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Post by mattyd2 on Aug 10, 2020 15:28:40 GMT
Even if this was the case do you not think from her response that she’s trying to manipulate a situation. Rather than allowing the officer to apologise and move on she’s decided to milk the stop for all its worth and thrown her weight around re her being an MP. Re the driver we’ll see in time but yet again only when the body cam is revealed will we have the true story. Editing her video certainly makes me suspicious especially when it was initially released it showed her as the driver. Also if the rear window was tinted how could they see who was driving? The Met have issued an apology yet #sackdawnbutler is trending on Twitter with a huge over index of morons with union jacks in their bio's. Racism is one of the few things currently thriving in the UK. You hate The Union Jack don't ya Sheikhy Lad... To you it's a symbol of Racism. To me it's a symbol of being proud to be British.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 10, 2020 15:31:52 GMT
God forbid someone has their national flag on their Twitter handle. It should be Palestinian or EU. It triggers a certain section (self hating guardian readers) of the left, they loathe the flag and this country to its core. Dawn Butler seems delighted that she's been pulled over, she has a huge cheshire cat grin on her face, probably couldn't wait to fire it up on twitter and make a big stink over it. I wonder if it's a British thing or does the opposition in, say, France loathe the Tricolour? I've seen quite a few non-white people on Twitter with the UJ on their profile. Which is nice to see but not too surprising if they're British. No one seemed to mind when Stormzy had one on his stab vest...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 15:37:15 GMT
It triggers a certain section (self hating guardian readers) of the left, they loathe the flag and this country to its core. Dawn Butler seems delighted that she's been pulled over, she has a huge cheshire cat grin on her face, probably couldn't wait to fire it up on twitter and make a big stink over it. I wonder if it's a British thing or does the opposition in, say, France loathe the Tricolour? I've seen quite a few non-white people on Twitter with the UJ on their profile. Which is nice to see but not too surprising if they're British. No one seemed to mind when Stormzy had one on his stab vest... Strange yes. You see Americans flying their flags outside their homes and being patriotic. Someone does it here and some pin head calls you racist. Not British myself but how on earth could a flag of your nation be racist? It's people with comments like that who are the issue
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 15:39:54 GMT
She was loving every fucking second of it. come into my web said the spider to the fly. The big elephant in the room is the fact that yes, black people are stopped more than whites, BUT...they also commit more crime. Are they though ? We just hear about it more In that area then you have to look at the stats, only 36% are white.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 10, 2020 15:42:47 GMT
I wonder if it's a British thing or does the opposition in, say, France loathe the Tricolour? I've seen quite a few non-white people on Twitter with the UJ on their profile. Which is nice to see but not too surprising if they're British. No one seemed to mind when Stormzy had one on his stab vest... Strange yes. You see Americans flying their flags outside their homes and being patriotic. Someone does it here and some pin head calls you racist. Not British myself but how on earth could a flag of your nation be racist? It's people with comments like that who are the issue Ironically the only flag I have on my Facebook profile is a Spanish one as I'm a fully paid up Hispanophile. But to hate your own nation's flag seems a bit strange to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 15:47:31 GMT
Strange yes. You see Americans flying their flags outside their homes and being patriotic. Someone does it here and some pin head calls you racist. Not British myself but how on earth could a flag of your nation be racist? It's people with comments like that who are the issue Ironically the only flag I have on my Facebook profile is a Spanish one as I'm a fully paid up Hispanophile. But to hate your own nation's flag seems a bit strange to me. Crikey Are you allowed near Spanish schools ?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 10, 2020 16:04:58 GMT
The Met have issued an apology yet #sackdawnbutler is trending on Twitter with a huge over index of morons with union jacks in their bio's. Racism is one of the few things currently thriving in the UK. You hate The Union Jack don't ya Sheikhy Lad... To you it's a symbol of Racism. To me it's a symbol of being proud to be British. It certainly a badge of honour for a certain 'type' on social media. The type who want a black woman sacked for getting stopped by the police. The type who start sentences with 'I'm not racist but..' The type who when you click through to their account, hope migrant children in dinghies in the Channel drown. The type who tend to dominate on here.
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Post by thevoid on Aug 10, 2020 16:04:59 GMT
Ironically the only flag I have on my Facebook profile is a Spanish one as I'm a fully paid up Hispanophile. But to hate your own nation's flag seems a bit strange to me. Crikey Are you allowed near Spanish schools ? What do they call someone who likes pediatricians? 😎
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 10, 2020 16:32:32 GMT
Crikey Are you allowed near Spanish schools ? What do they call someone who likes pediatricians? 😎 An oddball?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 10, 2020 16:35:28 GMT
You hate The Union Jack don't ya Sheikhy Lad... To you it's a symbol of Racism. To me it's a symbol of being proud to be British. It certainly a badge of honour for a certain 'type' on social media. The type who want a black woman sacked for getting stopped by the police. The type who start sentences with 'I'm not racist but..' The type who when you click through to their account, hope migrant children in dinghies in the Channel drown. The type who tend to dominate on here. But not all. I remember the many streets parties to celebrate a jubilee or royal wedding where they were waved furiously or where Ken Bailey would Don his UJ waistcoat to celebrate a World Cup win. It should not be identified as a symbol of racism but as something celebrating patriotism.
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 10, 2020 16:43:05 GMT
You hate The Union Jack don't ya Sheikhy Lad... To you it's a symbol of Racism. To me it's a symbol of being proud to be British. It certainly a badge of honour for a certain 'type' on social media. The type who want a black woman sacked for getting stopped by the police. The type who start sentences with 'I'm not racist but..' The type who when you click through to their account, hope migrant children in dinghies in the Channel drown. The type who tend to dominate on here. I'm intrigued who's said they hope migrant children drown because if they had there a complete twat I'm also intrigued in who has said they want buttler sacked for being stopped Now I will admit there are a few who think she should be fired for being a touch Liberal with the truth I can't agree as we would have no politicians left I think she should be sacked for the same reason lammy should be sacked there bigots
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Post by Rick Grimes on Aug 10, 2020 16:51:50 GMT
A lot of fuss about nothing really.
According to the Met Office, in 2019/20 Stop and Search tactics resulted in almost 65,000 criminal acts being discovered and 34,000 arrests.
It’s inevitable that they’re going to stop the wrong people from time to time, does that mean they shouldn’t do it at all?
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Post by claytonscrubs on Aug 10, 2020 17:44:19 GMT
They put the reg plate in and it flagged up, the policeman then explained politely that he had the reg plate out by 1 digit. The driver was white, how can it be race profiling as she is making out ? If you read my post you will see nothing about racial profiling. ”If you read my post you will see nothing about racial profiling”?... Duh! That’s what this thread is all about, fella. Butler basically accused the police of being institutionally racist...What a vile race-baiting creature! I’m looking forward to seeing the footage of the police body cam...should be interesting. On a lighter note, I see foster’s latest avatar is dedicated to you! 😄
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Post by vokeswagen on Aug 10, 2020 19:20:25 GMT
I can see both sides to this. On the one hand, "driving a car registered in Yorkshire" was not, last time I checked, an especially valid initial reason for police to pull someone over. There must be cars registered all over the show driving round London every second of every day. Why that one? But on the other I'm not convinced it's a racist thing as has been implied in some quarters. Time to move on. Of course, no great surprise it's attracted far greater ire on here than any number of anti-establishment conspiracy theories from, say, Tommy Robinson or Katie Hopkins...
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Post by dutchstokie on Aug 10, 2020 19:25:59 GMT
It triggers a certain section (self hating guardian readers) of the left, they loathe the flag and this country to its core. Dawn Butler seems delighted that she's been pulled over, she has a huge cheshire cat grin on her face, probably couldn't wait to fire it up on twitter and make a big stink over it. I wonder if it's a British thing or does the opposition in, say, France loathe the Tricolour? I've seen quite a few non-white people on Twitter with the UJ on their profile. Which is nice to see but not too surprising if they're British. No one seemed to mind when Stormzy had one on his stab vest... Ah thats different you see…..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2020 20:04:40 GMT
The Met have issued an apology yet #sackdawnbutler is trending on Twitter with a huge over index of morons with union jacks in their bio's. Racism is one of the few things currently thriving in the UK. You hate The Union Jack don't ya Sheikhy Lad... To you it's a symbol of Racism. To me it's a symbol of being proud to be British. Why does a small square of cloth with a British flag on it make you proud to be British just out of interest? I don’t hate the Union Jack but it certainly doesn’t envoke any special feelings of patriotism either. I find it all a bit weird to be honest......
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Post by richie22 on Aug 10, 2020 20:24:16 GMT
I got followed this morning on the way to work, 0300-0315 outskirts of Crewe, m6 access shut for works so headed off thru town and toward middlewich. Passed the bmw estate who did a quick about turn and followed at a distance of about 100 ft. This went on thru various rat runs to the middlewich road by Bentley , at which point he turned off . And I carried on to work, panic over. This story is pointless to normal people a lot like the whining old bat of an MP, get a grip , the police are entitled to stop you if they want, your driver is clearly ‘white’ you have blacked out windows but you still insist on creating your social media martyr crap. Victim victim victim.... get a grip woman. I hope she gets dragged over the coals for attempting to create a small insignificant shit storm
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 11, 2020 6:15:15 GMT
I got followed this morning on the way to work, 0300-0315 outskirts of Crewe, m6 access shut for works so headed off thru town and toward middlewich. Passed the bmw estate who did a quick about turn and followed at a distance of about 100 ft. This went on thru various rat runs to the middlewich road by Bentley , at which point he turned off . And I carried on to work, panic over. This story is pointless to normal people a lot like the whining old bat of an MP, get a grip , the police are entitled to stop you if they want, your driver is clearly ‘white’ you have blacked out windows but you still insist on creating your social media martyr crap. Victim victim victim.... get a grip woman. I hope she gets dragged over the coals for attempting to create a small insignificant shit storm Well she has stated live on British TV the driver was black Either you myself and many others are mistaken Of she is bing a tad economic with the truth
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Post by richie22 on Aug 11, 2020 6:41:14 GMT
I got followed this morning on the way to work, 0300-0315 outskirts of Crewe, m6 access shut for works so headed off thru town and toward middlewich. Passed the bmw estate who did a quick about turn and followed at a distance of about 100 ft. This went on thru various rat runs to the middlewich road by Bentley , at which point he turned off . And I carried on to work, panic over. This story is pointless to normal people a lot like the whining old bat of an MP, get a grip , the police are entitled to stop you if they want, your driver is clearly ‘white’ you have blacked out windows but you still insist on creating your social media martyr crap. Victim victim victim.... get a grip woman. I hope she gets dragged over the coals for attempting to create a small insignificant shit storm Well she has stated live on British TV the driver was black Either you myself and many others are mistaken Of she is bing a tad economic with the truth I could be wrong , I am a touch colour blind.
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Post by Gods on Aug 11, 2020 6:56:16 GMT
I've seen a video where she's filming an officer and herself, driver is blurred out but clearly white They are saying the driver was black. But black tends to mean not wholly white.
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Post by mattyd2 on Aug 11, 2020 9:04:28 GMT
They are saying the driver was black. But black tends to mean not wholly white. Bit of a Grey Area Though his white neck and white arms do tend to suggest he's white, having said that Michael Jacmson had white hands...
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 11, 2020 9:06:18 GMT
So what do we know so far...
Black, female Labour MP is in a car which is pulled over by the Met Police. (I suspect the first three words of this sentence are the real source of the self-righteous indignation). MP alleges racist profiling for the stop. Met accepts MP's 'very balanced account of the incident'. Officer involved apologised at the time of the stop.
Meanwhile, the usual Oatcake "I'm not racist, but..." pitchfork mob weighs in with wanting her to be "slapped and sent on her way", "tasered" and labelled an "awful race baiting bitch " (irony not included), before a predictable dog whistle deflection onto people who apparently hate the Union Jack when it appears the Met have accepted her version of events!
It would appear that "I'm not a racist, but..." in some posters' eyes is satisfied by not openly calling people n*ggers.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 11, 2020 9:14:34 GMT
So what do we know so far... Black, female Labour MP is in a car which is pulled over by the Met Police. (I suspect the first three words of this sentence are the real source of the self-righteous indignation). MP alleges racist profiling for the stop. Met accepts MP's 'very balanced account of the incident'. Officer involved apologised at the time of the stop. Meanwhile, the usual Oatcake "I'm not racist, but..." pitchfork mob weighs in with wanting her to be "slapped and sent on her way", "tasered" and labelled an "awful race baiting bitch " (irony not included), before a predictable dog whistle deflection onto people who apparently hate the Union Jack when it appears the Met have accepted her version of events! It would appear that "I'm not a racist, but..." in some posters' eyes is satisfied by not openly calling people n*ggers. It's staggering isn't it. They are so obvious you wonder whether it's some sort of clever parody. Sadly, the truth is, they don't have a shred of self awareness.
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Post by Gods on Aug 11, 2020 9:14:44 GMT
They are saying the driver was black. But black tends to mean not wholly white. Bit of a Grey Area Though his white neck and white arms do tend to suggest he's white, having said that Michael Jacmson had white hands... We may learn Jonathan Walters was at the wheel :-)
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 11, 2020 9:18:01 GMT
So what do we know so far... Black, female Labour MP is in a car which is pulled over by the Met Police. (I suspect the first three words of this sentence are the real source of the self-righteous indignation). MP alleges racist profiling for the stop. Met accepts MP's 'very balanced account of the incident'. Officer involved apologised at the time of the stop. Meanwhile, the usual Oatcake "I'm not racist, but..." pitchfork mob weighs in with wanting her to be "slapped and sent on her way", "tasered" and labelled an "awful race baiting bitch " (irony not included), before a predictable dog whistle deflection onto people who apparently hate the Union Jack when it appears the Met have accepted her version of events! It would appear that "I'm not a racist, but..." in some posters' eyes is satisfied by not openly calling people n*ggers. Just for clarity Any chance you could post a link where the met fully accept the MPs version of events and admits profiling by race
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Post by thevoid on Aug 11, 2020 9:22:40 GMT
So what do we know so far... Black, female Labour MP is in a car which is pulled over by the Met Police. (I suspect the first three words of this sentence are the real source of the self-righteous indignation). MP alleges racist profiling for the stop. Met accepts MP's 'very balanced account of the incident'. Officer involved apologised at the time of the stop. Meanwhile, the usual Oatcake "I'm not racist, but..." pitchfork mob weighs in with wanting her to be "slapped and sent on her way", "tasered" and labelled an "awful race baiting bitch " (irony not included), before a predictable dog whistle deflection onto people who apparently hate the Union Jack when it appears the Met have accepted her version of events! It would appear that "I'm not a racist, but..." in some posters' eyes is satisfied by not openly calling people n*ggers. Remind me again, who was the first person to mention Union Jacks on this thread?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2020 9:28:41 GMT
So what do we know so far... Black, female Labour MP is in a car which is pulled over by the Met Police. (I suspect the first three words of this sentence are the real source of the self-righteous indignation). MP alleges racist profiling for the stop. Met accepts MP's 'very balanced account of the incident'. Officer involved apologised at the time of the stop. Meanwhile, the usual Oatcake "I'm not racist, but..." pitchfork mob weighs in with wanting her to be "slapped and sent on her way", "tasered" and labelled an "awful race baiting bitch " (irony not included), before a predictable dog whistle deflection onto people who apparently hate the Union Jack when it appears the Met have accepted her version of events! It would appear that "I'm not a racist, but..." in some posters' eyes is satisfied by not openly calling people n*ggers. Strange as Ken Marsh seems to think the opposite and wants the full video released to the public and in his words is 'fed up' of these kinds of accusations. He has asked why she can put an edited film out for all to see but they can't release the real footage.He's obviously seen the incident unlike yourself .
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 11, 2020 9:35:15 GMT
So what do we know so far... Black, female Labour MP is in a car which is pulled over by the Met Police. (I suspect the first three words of this sentence are the real source of the self-righteous indignation). MP alleges racist profiling for the stop. Met accepts MP's 'very balanced account of the incident'. Officer involved apologised at the time of the stop. Meanwhile, the usual Oatcake "I'm not racist, but..." pitchfork mob weighs in with wanting her to be "slapped and sent on her way", "tasered" and labelled an "awful race baiting bitch " (irony not included), before a predictable dog whistle deflection onto people who apparently hate the Union Jack when it appears the Met have accepted her version of events! It would appear that "I'm not a racist, but..." in some posters' eyes is satisfied by not openly calling people n*ggers. Remind me again, who was the first person to mention Union Jacks on this thread? The name escapes me but he used it as a way to distinguish a racist🤷🏻♂️
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Post by thevoid on Aug 11, 2020 9:45:14 GMT
So what do we know so far... Black, female Labour MP is in a car which is pulled over by the Met Police. (I suspect the first three words of this sentence are the real source of the self-righteous indignation). MP alleges racist profiling for the stop. Met accepts MP's 'very balanced account of the incident'. Officer involved apologised at the time of the stop. Meanwhile, the usual Oatcake "I'm not racist, but..." pitchfork mob weighs in with wanting her to be "slapped and sent on her way", "tasered" and labelled an "awful race baiting bitch " (irony not included), before a predictable dog whistle deflection onto people who apparently hate the Union Jack when it appears the Met have accepted her version of events! It would appear that "I'm not a racist, but..." in some posters' eyes is satisfied by not openly calling people n*ggers. Strange as Ken Marsh seems to think the opposite and wants the full video released to the public and in his words is 'fed up' of these kinds of accusations. He has asked why she can put an edited film out for all to see but they can't release the real footage.He's obviously seen the incident unlike yourself . That's One Eyed Bluers for you mate. He soaks up every quote/transgression made by people he disagrees with like a sponge (sometimes going back years). These will always be people who lean to the right. Yet he's never provided a similar analysis to people with left wing views when similar traits are displayed- behaviour that he'd be quick to reference if he didn't agree with you. More transparent than the Invisible Man 😉
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 11, 2020 9:47:59 GMT
So what do we know so far... Black, female Labour MP is in a car which is pulled over by the Met Police. (I suspect the first three words of this sentence are the real source of the self-righteous indignation). MP alleges racist profiling for the stop. Met accepts MP's 'very balanced account of the incident'. Officer involved apologised at the time of the stop. Meanwhile, the usual Oatcake "I'm not racist, but..." pitchfork mob weighs in with wanting her to be "slapped and sent on her way", "tasered" and labelled an "awful race baiting bitch " (irony not included), before a predictable dog whistle deflection onto people who apparently hate the Union Jack when it appears the Met have accepted her version of events! It would appear that "I'm not a racist, but..." in some posters' eyes is satisfied by not openly calling people n*ggers. Strange as Ken Marsh seems to think the opposite and wants the full video released to the public and in his words is 'fed up' of these kinds of accusations. He has asked why she can put an edited film out for all to see but they can't release the real footage.He's obviously seen the incident unlike yourself . Well there lies the answer show the full unedited footage and allow the public to decide Are the police trying to hide something Is buttler trying to hide something Or is there nothing to hide Show the footage
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