preponderance of certain posters who are always to be found on race threads, nearly always weighing in on the side attacking any claim of discrimination by non-white people. To me it seems very much like the "I'm not racist, but" approach that some people adopt, usually before going on to be precisely that! You didn’t say but you clearly implied that I am a racist who doesn’t know he’s a racist, and now all of a sudden sexist by using the words black female in a bid to divert attention away from the fact that Ms Butlers story and footage proves nothing thus far. To throw a blanket over everybody who has alternative views to yourself is at best ignorant. I don’t doubt there are some posters who have some extreme views. I’m not one of them, fairness and equality are what I’m after. I’m going to leave this thread now until hopefully the police body cam footage comes out. Have a nice day👋🏻 I suspect there a lot of people on this board who don't consider themselves to be racists. Like I said, you don't have to go around openly calling people n*ggers and P*kis to have a broadly racist view on life. You're right I didn't say you were a racist or a sexist. However, there are certain posters on the EEB who are always to be found on race threads weighing in on the side which is having a go at the non-white side of the debate. That being the case, I said I wasn't surprised where you'd stick your money in terms of this issue. The same place all the other posters who wade in on the same side would stick their money, that presumably doesn't come as a shock. I'd consider wanting someone tasered, slapped, called a bitch, despite not apparently doing anything wrong is symptomatic of a bit of a problem generally. When it's directed towards a black, female, Labour MP and none of the vociferous posters could be arsed to get as outraged over a white, male, Tory MP who was actually convicted of something, then that looks a bit suspect to me. I can kind of understand why they don't consider themselves racist in those circumstances.
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Post by serpico on Aug 11, 2020 12:16:10 GMT
When your criteria for someone being racist is that they disagree with you you’re going to see racists everywhere, in reality racism is at an all time low in this country, it’s by far one of the least racist countries in the world, probably in history, it’s unprecedented to have people of so many different ethnicities living together more or less in harmony, but the leftists need a divide, a paradigm for their divisive politics, they need and want racism to exist.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 11, 2020 12:16:34 GMT
Black person with a chip on their shoulder. Racist trope number 667 goes in to everyday EE board parlance. Oohh you dont half work yourself up into a tizzy dont ya? Keep going Im enjoying it ! Welcome to 'the gang' mate 😂 Your armband and Skrewdriver CD are in the post.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 11, 2020 12:18:20 GMT
When your criteria for someone being racist is that they disagree with you you’re going to see racists everywhere, in reality racism is at an all time low in this country, it’s by far one of the least racist countries in the world, probably in history, it’s unprecedented to have people of so many different ethnicities living together more or less in harmony, but the leftists need a divide, a paradigm for their divisive politics, they need and want racism to exist. Quite. For such a racist, intolerant country we remain such a popular destination... 🤔
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 11, 2020 12:31:07 GMT
Racism at an 'all time low' is certainly a way of putting it that Liar Johnson and Cunty Cummings would be proud of. The reality of course is that hate crime has doubled in the past 5 years.
Racists in this country are emboldened by Brexit and the carefully scripted rhetoric of this abhorrent Government.
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Post by questionable on Aug 11, 2020 12:57:03 GMT
Racism at an 'all time low' is certainly a way of putting it that Liar Johnson and Cunty Cummings would be proud of. The reality of course is that hate crime has doubled in the past 5 years. Racists in this country are emboldened by Brexit and the carefully scripted rhetoric of this abhorrent Government. I voted for Brexit because I’m pissed off with having our hands tied by some jumped up little pricks in Belgium telling us what we can/can’t do and yes how we control our borders.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 11, 2020 13:05:47 GMT
Racism at an 'all time low' is certainly a way of putting it that Liar Johnson and Cunty Cummings would be proud of. The reality of course is that hate crime has doubled in the past 5 years. Racists in this country are emboldened by Brexit and the carefully scripted rhetoric of this abhorrent Government. I voted for Brexit because I’m pissed off with having our hands tied by some jumped up little pricks in Belgium telling us what we can/can’t do and yes how we control our borders. People who voted for Brexit aren't racist but the process and deliberate language around it has certainly emboldened those of a racist inclination. The stats don't lie
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 13:19:48 GMT
I voted for Brexit because I’m pissed off with having our hands tied by some jumped up little pricks in Belgium telling us what we can/can’t do and yes how we control our borders. People who voted for Brexit aren't racist but the process and deliberate language around it has certainly emboldened those of a racist inclination. The stats don't lie Your energy would be better spent adding italics and smilies than arguing with these mate That Yorkshire translator bloke did a good job at winding them up using very little effort too.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 11, 2020 13:28:56 GMT
When your criteria for someone being racist is that they disagree with you you’re going to see racists everywhere, in reality racism is at an all time low in this country, it’s by far one of the least racist countries in the world, probably in history, it’s unprecedented to have people of so many different ethnicities living together more or less in harmony, but the leftists need a divide, a paradigm for their divisive politics, they need and want racism to exist. It's not being disagreed with that is the criterion. What are your thoughts on wanting a black, female Labour MP tasered, slapped, called a bitch, despite not apparently doing anything wrong when compared to a distinct lack of reaction by the same posters towards a white, male, Tory MP who was actually convicted of sexual offences? Just an oversight or coincidence? Or perhaps they were all just joking? I think it typifies the underlying thinking and general approach to these types of stories and is quite indicative. I have a similar reaction towards anything Arsenal related...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 14:29:06 GMT
When your criteria for someone being racist is that they disagree with you you’re going to see racists everywhere, in reality racism is at an all time low in this country, it’s by far one of the least racist countries in the world, probably in history, it’s unprecedented to have people of so many different ethnicities living together more or less in harmony, but the leftists need a divide, a paradigm for their divisive politics, they need and want racism to exist. It's not being disagreed with that is the criterion. What are your thoughts on wanting a black, female Labour MP tasered, slapped, called a bitch, despite not apparently doing anything wrong when compared to a distinct lack of reaction by the same posters towards a white, male, Tory MP who was actually convicted of sexual offences? Just an oversight or coincidence? Or perhaps they were all just joking? I think it typifies the underlying thinking and general approach to these types of stories and is quite indicative. I have a similar reaction towards anything Arsenal related... So basically it depends on their political persuasion who you stick up for. Sad way to live. Had Dawn Butler been Tory you'd have ripped her to shreds with ToTo behind you
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 11, 2020 15:02:31 GMT
Evidently so, otherwise why would you ignore the convicted sex pest and jump all over this story?
I guess that's how the problem persists, people just don't consider that they think or act in ways which are part of the problem.
Interesting isn't it, that, so far, not a single one of those people who aren't racists (or sexists) and get fed up with being indirectly lumped in with them has seen fit to say one word about tasering, slapping and verbally abusing this black woman...
With the notable exception of wagsastokie.
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Post by Kilo on Aug 11, 2020 15:47:09 GMT
Evidently so, otherwise why would you ignore the convicted sex pest and jump all over this story?I guess that's how the problem persists, people just don't consider that they think or act in ways which are part of the problem. Interesting isn't it, that, so far, not a single one of those people who aren't racists (or sexists) and get fed up with being indirectly lumped in with them has seen fit to say one word about tasering, slapping and verbally abusing this black woman... With the notable exception of wagsastokie. I'd assume it's something to do with the title of the thread.
Why don't you start a new thread about the Tory convicted sex pest and then when people haven't mentioned the convicted Labour peadophile you can call them racist as well.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 11, 2020 16:41:16 GMT
Evidently so, otherwise why would you ignore the convicted sex pest and jump all over this story? I guess that's how the problem persists, people just don't consider that they think or act in ways which are part of the problem. Interesting isn't it, that, so far, not a single one of those people who aren't racists (or sexists) and get fed up with being indirectly lumped in with them has seen fit to say one word about tasering, slapping and verbally abusing this black woman... With the notable exception of wagsastokie. I'm invoking Momo's Whataboutery Act 2020, to whit: 'you can't answer a question on a specific topic if it's unrelated to the thread it's posted on. All such questions must be put onto a seperate thread.' Well, I think he put it a little more belligerently than that, but those are the bare bones. Momo was very passionate about this the other day, so I'm just doing as I'm told. Seeing as you're so interested in Charlie Elphicke though, perhaps you could follow kilo's advice and start a thread on it? I suspect you won't as you're 100% baseless waffle and zero substance but we live in hope! 😊
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 11, 2020 16:44:54 GMT
Oohh you dont half work yourself up into a tizzy dont ya? Keep going Im enjoying it ! Welcome to 'the gang' mate 😂 Your armband and Skrewdriver CD are in the post. Cheers ..... now where’s my pointy white hood ?? 😂😂
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Post by walstoke on Aug 11, 2020 17:23:43 GMT
Evidently so, otherwise why would you ignore the convicted sex pest and jump all over this story? I guess that's how the problem persists, people just don't consider that they think or act in ways which are part of the problem. Interesting isn't it, that, so far, not a single one of those people who aren't racists (or sexists) and get fed up with being indirectly lumped in with them has seen fit to say one word about tasering, slapping and verbally abusing this black woman... With the notable exception of wagsastokie. the sex pest faced justice, this woman's attempts at more division will never face justice, the reason? Coz it's become very vogue to be anti white, even by leftie white people. Whatever you say, racism isn't rife, class prejudice is, no matter what skin colour. When people realise that extreme politics on both right and left are to blame for division, we may move on, until then, enjoy believing your right.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 11, 2020 17:29:25 GMT
Evidently so, otherwise why would you ignore the convicted sex pest and jump all over this story?I guess that's how the problem persists, people just don't consider that they think or act in ways which are part of the problem. Interesting isn't it, that, so far, not a single one of those people who aren't racists (or sexists) and get fed up with being indirectly lumped in with them has seen fit to say one word about tasering, slapping and verbally abusing this black woman... With the notable exception of wagsastokie. I'd assume it's something to do with the title of the thread.
Why don't you start a new thread about the Tory convicted sex pest and then when people haven't mentioned the convicted Labour peadophile you can call them racist as well. It's an interesting point. Maybe because the idea of starting a thread about a convicted Tory sex offender isn't quite as, how shall we say, 'need-satisfying' for me and most other folk as starting one about a black female Labour MPs who's apparently done nothing wrong! Which lots of posters who aren't racist or sexist couldn't wait to climb all over with their delightful ideas of tasering, slapping and abusing her. It's a topic that's also been covered in the "This government is an utter shambles" thread so to start another one seems a bit pointless?
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 11, 2020 17:32:21 GMT
Evidently so, otherwise why would you ignore the convicted sex pest and jump all over this story? I guess that's how the problem persists, people just don't consider that they think or act in ways which are part of the problem. Interesting isn't it, that, so far, not a single one of those people who aren't racists (or sexists) and get fed up with being indirectly lumped in with them has seen fit to say one word about tasering, slapping and verbally abusing this black woman... With the notable exception of wagsastokie. the sex pest faced justice, this woman's attempts at more division will never face justice, the reason? Coz it's become very vogue to be anti white, even by leftie white people. Whatever you say, racism isn't rife, class prejudice is, no matter what skin colour. When people realise that extreme politics on both right and left are to blame for division, we may move on, until then, enjoy believing your right. Or more likely the fact that she's not actually broken any laws so doesn't need to face justice, whereas Elphicke is a convicted sex offender so does? I agree class prejudice is rife, like believing you're not subject to the same rules as normal people for example, although be careful as you're verging into whataboutery (whatever that is!) territory which is apparently not allowed any more...
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 11, 2020 17:52:02 GMT
the sex pest faced justice, this woman's attempts at more division will never face justice, the reason? Coz it's become very vogue to be anti white, even by leftie white people. Whatever you say, racism isn't rife, class prejudice is, no matter what skin colour. When people realise that extreme politics on both right and left are to blame for division, we may move on, until then, enjoy believing your right. Or more likely the fact that she's not actually broken any laws so doesn't need to face justice, whereas Elphicke is a convicted sex offender so does? I agree class prejudice is rife, like believing you're not subject to the same rules as normal people for example, although be careful as you're verging into whataboutery (whatever that is!) territory which is apparently not allowed any more... Clearly the press think it’s more important as it’s received far more air time than the aforementioned sexual assault or numerous murders in London. This in my opinion is the biggest issue in relation to the press, Sky and BBC making what should be footnotes into front page stories (with the help of the “victim”) mainly to make the Met look like racists and what should be big stories like the sexual assault by a Tory and the huge number of murders in London into footnotes. So I guess by starting this thread I’m simply mirroring the U.K. press and TV not something that I should he doing granted.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 11, 2020 18:12:40 GMT
Evidently so, otherwise why would you ignore the convicted sex pest and jump all over this story? I guess that's how the problem persists, people just don't consider that they think or act in ways which are part of the problem. Interesting isn't it, that, so far, not a single one of those people who aren't racists (or sexists) and get fed up with being indirectly lumped in with them has seen fit to say one word about tasering, slapping and verbally abusing this black woman... With the notable exception of wagsastokie. I'm invoking Momo's Whataboutery Act 2020, to whit: 'you can't answer a question on a specific topic if it's unrelated to the thread it's posted on. All such questions must be put onto a seperate thread.' Well, I think he put it a little more belligerently than that, but those are the bare bones. Momo was very passionate about this the other day, so I'm just doing as I'm told. Seeing as you're so interested in Charlie Elphicke though, perhaps you could follow kilo's advice and start a thread on it? I suspect you won't as you're 100% baseless waffle and zero substance but we live in hope! 😊 Yeah your inclination to move on to different subjects on a thread slagging off a black woman is strangely absent voidy. Can't think why
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 11, 2020 18:20:09 GMT
Welcome to 'the gang' mate 😂 Your armband and Skrewdriver CD are in the post. Cheers ..... now where’s my pointy white hood ?? 😂😂 It's vests more than hoods for your type these days .
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Post by thevoid on Aug 11, 2020 19:16:23 GMT
I'm invoking Momo's Whataboutery Act 2020, to whit: 'you can't answer a question on a specific topic if it's unrelated to the thread it's posted on. All such questions must be put onto a seperate thread.' Well, I think he put it a little more belligerently than that, but those are the bare bones. Momo was very passionate about this the other day, so I'm just doing as I'm told. Seeing as you're so interested in Charlie Elphicke though, perhaps you could follow kilo's advice and start a thread on it? I suspect you won't as you're 100% baseless waffle and zero substance but we live in hope! 😊 Yeah your inclination to move on to different subjects on a thread slagging off a black woman is strangely absent voidy. Can't think why Only because this thread hasn't been locked over one of your meltdowns yet 😊 EDIT and if it this story and chain of events concerned a Tory MP (black or white) you'd be demanding trial by fire and for full footage to be released. Don't try and deny it 😁
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 11, 2020 19:25:39 GMT
Yeah your inclination to move on to different subjects on a thread slagging off a black woman is strangely absent voidy. Can't think why Only because this thread hasn't been locked over one of your meltdowns yet 😊 I had you down as a lot of things but a 'give it but can't take it', mardarse is a new departure
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