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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 13:38:26 GMT
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Post by Linx on Jul 31, 2020 13:41:49 GMT
Great. Er, what exactly is it? Is it recognition for employing Corporal Whittle all those years ago?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 13:42:42 GMT
Great. Er, what exactly is it? Is it recognition for employing Corporal Whittle all this years ago? Dunno. Just saw it on Twitter and posted it for anyone interested.....
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Post by bolders on Jul 31, 2020 13:44:12 GMT
proud of my club for that, being my ex serviceman
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Post by macarisredarmy on Jul 31, 2020 13:46:50 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 13:49:28 GMT
I'm all for supporting veterans, they go through incomprehensible things. I do feel a little uneasy about the club being linked too closely with the military though because it means people (often young, impressionable people) go through those incomprehensible things.
Beyond the Second World War it's hard to find many conflicts I really support our involvement in.
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Post by markby on Jul 31, 2020 13:50:27 GMT
McClean's Twitter account is boiling hotter than the sun as we speak...
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Post by stokefc on Jul 31, 2020 13:52:10 GMT
did Gary shoot himself in the foot with that gun Well done Stoke
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 31, 2020 14:15:03 GMT
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Post by zerps on Jul 31, 2020 14:17:28 GMT
Captain mainwaring on the left?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 31, 2020 14:23:39 GMT
Captain mainwaring on the left? And Corporal Jones on the right!
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Post by kidcrewbob on Jul 31, 2020 14:31:09 GMT
Captain mainwaring on the left? And Corporal Jones on the right! .....they don't like it up 'em......
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Post by stokiemac on Jul 31, 2020 14:42:47 GMT
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Post by ohbottom on Jul 31, 2020 15:13:49 GMT
The club is taking no chances. Apparently Brek Shea posted on twitface he was on his way back to "settle some scores"...
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Post by ohbottom on Jul 31, 2020 15:14:40 GMT
And Corporal Jones on the right! .....they don't like it up 'em...... At least, not with the finger of a goalies glove...
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Post by mattador78 on Jul 31, 2020 15:19:22 GMT
.....they don't like it up 'em...... At least, not with the finger of a goalies glove... Especially coated in deep heat 🔥 🍑
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Post by waddosnavy on Jul 31, 2020 16:03:17 GMT
A little late - however we did employ one Petty Officer (Telegraphist) Tony Waddington!
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Post by lordb on Jul 31, 2020 16:07:30 GMT
I'm all for supporting veterans, they go through incomprehensible things. I do feel a little uneasy about the club being linked too closely with the military though because it means people (often young, impressionable people) go through those incomprehensible things. Beyond the Second World War it's hard to find many conflicts I really support our involvement in. perfectly understandable however supporting our service men & women regardless of what the war is or was is always a good thing I think It's getting the balance right between the latter whilst not to be seen to be supporting war or wars
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 31, 2020 16:41:31 GMT
I'm all for supporting veterans, they go through incomprehensible things. I do feel a little uneasy about the club being linked too closely with the military though because it means people (often young, impressionable people) go through those incomprehensible things. Beyond the Second World War it's hard to find many conflicts I really support our involvement in. The armed forces never start any wars, it's the politicians who do that. It's the armed forces role to be there to deter others attacking us, and to fight the battles the politicians have led us into. Do you think we should have told the Falklands "tough" when Argentina invaded them? It's a difficult decision. But again it was the politicians who created the problem by withdrawing forces from the area, which was an invitation for the Argentinian junta who were an unpopular government to invade South Georgia. There was a weak response by the UK which then led them to invade the Falklands. Regarding the award, I'm often critical of the way the club is run, so it is nice to say, "well done everyone involved". (Please note big John, I spelt led correctly, )
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jul 31, 2020 16:43:04 GMT
We've won it one time.... We've won it one tiiiime.... the Employer Recognition Scheme Gold Award.... We've won it one time....
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 31, 2020 16:49:25 GMT
Captain mainwaring on the left? Well spotted, Wilson. I wondered who'd be the first to notice that.
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Post by pyrus on Jul 31, 2020 17:47:43 GMT
I have no idea what this accreditation is, but having worked for the military several times over recent years, I can say all the servicemen I have ever worked with are excellent. Really professional, decisive, thorough, patient. If they have decided that Stoke meets a standard that they have set, then I am suitably impressed.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 31, 2020 18:00:45 GMT
Should of put that jeep in goal 😎
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Post by scfc75 on Jul 31, 2020 18:11:43 GMT
“The Employer Recognition Scheme Gold Award, we’ve won it one time”
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Post by southstanddan on Jul 31, 2020 18:28:25 GMT
I'm all for supporting veterans, they go through incomprehensible things. I do feel a little uneasy about the club being linked too closely with the military though because it means people (often young, impressionable people) go through those incomprehensible things. Beyond the Second World War it's hard to find many conflicts I really support our involvement in. Sod that, bring back national service!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 18:51:39 GMT
I'm all for supporting veterans, they go through incomprehensible things. I do feel a little uneasy about the club being linked too closely with the military though because it means people (often young, impressionable people) go through those incomprehensible things. Beyond the Second World War it's hard to find many conflicts I really support our involvement in. perfectly understandable however supporting our service men & women regardless of what the war is or was is always a good thing I think It's getting the balance right between the latter whilst not to be seen to be supporting war or wars Yes, I totally agree. I love the whole tickets for veterans, helping out veterans. I am less of a fan of the photo ops in uniform with military vehicles outside of the stadium But it's a totally difficult thing to distinguish.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2020 19:00:10 GMT
I'm all for supporting veterans, they go through incomprehensible things. I do feel a little uneasy about the club being linked too closely with the military though because it means people (often young, impressionable people) go through those incomprehensible things. Beyond the Second World War it's hard to find many conflicts I really support our involvement in. The armed forces never start any wars, it's the politicians who do that. It's the armed forces role to be there to deter others attacking us, and to fight the battles the politicians have led us into. Do you think we should have told the Falklands "tough" when Argentina invaded them? It's a difficult decision. But again it was the politicians who created the problem by withdrawing forces from the area, which was an invitation for the Argentinian junta who were an unpopular government to invade South Georgia. There was a weak response by the UK which then led them to invade the Falklands. Regarding the award, I'm often critical of the way the club is run, so it is nice to say, "well done everyone involved". (Please note big John, I spelt led correctly, ) I was careful in my wording, I didn't say I don't support any and realistically the Falklands is one of those grey areas. I find it especially hard to take off my unbiased hat when considering it too because I'm aware our victory there got Thatcher her second term from what I gather. I want to be absolutely clear when I say I in no way blame soldiers, I'm incredibly sympathetic towards them and thing help for heroes etc are wonderful charities. Tickets for veterans, any sort of benefits and support for veterans I wholeheartedly encourage. My issues are twofold: -I hate it when war is glorified, I'm not mad about the club photo op with soldiers in uniform perched on a big metal killing machine, there needs to be a big message saying war is fucking awful. -The second is while soldiers are completely without blame, and the politicians deserve most of it, the military system needs to take a lot too. They recruit the young, the aimless, the desperate and this is in a job where you probably won't come back from your tour the same person and you might not come back at all. The notion of the army being a deterrent is all well and good but it's used aggressively, look at Iraq and Afghanistan and the horror we have endured and worse, created.
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Post by mrcoke on Jul 31, 2020 21:52:23 GMT
The armed forces never start any wars, it's the politicians who do that. It's the armed forces role to be there to deter others attacking us, and to fight the battles the politicians have led us into. Do you think we should have told the Falklands "tough" when Argentina invaded them? It's a difficult decision. But again it was the politicians who created the problem by withdrawing forces from the area, which was an invitation for the Argentinian junta who were an unpopular government to invade South Georgia. There was a weak response by the UK which then led them to invade the Falklands. Regarding the award, I'm often critical of the way the club is run, so it is nice to say, "well done everyone involved". (Please note big John, I spelt led correctly, ) I was careful in my wording, I didn't say I don't support any and realistically the Falklands is one of those grey areas. I find it especially hard to take off my unbiased hat when considering it too because I'm aware our victory there got Thatcher her second term from what I gather. I want to be absolutely clear when I say I in no way blame soldiers, I'm incredibly sympathetic towards them and thing help for heroes etc are wonderful charities. Tickets for veterans, any sort of benefits and support for veterans I wholeheartedly encourage. My issues are twofold: -I hate it when war is glorified, I'm not mad about the club photo op with soldiers in uniform perched on a big metal killing machine, there needs to be a big message saying war is fucking awful. -The second is while soldiers are completely without blame, and the politicians deserve most of it, the military system needs to take a lot too. They recruit the young, the aimless, the desperate and this is in a job where you probably won't come back from your tour the same person and you might not come back at all. The notion of the army being a deterrent is all well and good but it's used aggressively, look at Iraq and Afghanistan and the horror we have endured and worse, created. I don't disagree with what you say, but make the point it is the politicians who do the using. You paint a very black picture of the army and what is does to the young. I have two relatives who served in the army, both got trades which they have continued when they left and are now doing very well. The army set them up for life and they never served abroad, or fired a gun in anger.
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Post by lordb on Jul 31, 2020 22:15:13 GMT
The armed forces never start any wars, it's the politicians who do that. It's the armed forces role to be there to deter others attacking us, and to fight the battles the politicians have led us into. Do you think we should have told the Falklands "tough" when Argentina invaded them? It's a difficult decision. But again it was the politicians who created the problem by withdrawing forces from the area, which was an invitation for the Argentinian junta who were an unpopular government to invade South Georgia. There was a weak response by the UK which then led them to invade the Falklands. Regarding the award, I'm often critical of the way the club is run, so it is nice to say, "well done everyone involved". (Please note big John, I spelt led correctly, ) I was careful in my wording, I didn't say I don't support any and realistically the Falklands is one of those grey areas. I find it especially hard to take off my unbiased hat when considering it too because I'm aware our victory there got Thatcher her second term from what I gather. I want to be absolutely clear when I say I in no way blame soldiers, I'm incredibly sympathetic towards them and thing help for heroes etc are wonderful charities. Tickets for veterans, any sort of benefits and support for veterans I wholeheartedly encourage. My issues are twofold: -I hate it when war is glorified, I'm not mad about the club photo op with soldiers in uniform perched on a big metal killing machine, there needs to be a big message saying war is fucking awful. -The second is while soldiers are completely without blame, and the politicians deserve most of it, the military system needs to take a lot too. They recruit the young, the aimless, the desperate and this is in a job where you probably won't come back from your tour the same person and you might not come back at all. The notion of the army being a deterrent is all well and good but it's used aggressively, look at Iraq and Afghanistan and the horror we have endured and worse, created. The Army is used, repeatedly, for 'bad wars'. That doesn't diminish the fact that men and women are putting their lives in the line,that has to be respected.
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Post by bolders on Jul 31, 2020 22:30:07 GMT
The armed forces never start any wars, it's the politicians who do that. It's the armed forces role to be there to deter others attacking us, and to fight the battles the politicians have led us into. Do you think we should have told the Falklands "tough" when Argentina invaded them? It's a difficult decision. But again it was the politicians who created the problem by withdrawing forces from the area, which was an invitation for the Argentinian junta who were an unpopular government to invade South Georgia. There was a weak response by the UK which then led them to invade the Falklands. Regarding the award, I'm often critical of the way the club is run, so it is nice to say, "well done everyone involved". (Please note big John, I spelt led correctly, ) I was careful in my wording, I didn't say I don't support any and realistically the Falklands is one of those grey areas. I find it especially hard to take off my unbiased hat when considering it too because I'm aware our victory there got Thatcher her second term from what I gather. I want to be absolutely clear when I say I in no way blame soldiers, I'm incredibly sympathetic towards them and thing help for heroes etc are wonderful charities. Tickets for veterans, any sort of benefits and support for veterans I wholeheartedly encourage. My issues are twofold: -I hate it when war is glorified, I'm not mad about the club photo op with soldiers in uniform perched on a big metal killing machine, there needs to be a big message saying war is fucking awful. -The second is while soldiers are completely without blame, and the politicians deserve most of it, the military system needs to take a lot too. They recruit the young, the aimless, the desperate and this is in a job where you probably won't come back from your tour the same person and you might not come back at all. The notion of the army being a deterrent is all well and good but it's used aggressively, look at Iraq and Afghanistan and the horror we have endured and worse, created. You don’t come back from training the same as you went in, your normal self is stripped back and then you are rebuilt in to what is needed
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