"The way we viewed it...yes we have paid far too much but you look at it as a business deal. So, as a business person if you were going to assess it, you would say why on earth have you done that! But that isn't how we viewed it. We really viewed it as almost a loved one was held hostage and someone had to pay the ransom. The club would have gone into administration, it would have folded." From her Wikipedia page.
Well she contradicts herself within that statement.
I do have a slight disconnect with Vale.
At school (Moorside) most of the kids were Stoke and the only Vale fans I had much to do with were my dads brothers. Left Stoke for uni nearly 30 years ago and have lived away ever since so not really had the day to day rivalry with work folk etc and have always avoided reading about the Vale. It’s a bit irrational but I reckon I’ve got more insight about every other club in the football league than Vale.
Post by somersetstokie on Aug 2, 2020 14:59:06 GMT
"It’s a bit irrational but I reckon I’ve got more insight about every other club in the football league than Vale."
Vale tend to have that effect on people. Mind Numbing mediocrity induces instantaneous lapses of attention and sustained memory loss amongst all those who set out to take any interest in their exploits.
Worst thing that could have happened her taking over. I was convinced another season with the Smurf would have seen them disappear into oblivion and never to be seen again. Now that would have been all my Christmas’s coming at once 👍
I thought it was someone of Loose Women when I read the title
Don't know anything about the owners to be honest , not sure why anyone would want a club to go bust. Maybe I just don't have any interest in them any more than say Carlisle or Torquay.
I'm not a Failite by any stretch of the imagination but the Shenannigans must be alike a breath of fresh air for the unwashed given the crap that's owned them over the years. For the life of me I can't find myself disliking them or Askey. I'd even go as far as seeing them as our second club that we can use to bring our lesser players on.
On Friday they had a big advice and jobs day in tandem with a local MP Jonathan somebody. My mates lad is furloughed and possibly about to lose his job, so he went along.
Apparently the set up was brilliant with people from DWP, Citizens advice, Apprentice schemes etc etc .
Whatever your feelings on them there is no doubt that along with the meals provided that they are reaching out to the community.
Do I like Port Vale, no I don't, I remember the 90's thanks very much. But credit where credit is due and it looks that they are not the joke they were under Arthur Daley
I thought it was someone of Loose Women when I read the title
Don't know anything about the owners to be honest , not sure why anyone would want a club to go bust. Maybe I just don't have any interest in them any more than say Carlisle or Torquay.
I would be happy as a pig in shit if they went bust. Personal reasons. Mainly, having been amongst the unwashed on occasions. Trust me the hate for Stoke is on another level. They would love Stoke to drop down the divisions and disappear from the planet. Hate my club I hate you simples. Very childish I know. But that’s just the way it is.
On Friday they had a big advice and jobs day in tandem with a local MP Jonathan somebody. My mates lad is furloughed and possibly about to lose his job, so he went along.
Apparently the set up was brilliant with people from DWP, Citizens advice, Apprentice schemes etc etc .
Whatever your feelings on them there is no doubt that along with the meals provided that they are reaching out to the community.
Do I like Port Vale, no I don't, I remember the 90's thanks very much. But credit where credit is due and it looks that they are not the joke they were under Arthur Daley
All of this goes on at Stoke. It's just that they don't brag about it.
I thought it was someone of Loose Women when I read the title
Don't know anything about the owners to be honest , not sure why anyone would want a club to go bust. Maybe I just don't have any interest in them any more than say Carlisle or Torquay.
I would be happy as a pig in shit if they went bust. Personal reasons. Mainly, having been amongst the unwashed on occasions. Trust me the hate for Stoke is on another level. They would love Stoke to drop down the divisions and disappear from the planet. Hate my club I hate you simples. Very childish I know. But that’s just the way it is.
They probably would but really just don't care about them or if they like us or not. Just insignificant to me. I don't even know who their manager is.
Post by supersimonstainrod on Aug 3, 2020 0:37:45 GMT
Bloody outsiders,rocking up in Stoke-On-Trent,establishing successful businesses and creating jobs for Stoke people,then reinvesting in Stoke projects and 'giving back' to the area that's helped make them because they've taken to the place and formed emotional loyalties,with their bloody employees spending their lunch hours and more in local pubs and cafes etc,ensuring more of the monies generated stay within the S-O-T economy as opposed to being leached away to London or even further afield to absent shareholders and business owners.
They need to f*ck right off,outsource as much as possible overseas and take the likes of Emma Bridgewater with them too...
Of course,the Shanahans could be just another pair of egomaniacs,and owning the Vale could be another vanity project ineluctably fated for disaster,however they seem to be giving it a good go and you only have to walk through the mother town to see it desperately needs their stewardship of the Vale to go well amongst other things.
On Friday they had a big advice and jobs day in tandem with a local MP Jonathan somebody. My mates lad is furloughed and possibly about to lose his job, so he went along.
Apparently the set up was brilliant with people from DWP, Citizens advice, Apprentice schemes etc etc .
Whatever your feelings on them there is no doubt that along with the meals provided that they are reaching out to the community.
Do I like Port Vale, no I don't, I remember the 90's thanks very much. But credit where credit is due and it looks that they are not the joke they were under Arthur Daley
All of this goes on at Stoke. It's just that they don't brag about it.
So why was I constantly seeing stories about Stoke players delivering food parcels etc etc to various homes,hospitals and care homes throughout the lockdown?
Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Aug 3, 2020 8:09:33 GMT
I know Carol and Kevin fairly well. I find it quite funny that they used to have season tickets at Stoke 4 years ago. They're lovely people though and have worked incredibly hard to get to where they have. Credit where it's due.
I know Carol and Kevin fairly well. I find it quite funny that they used to have season tickets at Stoke 4 years ago. They're lovely people though and have worked incredibly hard to get to where they have. Credit where it's due.
"The way we viewed it...yes we have paid far too much but you look at it as a business deal. So, as a business person if you were going to assess it, you would say why on earth have you done that! But that isn't how we viewed it. We really viewed it as almost a loved one was held hostage and someone had to pay the ransom. The club would have gone into administration, it would have folded." From her Wikipedia page.
Well she contradicts herself within that statement.
I do have a slight disconnect with Vale.
At school (Moorside) most of the kids were Stoke and the only Vale fans I had much to do with were my dads brothers. Left Stoke for uni nearly 30 years ago and have lived away ever since so not really had the day to day rivalry with work folk etc and have always avoided reading about the Vale. It’s a bit irrational but I reckon I’ve got more insight about every other club in the football league than Vale.
Don’t forget all the knobsticks that suddenly started wearing Vale scarves and tops because ‘My uncle used to take me down. I’ve always been Vale.’ This was when they were suddenly better than us. As far as I’m concerned they can fuck off, keep fucking off and when they’ve done that they can fuck off a bit more.
I know Carol and Kevin fairly well. I find it quite funny that they used to have season tickets at Stoke 4 years ago. They're lovely people though and have worked incredibly hard to get to where they have. Credit where it's due.
I worked for her for a good many years. Don't think she ever had a Stoke season ticket tbf but both Kevin (estranged husband) and her son did. She appears to be really nice (and can maintain it for a long time) but there's an evil side to her and she's unable to react positively to any criticism or difference of opinion. I'm pretty sure they'll push for promotion next year but as soon as some fans start to moan (and they will when they're stuck mid-table) we'll see the other side of her personality.
I'm not a Failite by any stretch of the imagination but the Shenannigans must be alike a breath of fresh air for the unwashed given the crap that's owned them over the years. For the life of me I can't find myself disliking them or Askey. I'd even go as far as seeing them as our second club that we can use to bring our lesser players on.
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I agree. My mates dad used to be a director there back in the 80s so I used to go quite a bit. I never really liked them but never hated them. Obviously I like joining in on the piss taking but I certainly wouldn't want them to disappear. I mean it would take away all that banter for a start.
"The way we viewed it...yes we have paid far too much but you look at it as a business deal. So, as a business person if you were going to assess it, you would say why on earth have you done that! But that isn't how we viewed it. We really viewed it as almost a loved one was held hostage and someone had to pay the ransom. The club would have gone into administration, it would have folded." From her Wikipedia page.
Well she contradicts herself within that statement.
I do have a slight disconnect with Vale.
At school (Moorside) most of the kids were Stoke and the only Vale fans I had much to do with were my dads brothers. Left Stoke for uni nearly 30 years ago and have lived away ever since so not really had the day to day rivalry with work folk etc and have always avoided reading about the Vale. It’s a bit irrational but I reckon I’ve got more insight about every other club in the football league than Vale.
Don’t forget all the knobsticks that suddenly started wearing Vale scarves and tops because ‘My uncle used to take me down. I’ve always been Vale.’ This was when they were suddenly better than us. As far as I’m concerned they can fuck off, keep fucking off and when they’ve done that they can fuck off a bit more.
Can you be a bit more specific? Don't go for fence-sitting!!!
I know Carol and Kevin fairly well. I find it quite funny that they used to have season tickets at Stoke 4 years ago. They're lovely people though and have worked incredibly hard to get to where they have. Credit where it's due.
Rumor amongst some vale fans is that she's had a loan off Denise, heard it off a few now.
Don’t forget all the knobsticks that suddenly started wearing Vale scarves and tops because ‘My uncle used to take me down. I’ve always been Vale.’ This was when they were suddenly better than us. As far as I’m concerned they can fuck off, keep fucking off and when they’ve done that they can fuck off a bit more.
Can you be a bit more specific? Don't go for fence-sitting!!!
I’m quite proud of that one mate! Hadn’t had a drink either - it was genuine spite!! 😆