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Post by JoeinOz on Aug 1, 2020 5:21:45 GMT
The most lowkey one ever. Whi is to be expected.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 6:43:53 GMT
The most lowkey one ever. Whi is to be expected. I can predict the crowd. Results wise I’m going 3-1 Chelsea.....
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 1, 2020 7:08:37 GMT
The most lowkey one ever. Whi is to be expected. I can predict the crowd. Results wise I’m going 3-1 Chelsea..... Doesn't look like Joe can predict his text though.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 1, 2020 7:44:43 GMT
Just as long as Arsenal lose, nothing else matters.
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Post by scfc75 on Aug 1, 2020 7:44:59 GMT
I used to be able to remember the teams, score and scorers from every cup final from around 1985 onwards. I’ll be honest I couldn’t name a single winner with any confidence from about the year 2000 onwards (ok, 2011 excepted). Covid or not, the FA Cup final just isn’t an event any more.
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Post by wilcopotter on Aug 1, 2020 8:09:34 GMT
I’d just love to see us win it!
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Post by ohbottom on Aug 1, 2020 8:27:42 GMT
The most lowkey one ever. Whi is to be expected. When is it?
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Post by liam007 on Aug 1, 2020 8:33:02 GMT
Have to say all London cup finals don't really seem to interest me.Can't explain it but unlikely i will even watch it today.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 1, 2020 8:44:04 GMT
In a way, it's a good thing that it's two teams that nobody cares about nationally and who've been there plenty of times before. Can you imagine how sore you would be if you were an Accrington Stanley supporter who couldn't go to the first and probably only Cup Final in your club's history? It's hard to think of the 2011 Final without supporters.
I'm also glad that they've managed to go ahead with it. For me, it's more important than them completing the league season.
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Post by puddledpotter on Aug 1, 2020 9:13:36 GMT
If you look at the stars it's not really surprising that a lot of people will be disinterested in this afternoon's final. Since the Premier League was formed there have been 28 FA Cup finals, 5 teams Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool have lifted the cup 25 times out of the 28,. The trend of top 5 teams winning will be 26 out of 29 by the final whistle today. The appeal of the cup used to be the unpredictability of it, freak results still occur but only in the earlier rounds usually when Premier League managers mess up in their team selection. Dont get me wrong nobody would relish Stoke City having their name engraved on the trophy more than me, it would be a highlight in supporters lives and that is the difference, the customers of this afternoon's finalists will not have the emotional experience we would have it will be an expectation rather than a landmark day which I think is a major reason for declining interest, the richest teams hoovering up all the goodies does not really appeal outside their own customer base. I do wonder what effect a slight tweak would have on its popularity such as if you qualify for Europe you don't play in the FA cup for example.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 1, 2020 9:45:30 GMT
Have to say all London cup finals don't really seem to interest me.Can't explain it but unlikely i will even watch it today. I agree in modern football but Chelsea v Tottenham 1967 was a cracker! Proper Handshakes!!!
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 1, 2020 9:51:48 GMT
If you look at the stars it's not really surprising that a lot of people will be disinterested in this afternoon's final. Since the Premier League was formed there have been 28 FA Cup finals, 5 teams Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool have lifted the cup 25 times out of the 28,. The trend of top 5 teams winning will be 26 out of 29 by the final whistle today. The appeal of the cup used to be the unpredictability of it, freak results still occur but only in the earlier rounds usually when Premier League managers mess up in their team selection. Dont get me wrong nobody would relish Stoke City having their name engraved on the trophy more than me, it would be a highlight in supporters lives and that is the difference, the customers of this afternoon's finalists will not have the emotional experience we would have it will be an expectation rather than a landmark day which I think is a major reason for declining interest, the richest teams hoovering up all the goodies does not really appeal outside their own customer base. I do wonder what effect a slight tweak would have on its popularity such as if you qualify for Europe you don't play in the FA cup for example. The Premier League has destroyed the greatest football competition in the world. Its really sad...... there are only so many 60s/70s/80s FA Cup Finals you can watch on Youtube!!! Before 1990 there was no way in a million years I would be missing an FA Cup Final game, now I would probably prefer watching Pointless!!! Hard pushed to find 2 more unlikeable teams than Arsenal and Chelsea
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Post by liam007 on Aug 1, 2020 10:04:43 GMT
Have to say all London cup finals don't really seem to interest me.Can't explain it but unlikely i will even watch it today. I agree in modern football but Chelsea v Tottenham 1967 was a cracker! Proper Handshakes!!! That video is brillant mate.Brillant commentary,great kits,lovely hot day.The half time faces had me in stitches.The first FA Cup final i remember watching was the 1979 Arsenal 3 Man Utd 2.Loved the FA Cup final day as a kid growing up.And so glad i got to us play in a FA Cup final.Don't know if it's old age creeping up on me or the current times we live in but this game today really is not doing anything for me at all.Shame really as Cup Final day was always the highlight of the season.
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Post by raythesailor on Aug 1, 2020 10:09:13 GMT
Strange times. On the day of our Cup Final the new Scottish Premier Lge kicks off.
Not really interested in either. 🤪⚓️
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Post by silsdenstokie on Aug 1, 2020 10:12:07 GMT
Normally would want Arsenal to lose but Chelsea are fairly unlikable and can't see me rooting for them
It's a bad'un this year
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Post by liam007 on Aug 1, 2020 10:13:51 GMT
Strange times. On the day of our Cup Final the new Scottish Premier Lge kicks off. Not really interested in either. 🤪⚓️ Even stranger is that Rangers start their 2020/21 league season today then on Thursday they are playing in the 2019/20 Europa League.
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Post by AlliG on Aug 1, 2020 10:33:23 GMT
Have to say all London cup finals don't really seem to interest me.Can't explain it but unlikely i will even watch it today. I agree in modern football but Chelsea v Tottenham 1967 was a cracker! Proper Handshakes!!! I was 8 at the time and watched it at my mate Mark's house in Peel Street Dresden. He was cheering on Spurs and I had Chelsea. At full time we went out into the street and replayed the game before his mum made us some tea before I went home. It was a different world in that at 8 I was allowed to walk there and back (from Hales Place off the middle bit of Chaplin Road) without anyone being remotely worried and that we could play football down the middle of the street with no complaints from the neighbours or having to dodge cars. The other thing I can remember is on the Friday before loads of kids at St Gregory's lining up on either side of the playground (Spurs one side, Chelsea the other) and both sides charging into each other in a cross between a giant game of British Bulldog and a general free for all.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 1, 2020 10:53:03 GMT
I agree in modern football but Chelsea v Tottenham 1967 was a cracker! Proper Handshakes!!! I was 8 at the time and watched it at my mate Mark's house in Peel Street Dresden. He was cheering on Spurs and I had Chelsea. At full time we went out into the street and replayed the game before his mum made us some tea before I went home. It was a different world in that at 8 I was allowed to walk there and back (from Hales Place off the middle bit of Chaplin Road) without anyone being remotely worried and that we could play football down the middle of the street with no complaints from the neighbours or having to dodge cars. The other thing I can remember is on the Friday before loads of kids at St Gregory's lining up on either side of the playground (Spurs one side, Chelsea the other) and both sides charging into each other in a cross between a giant game of British Bulldog and a general free for all. thats a proper FA Cup Final anecdote...Brilliant! and kind of sums what it used to mean to people, especially kids, it was really was a very special day in the calendar.
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Post by realstokebloke on Aug 1, 2020 11:00:32 GMT
If you look at the stars it's not really surprising that a lot of people will be disinterested in this afternoon's final. Since the Premier League was formed there have been 28 FA Cup finals, 5 teams Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool have lifted the cup 25 times out of the 28,. The trend of top 5 teams winning will be 26 out of 29 by the final whistle today. The appeal of the cup used to be the unpredictability of it, freak results still occur but only in the earlier rounds usually when Premier League managers mess up in their team selection. Dont get me wrong nobody would relish Stoke City having their name engraved on the trophy more than me, it would be a highlight in supporters lives and that is the difference, the customers of this afternoon's finalists will not have the emotional experience we would have it will be an expectation rather than a landmark day which I think is a major reason for declining interest, the richest teams hoovering up all the goodies does not really appeal outside their own customer base. I do wonder what effect a slight tweak would have on its popularity such as if you qualify for Europe you don't play in the FA cup for example. You make a great point puddle.
The modern game & the PL have absolutely mullered the FA Cup. And those stats tell their own sorry tale. No more is it a genuine national event and very rarely are there any upsets once the big boys enter the fray.
As to a solution is (if there is one) idk. Some mechanism to exclude the top seeds might work - but would it ever be agreed to, not least by the FA itself, which still sees it as the ultimate prize for the best team obviously.
That said, it's also like a lot of positive discrimination: shouldn't it be just the 'best man wins', period, not the 'best man with one leg wins'?
Either way, and like many millions that used to watch it, I couldn't give a monkeys about today's game.
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Post by stokefc on Aug 1, 2020 11:11:51 GMT
well it's just got interesting for me iv'e just had 2-0 3-0 4-0 Chelsea
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Post by Alvechurch Assassin on Aug 1, 2020 11:32:19 GMT
In all our history, we had 2 real chances for glory and bragging rights - the league in the late 40’s and the FA Cup in 2011. We fucked it in both.
Still, we have one league cup and two autoglass trophies.
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Post by thfc67 on Aug 1, 2020 12:11:16 GMT
Have to say all London cup finals don't really seem to interest me.Can't explain it but unlikely i will even watch it today. I agree in modern football but Chelsea v Tottenham 1967 was a cracker! Proper Handshakes!!! My first Spurs game.
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Post by ChesterStokie on Aug 1, 2020 12:21:15 GMT
If you look at the stars it's not really surprising that a lot of people will be disinterested in this afternoon's final. Since the Premier League was formed there have been 28 FA Cup finals, 5 teams Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool have lifted the cup 25 times out of the 28,. The trend of top 5 teams winning will be 26 out of 29 by the final whistle today. The appeal of the cup used to be the unpredictability of it, freak results still occur but only in the earlier rounds usually when Premier League managers mess up in their team selection. Dont get me wrong nobody would relish Stoke City having their name engraved on the trophy more than me, it would be a highlight in supporters lives and that is the difference, the customers of this afternoon's finalists will not have the emotional experience we would have it will be an expectation rather than a landmark day which I think is a major reason for declining interest, the richest teams hoovering up all the goodies does not really appeal outside their own customer base. I do wonder what effect a slight tweak would have on its popularity such as if you qualify for Europe you don't play in the FA cup for example. You've nailed it there. The FA Cup Final used to be a great day for the people. Now it's a minor sideshow for the gloryhunters of 2 out of the same 5 teams.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 1, 2020 12:22:54 GMT
In all our history, we had 2 real chances for glory and bragging rights - the league in the late 40’s and the FA Cup in 2011. We fucked it in both. Still, we have one league cup and two autoglass trophies. 1971 surely 2-0 half time at Hillsborough in the Semi Final!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2020 12:29:14 GMT
The FA cup doesn’t seem to have had the same excitement as it used to (not just coronavirus year). They should try and recreate the buzz it got in the old days.
Having at 3pm would be a good start.
I assume the modern day player is way above recording a song...
I can’t help thinking that a few subtle changes would help bring back the ‘magic’ of the FA Cup.
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Post by ab61 on Aug 1, 2020 12:37:53 GMT
Back in the day ! The 3rd round of the FA Cup would guarantee a bumper home crowd. Usually best gate of the season thus far. Now they struggle to sell tickets and people moan if it’s more than a tenner ! If we progressed back in the day they used to have the draw on the radio after the game. There would always be someone with a transistor radio on the PMT bus as we all hushed and listened intently as we made our way up Hartshill road. If we had lost I’d get proper upset and tearful and my old man, bless him would always say don’t worry son there’s always next season. I used to think to myself, I don’t care about next season ! I wanted to progress. Now 😢
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Post by ColonelMustard on Aug 1, 2020 13:17:45 GMT
If you look at the stars it's not really surprising that a lot of people will be disinterested in this afternoon's final. Since the Premier League was formed there have been 28 FA Cup finals, 5 teams Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City, Man Utd and Liverpool have lifted the cup 25 times out of the 28,. The trend of top 5 teams winning will be 26 out of 29 by the final whistle today. The appeal of the cup used to be the unpredictability of it, freak results still occur but only in the earlier rounds usually when Premier League managers mess up in their team selection. Dont get me wrong nobody would relish Stoke City having their name engraved on the trophy more than me, it would be a highlight in supporters lives and that is the difference, the customers of this afternoon's finalists will not have the emotional experience we would have it will be an expectation rather than a landmark day which I think is a major reason for declining interest, the richest teams hoovering up all the goodies does not really appeal outside their own customer base. I do wonder what effect a slight tweak would have on its popularity such as if you qualify for Europe you don't play in the FA cup for example. Good post but I think it's a global thing. Fans of the other clubs in the UK find this situation has ruined the cup and we are likely a majority. Even some of the UK based fans of these teams would agree. But worldwide the fans of these clubs are all there really is and would not agree. It's not our game any more and many of the decisions made around football reflect it.
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Post by Veritas on Aug 1, 2020 15:44:12 GMT
I used to be able to remember the teams, score and scorers from every cup final from around 1985 onwards. I’ll be honest I couldn’t name a single winner with any confidence from about the year 2000 onwards (ok, 2011 excepted). Covid or not, the FA Cup final just isn’t an event any more. Too true, I am obviously a bit older and can picture key events in every final from 1967 to 2001. After that other than us in 2011 and the Wigan winner in 2013 they all blur into each other and of late I haven't bothered to watch several finals at all. Between them the FA and Premier League have managed to completely trash what was the biggest football day of the year by devaluing and ruining what was the greatest football competition.
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Post by chinapotter on Aug 1, 2020 15:49:28 GMT
In all our history, we had 2 real chances for glory and bragging rights - the league in the late 40’s and the FA Cup in 2011. We fucked it in both. Still, we have one league cup and two autoglass trophies. And don’t forget we’re still the reigning Watney Cup champions. Makes you proud...
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Post by thisisouryear on Aug 1, 2020 16:04:40 GMT
I think Chelsea will win 3-1 and Pulisic to be unplayable today. What a fantastic player he is, he's likely to be better next year.
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