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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 10, 2020 11:14:10 GMT
i think it will cost some team a lot of money now if they want either Soutter or collins can see them been our number 1 pairing soon. im no way an itk. But I do know someone associated with West Ham and they are watching Collins I would imagine most PL clubs and clubs further afield are. I really don’t think people realise the calibre of player we have in him. Hence why I get so fucked with this unwillingness to play him from successive managers.
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Post by nott1 on Oct 10, 2020 11:15:19 GMT
i will admit i did not think Harry Souttar would be good enough to make it but so far the lad has proved me wrong so good on him. just keep proving me and others wrong who thought you would not be good enough Everybody take note, a poster on the oatcake who admits his mistakes, a rare gem for sure!
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Post by Sven on Oct 10, 2020 11:55:18 GMT
i will admit i did not think Harry Souttar would be good enough to make it but so far the lad has proved me wrong so good on him. just keep proving me and others wrong who thought you would not be good enough same here but humble pie goes down a treat, slightly warmed with bit of double cream keep up the good work Harry
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Oct 10, 2020 12:02:06 GMT
i will admit i did not think Harry Souttar would be good enough to make it but so far the lad has proved me wrong so good on him. just keep proving me and others wrong who thought you would not be good enough same here but humble pie goes down a treat, slightly warmed with bit of double cream keep up the good work Harry Me too, I thought he was too tall, too weak and slow on the turn, but he looks stronger new, and superb in possession, and reading the game well. He'll be one of the best centre backs in this league this season, no doubt. If he keeps working hard premier league clubs will want to buy. Defenders that are solid but good on the ball are hard to find, especially so young
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 10, 2020 14:16:33 GMT
The only thing I have an issue with re Souttar is how after 2 loans of proving himself to be one of the best defenders in the league below could anyone think another loan is what he needed?
That imo showed it was a sink or swim moment and thankfully he’s swimming.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 10, 2020 14:33:27 GMT
The only thing I have an issue with re Souttar is how after 2 loans of proving himself to be one of the best defenders in the league below could anyone think another loan is what he needed? That imo showed it was a sink or swim moment and thankfully he’s swimming. That's what you get from the fans of a club based in a City where a majority of the voters proved themselves to be pricks and cunts at the last election, bayern!
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Post by mickstupp on Oct 10, 2020 14:53:34 GMT
same here but humble pie goes down a treat, slightly warmed with bit of double cream keep up the good work Harry Me too, I thought he was too tall, too weak and slow on the turn, but he looks stronger new, and superb in possession, and reading the game well. He'll be one of the best centre backs in this league this season, no doubt. If he keeps working hard premier league clubs will want to buy. Defenders that are solid but good on the ball are hard to find, especially so young Early days yet. Let’s see how he performs over the next few months before we get too carried away.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 10, 2020 14:53:58 GMT
The only thing I have an issue with re Souttar is how after 2 loans of proving himself to be one of the best defenders in the league below could anyone think another loan is what he needed? That imo showed it was a sink or swim moment and thankfully he’s swimming. That's what you get from the fans of a club based in a City where a majority of the voters proved themselves to be pricks and cunts at the last election, bayern! Indeed
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Post by mtrstudent on Oct 10, 2020 14:54:49 GMT
same here but humble pie goes down a treat, slightly warmed with bit of double cream keep up the good work Harry Me too, I thought he was too tall, too weak and slow on the turn, but he looks stronger new, and superb in possession, and reading the game well. He'll be one of the best centre backs in this league this season, no doubt. If he keeps working hard premier league clubs will want to buy. Defenders that are solid but good on the ball are hard to find, especially so young I'd only seen a little of him and was worried about those things too. And it's been so long since we had a wave of real top class young talent that I guess I didn't really believe it. I've been blown away by his performances so far, and while I'm sure I never wrote him off or talked shit about him, I just didn't believe the hype. I'd love a slice of that humble pie
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Post by baystokie on Oct 10, 2020 14:59:58 GMT
The only thing I have an issue with re Souttar is how after 2 loans of proving himself to be one of the best defenders in the league below could anyone think another loan is what he needed? That imo showed it was a sink or swim moment and thankfully he’s swimming. That's what you get from the fans of a club based in a City where a majority of the voters proved themselves to be pricks and cunts at the last election, bayern! Takes one to know one?
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 10, 2020 22:58:04 GMT
im no way an itk. But I do know someone associated with West Ham and they are watching Collins I would imagine most PL clubs and clubs further afield are. I really don’t think people realise the calibre of player we have in him. Hence why I get so fucked with this unwillingness to play him from successive managers. More apperances with us equals more exposure, equals more interest form bigger clubs, equals more bitching from you So yeah you're right.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 10, 2020 23:01:45 GMT
I would imagine most PL clubs and clubs further afield are. I really don’t think people realise the calibre of player we have in him. Hence why I get so fucked with this unwillingness to play him from successive managers. More apperances with us equals more exposure, equals more interest form bigger clubs, equals more bitching from you So yeah you're right. What?
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 10, 2020 23:07:24 GMT
More apperances with us equals more exposure, equals more interest form bigger clubs, equals more bitching from you So yeah you're right. What? Obvious really. You've been proclaiming that he should be playing since forever apparently. He plays more, he will get more interest. He gets interest, he gets his head turned and we sell him. You moan because we sell him. That's how it works doesn't it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 10, 2020 23:10:08 GMT
Obvious really. You've been proclaiming that he should be playing since forever apparently. He plays more, he will get more interest. He gets interest, he gets his head turned and we sell him. You moan because we sell him. That's how it works doesn't it? Depends how much we sold him for. Selling these players should have always been the plan but we’ve got to sell them for the correct premium. As you say playing him means more chance of selling him which means more chance of a bigger fee. I’d rather that than what happen if we sold him or Campbell now. For both of them, selling now would make little sense when we could get a bigger fee in 12 months or promotion by playing them.
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 10, 2020 23:13:10 GMT
Obvious really. You've been proclaiming that he should be playing since forever apparently. He plays more, he will get more interest. He gets interest, he gets his head turned and we sell him. You moan because we sell him. That's how it works doesn't it? Depends how much we sold him for. Selling these players should have always been the plan but we’ve got to sell them for the correct premium. As you say playing him means more chance of selling him which means more chance of a bigger fee. I’d rather that than what happen if we sold him or Campbell now. For both of them, selling now would make little sense when we could get a bigger fee in 12 months or promotion by playing them. Whatever we sold him for you'd moan.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 10, 2020 23:14:28 GMT
Depends how much we sold him for. Selling these players should have always been the plan but we’ve got to sell them for the correct premium. As you say playing him means more chance of selling him which means more chance of a bigger fee. I’d rather that than what happen if we sold him or Campbell now. For both of them, selling now would make little sense when we could get a bigger fee in 12 months or promotion by playing them. Whatever we sold him for you'd moan. If we sold him for under 15m at the moment I would moan.
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 10, 2020 23:19:27 GMT
Whatever we sold him for you'd moan. If we sold him for under 15m at the moment I would moan. A player with 2 championship appearances isn't going to be sold for anywhere near that 'at the moment'. So that proves my point.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 10, 2020 23:23:43 GMT
If we sold him for under 15m at the moment I would moan. A player with 2 championship appearances isn't going to be sold for anywhere near that 'at the moment'. So that proves my point. You quoted a post about Collins.....
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Post by bgreen13 on Oct 10, 2020 23:29:09 GMT
A player with 2 championship appearances isn't going to be sold for anywhere near that 'at the moment'. So that proves my point. You quoted a post about Collins..... Oh right should've known on a Souttar thread we'd be on about Collins. The point still stands only he has a dozen appearances.
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 10, 2020 23:30:57 GMT
You quoted a post about Collins..... Oh right should've known on a Souttar thread we'd be on about Collins. The point still stands only he has a dozen appearances. You’re literally making bayern’s point, are you doing this on purpose?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 10, 2020 23:33:31 GMT
You quoted a post about Collins..... Oh right should've known on a Souttar thread we'd be on about Collins. The point still stands only he has a dozen appearances. Which is why we should play him more 😂🤦♂️
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Post by nott1 on Oct 11, 2020 6:08:07 GMT
We should play him more.......AND keep him!
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 11, 2020 17:33:52 GMT
same here but humble pie goes down a treat, slightly warmed with bit of double cream keep up the good work Harry Me too, I thought he was too tall, too weak and slow on the turn, but he looks stronger new, and superb in possession, and reading the game well. He'll be one of the best centre backs in this league this season, no doubt. If he keeps working hard premier league clubs will want to buy. Defenders that are solid but good on the ball are hard to find, especially so young As i posted on this thread on Sept 8th: "If you were a Championship forward, or a Manager, would you fancy coming up against Souttar?" He is certainly a formidable presence. Who was the promising centre half we loaned to Bristol Rovers a few seasons back, and where has he ended up?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 17:38:54 GMT
ryan Sweeney/
he was at Mansfield.not sure if still is
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Post by brumstokie on Oct 11, 2020 17:46:31 GMT
ryan Sweeney/ he was at Mansfield.not sure if still is He is. Played yesterday.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2020 17:48:35 GMT
ryan Sweeney/ he was at Mansfield.not sure if still is He is. Played yesterday. Played for ROI at several levels and looked quite good. Forgot about him to be honest
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Post by somersetstokie on Oct 11, 2020 17:50:48 GMT
Ah! Thanks. So perhaps not really one we missed then.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Oct 11, 2020 17:51:58 GMT
He was always a lot more industrial than Souttar.
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Post by mrcoke on Oct 17, 2020 18:15:35 GMT
Another excellent performance today in a different position the will stretch; well done Harry.
Also pleasing to see Tymon put in a good game after struggling last time. He has become a real asset to the club after a sticky couple of years.
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